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3 Conferences of 20 Schools Each With the PAC Being Divided by the B12 & B10:
Big 10:

California, Colorado, Oregon, Stanford, Washington

Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern, Wisconsin

Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Purdue

Duke, Maryland, North Carolina, Penn State, Virginia


Big 12:

Arizona, Arizona State, U.C.L.A., U.S.C., Utah

Iowa State, Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State

Baylor, Kansas State, Texas, T.C.U., Texas Tech

Louisville, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, West Virginia


SEC:

Kentucky, N.C. State, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech

Clemson, Florida, Florida State, Miami, South Carolina

Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Mississippi State

Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Missouri, Texas A&M


Out: Boston College, Oregon State, Rutgers, Wake Forest, Washington State


Those are 3 very well balanced conferences which are divisionally well grouped. Rivals may all be accounted for with 1 OOC or cross divisional game.


Obviously dropping some of the 5 I've dropped would be difficult but with the ACC and PAC essentially being absorbed 4 of them could be. So it would only take the Big 10 finding a reason to cut ties with Rutgers to be theoretically possible.

Of course there could be a way to avoid dropping those 5 by using them to create a 4th, but less competitive power conference:

Central Florida, East Carolina, Memphis, South Florida, Wake Forest

Boston College, Cincinnati, Connecticut, Rutgers, Temple

Boise State, Brigham Young, Oregon State, San Diego State, Washington State

Houston, Colorado State, Southern Methodist, Tulane, Tulsa


Now if you did that you would have a conference to create a buffer with the rest of the FBS. But whether you have just 3 well balanced conferences, or 3 well balanced conferences and a 4th buffer conference I think this kind of arrangement would be advantageous to the game. Practical that it could happen? No. But not bad as a concept. Besides there is no news to talk about.
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RE: 3 Conferences of 20 Schools Each With the PAC Being Divided by the B12 & B10:
Those are 3 very balanced leagues that preserve some great rivalries and matchups. I think they are balanced enough you could negotiate tv as one entity also.
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RE: 3 Conferences of 20 Schools Each With the PAC Being Divided by the B12 & B10:
(04-26-2018 09:05 PM)Win5002 Wrote:  Those are 3 very balanced leagues that preserve some great rivalries and matchups. I think they are balanced enough you could negotiate tv as one entity also.

Having a New England presence with Pitt and Syracuse along with rotating conference games in Texas and Los Angeles (even if USC were an annual game) should be quite the enticement for N.D. in that kind of lineup for the Big 12.

The Big 10 and SEC move into Virginia and North Carolina, the Big 10's academic emphasis is maintained and they get California, Oregon and Washington from the West. To accomplish that they let Nebraska return to the Big 12 and give up Rutgers. The SEC maintains itself but solidifies its hold on Florida, Georgia and South Carolina

And yes if ESPN and FOX split those conferences and converted the LHN into a B12N it would work quite well for all concerned. With the markets involved everyone should be able to pull 50 million plus so while a wash for Texas, or just a few million more than a wash they get to keep the region they want and the friends they want while picking up the market reach they've needed.

If you add a 4th conference as a buffer then 35 million per school would be enough to increase everyone's payout including Rutgers provided for the deal the Big 10 waives their remaining debt to that conference.
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RE: 3 Conferences of 20 Schools Each With the PAC Being Divided by the B12 & B10:
The XII becomes the hodge podge power conference. The Cali-4 market themselves as a package deal. Notre Dame remains independent. A tweener AAC with 24 schools emerges.

I would go divisionless with 3-5 permanent rivals:

B1G
California, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan St, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Ohio St, Oregon, Penn St, Purdue, Rutgers, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Washington, Wisconsin

SEC
Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Clemson, Duke, Florida, Florida St, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi St, Missouri, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt, Virginia

XII
Arizona, Arizona St, Baylor, Boston College, Colorado, Iowa St, Kansas, Kansas St, Miami, North Carolina St, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, TCU, Texas, Texas Tech, Utah, Virginia Tech, West Virginia

AAC
Air Force, Army, Boise St, BYU, Central Florida, Cincinnati, Colorado St, Connecticut, East Carolina, Houston, Louisville, Memphis, Navy, New Mexico, Oregon St, San Diego St, SMU, South Florida, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, UNLV, Wake Forest, Washington St
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RE: 3 Conferences of 20 Schools Each With the PAC Being Divided by the B12 & B10:
(05-08-2018 09:34 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  The XII becomes the hodge podge power conference. The Cali-4 market themselves as a package deal. Notre Dame remains independent. A tweener AAC with 24 schools emerges.

I would go divisionless with 3-5 permanent rivals:

B1G
California, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan St, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Ohio St, Oregon, Penn St, Purdue, Rutgers, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Washington, Wisconsin

SEC
Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Clemson, Duke, Florida, Florida St, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi St, Missouri, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt, Virginia

XII
Arizona, Arizona St, Baylor, Boston College, Colorado, Iowa St, Kansas, Kansas St, Miami, North Carolina St, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, TCU, Texas, Texas Tech, Utah, Virginia Tech, West Virginia

AAC
Air Force, Army, Boise St, BYU, Central Florida, Cincinnati, Colorado St, Connecticut, East Carolina, Houston, Louisville, Memphis, Navy, New Mexico, Oregon St, San Diego St, SMU, South Florida, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, UNLV, Wake Forest, Washington St

I can endorse this. SEC gets the schools they've always wanted, including GT returning to the fold. If large collections of programs are the future then the media contracts should reflect that. We could see the likes of Amazon getting the Big Ten, Disney the SEC, Netflix the AAC and maybe several splitting the XII or a combo of linear and digital. I'd rather have Cal than Kansas, anyway.
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