(04-30-2018 09:03 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(04-30-2018 07:04 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-29-2018 11:41 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(04-29-2018 10:37 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-29-2018 12:05 PM)IoncemetJonVoight Wrote:  DII had more Draft picks than their conference combined. Yikes.

SEC 53

ACC 46

Big Ten 32

Pac-12 30

Big 12 20

FCS 19

AAC 18

Conference USA 10

Mountain West 9

Independent 6

MAC 5

Division II 4

Sun Belt 3

Either you don't know how to count, or you're making stuff up. We had more than 3 and were tied with the MAC for amount of draft picks. We also have less members than the MAC and CUSA, so what do you expect? On top of that, most Sun Belt teams had young rosters this past season with fewer seniors than previous years, so obviously a less likely chance for draft picks this year.

Really poor job of trying to talk smack.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf...562237002/

Yeah, the author of this at USA Today can't count either. If you go and look at each round for yourself, we have 4... just as much as the MAC.

NMSU officially exited the Sun Belt on December 29th 2017. Technically they are an independent team now and that’s why all the publications will not give the Sun Belt credit for that pick.

That's the weird part. The NMSU player (Jaleel Scott) spent his whole career playing in the Sun Belt.

This whole thread is so sad

(04-29-2018 05:38 PM)ghostofclt Wrote:  

(04-29-2018 05:03 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  As the fan of a NFL team that spent their top two picks on players from UTSA and UCF, it’s been interesting to see some of the comments on the Saints message board. Both have been referred to as “small schools” with a “low level of competition.” And I’ve seen UTSA called a “d2 school” and a “sun belt school.” If you aren’t a fan of a G5 school, it really doesn’t matter. We’re all the same to everyone else.

clt says saints fans are not well regarded for their intellect.

Not debating the comment, just that it is amusing coming from someone who refers to himself/herself in 3rd person.

(04-30-2018 10:53 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  This whole thread is so sad

Agreed. I don't view draft numbers as a sign of inherent conference superiority. Not much of a correlation imo.

SEC will have the most busts too.

(04-30-2018 11:23 AM)BKTopper Wrote:  

(04-30-2018 10:53 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  This whole thread is so sad

Agreed. I don't view draft numbers as a sign of inherent conference superiority. Not much of a correlation imo.

see post #5....

(04-29-2018 05:38 PM)ghostofclt Wrote:  

(04-29-2018 05:03 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  As the fan of a NFL team that spent their top two picks on players from UTSA and UCF, it’s been interesting to see some of the comments on the Saints message board. Both have been referred to as “small schools” with a “low level of competition.” And I’ve seen UTSA called a “d2 school” and a “sun belt school.” If you aren’t a fan of a G5 school, it really doesn’t matter. We’re all the same to everyone else.

clt says saints fans are not well regarded for their intellect.

I bet most of the people in charlotte don’t know what conference Charlotte is in.

(04-30-2018 06:46 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(04-29-2018 05:38 PM)ghostofclt Wrote:  

(04-29-2018 05:03 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  As the fan of a NFL team that spent their top two picks on players from UTSA and UCF, it’s been interesting to see some of the comments on the Saints message board. Both have been referred to as “small schools” with a “low level of competition.” And I’ve seen UTSA called a “d2 school” and a “sun belt school.” If you aren’t a fan of a G5 school, it really doesn’t matter. We’re all the same to everyone else.

clt says saints fans are not well regarded for their intellect.

I bet most of the people in charlotte don’t know what conference Charlotte is in.

clt says they know.....they know

(04-29-2018 12:05 PM)IoncemetJonVoight Wrote:  DII had more Draft picks than their conference combined. Yikes.

SEC 53

ACC 46

Big Ten 32

Pac-12 30

Big 12 20

FCS 19

AAC 18

Conference USA 10

Mountain West 9

Independent 6

MAC 5

Division II 4

Sun Belt 3

This much reaching to make yourself seem superior has the opposite effect. If you have to tell people you're the king, you're not the king. -TL

People in the city of Charlotte can't tell you which division of the ACC various teams are in, much less which conference UNCC, ECU, App, etc. are in.

Pecking order in Charlotte:
- Panthers
- UNC-CH
- Duke
- NCSU
- South Carolina
- Clemson
- Hornets

G5 sports teams get the scraps around here.

(04-30-2018 06:46 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(04-29-2018 05:38 PM)ghostofclt Wrote:  

(04-29-2018 05:03 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  As the fan of a NFL team that spent their top two picks on players from UTSA and UCF, it’s been interesting to see some of the comments on the Saints message board. Both have been referred to as “small schools” with a “low level of competition.” And I’ve seen UTSA called a “d2 school” and a “sun belt school.” If you aren’t a fan of a G5 school, it really doesn’t matter. We’re all the same to everyone else.

clt says saints fans are not well regarded for their intellect.

I bet most of the people in charlotte don’t know what conference Charlotte is in.

I bet most people in Charlotte have never heard of La Tech.

(05-01-2018 09:14 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  People in the city of Charlotte can't tell you which division of the ACC various teams are in, much less which conference UNCC, ECU, App, etc. are in.

Pecking order in Charlotte:
- Panthers
- UNC-CH
- Duke
- NCSU
- South Carolina
- Clemson
- Hornets

G5 sports teams get the scraps around here.

This is way off. Fixed as below, for metro Charlotte:

- Panthers
- UNC-CH
- NCSU
- Hornets
- Charlotte
- South Carolina
- Clemson
- App State
- Duke
- All other colleges

Are you talking about alumni or discussions by the general public?

General public, no way Duke is below App and UNCC?

USC and Clemson get way better coverage than any NC G5 program as well.

You may be right about Hornets placement.

(04-30-2018 06:46 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(04-29-2018 05:38 PM)ghostofclt Wrote:  

(04-29-2018 05:03 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  As the fan of a NFL team that spent their top two picks on players from UTSA and UCF, it’s been interesting to see some of the comments on the Saints message board. Both have been referred to as “small schools” with a “low level of competition.” And I’ve seen UTSA called a “d2 school” and a “sun belt school.” If you aren’t a fan of a G5 school, it really doesn’t matter. We’re all the same to everyone else.

clt says saints fans are not well regarded for their intellect.

I bet most of the people in charlotte don’t know what conference Charlotte is in.

(05-01-2018 09:29 AM)PSCNiner Wrote:  

(04-30-2018 06:46 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(04-29-2018 05:38 PM)ghostofclt Wrote:  

(04-29-2018 05:03 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  As the fan of a NFL team that spent their top two picks on players from UTSA and UCF, it’s been interesting to see some of the comments on the Saints message board. Both have been referred to as “small schools” with a “low level of competition.” And I’ve seen UTSA called a “d2 school” and a “sun belt school.” If you aren’t a fan of a G5 school, it really doesn’t matter. We’re all the same to everyone else.

clt says saints fans are not well regarded for their intellect.

I bet most of the people in charlotte don’t know what conference Charlotte is in.

I bet most people in Charlotte have never heard of La Tech.

Well if they're panthers fans they just had a first round pick from Tech a couple years ago...so I doubt it...But I'll guarantee people in Louisiana don't know UNC Charlotte exists. I didn't until they joined CUSA.

CUSA is better than Sun Belt. I think the gap is much more narrow but my opinion is that the top level and reputation and performance of teams like Southern Miss, La Tech, and Marshall in football and WKU, MTSU and UAB in basketball are the main reasons. Even though this may vary a little from year to year, it is still the case.

I think the rest of the teams in the respective sports and conferences are closer and now that the SB has only 10 teams, this may give them an edge at the bottom of the conferences.

At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter which conference each respective team is in. The team's individual success outweighs the conference affiliation. Does anybody think San Jose is better than their team just because they are in the MWC? Boise alone has more clout than Boise from the MWC.

It's like when Arkansas and Vanderbilt fans chant for SEC football! It's a Loser move.

(05-01-2018 11:52 AM)Rik Flair Wrote:  CUSA is better than Sun Belt. I think the gap is much more narrow but my opinion is that the top level and reputation and performance of teams like Southern Miss, La Tech, and Marshall in football and WKU, MTSU and UAB in basketball are the main reasons. Even though this may vary a little from year to year, it is still the case.

I think the rest of the teams in the respective sports and conferences are closer and now that the SB has only 10 teams, this may give them an edge at the bottom of the conferences.

At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter which conference each respective team is in. The team's individual success outweighs the conference affiliation. Does anybody think San Jose is better than their team just because they are in the MWC? Boise alone has more clout than Boise from the MWC.

It's like when Arkansas and Vanderbilt fans chant for SEC football! It's a Loser move.

Performance really doesn't matter to anyone except for the fans of the school that performs well. It's all about money and neither conference has any so it's just sad man. The teams in CUSA that invest in themselves will have potential to go to the AAC but what does that really get you and if a school over-leverages themselves, watch out or you are an FCS playoff participant waiting to happen. For those that can think objectively, the writing is on the wall for the future of almost all teams in the G5. Maybe all of them.

(05-01-2018 09:07 AM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(04-29-2018 12:05 PM)IoncemetJonVoight Wrote:  DII had more Draft picks than their conference combined. Yikes.

SEC 53

ACC 46

Big Ten 32

Pac-12 30

Big 12 20

FCS 19

AAC 18

Conference USA 10

Mountain West 9

Independent 6

MAC 5

Division II 4

Sun Belt 3

This much reaching to make yourself seem superior has the opposite effect. If you have to tell people you're the king, you're not the king. -TL

Sort of like you guys tell people you’re the University of Louisiana when you’re actually the university of Louisiana at Lafayette.

clt’s official list of sports in Charlotte

- Panthers
- school where new Charlotte resident attended
-UNC CHeat mbb after a win
- ncsU and Charlotte
- hornets when lebron or curry is in town
- nascar
- appy and ezu

(05-01-2018 12:27 PM)goldeneagle21 Wrote:  

(05-01-2018 11:52 AM)Rik Flair Wrote:  CUSA is better than Sun Belt. I think the gap is much more narrow but my opinion is that the top level and reputation and performance of teams like Southern Miss, La Tech, and Marshall in football and WKU, MTSU and UAB in basketball are the main reasons. Even though this may vary a little from year to year, it is still the case.

I think the rest of the teams in the respective sports and conferences are closer and now that the SB has only 10 teams, this may give them an edge at the bottom of the conferences.

At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter which conference each respective team is in. The team's individual success outweighs the conference affiliation. Does anybody think San Jose is better than their team just because they are in the MWC? Boise alone has more clout than Boise from the MWC.

It's like when Arkansas and Vanderbilt fans chant for SEC football! It's a Loser move.

Performance really doesn't matter to anyone except for the fans of the school that performs well. It's all about money and neither conference has any so it's just sad man. The teams in CUSA that invest in themselves will have potential to go to the AAC but what does that really get you and if a school over-leverages themselves, watch out or you are an FCS playoff participant waiting to happen. For those that can think objectively, the writing is on the wall for the future of almost all teams in the G5. Maybe all of them.

To some extent, I disagree. Yes the writing is on the wall for the G5. It has been since the days of DI and DI-A. The big money conferences are always going to try and exclude the lower funded conferences. But as long as we still compete at the highest level of college football, we have opportunities to grow into something more.

You may think C-USA universities are investing to move to the AAC, but I would argue that that is short sighted. We have a good collection of programs already. The universities that are investing in their programs will likely emerge as the conference flagships and often beat those AAC programs you think we wish to join. I don't want to join the AAC. I want C-USA to elevate our programs and challenge them as the best among the G5.

(05-01-2018 06:24 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(05-01-2018 12:27 PM)goldeneagle21 Wrote:  

(05-01-2018 11:52 AM)Rik Flair Wrote:  CUSA is better than Sun Belt. I think the gap is much more narrow but my opinion is that the top level and reputation and performance of teams like Southern Miss, La Tech, and Marshall in football and WKU, MTSU and UAB in basketball are the main reasons. Even though this may vary a little from year to year, it is still the case.

I think the rest of the teams in the respective sports and conferences are closer and now that the SB has only 10 teams, this may give them an edge at the bottom of the conferences.

At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter which conference each respective team is in. The team's individual success outweighs the conference affiliation. Does anybody think San Jose is better than their team just because they are in the MWC? Boise alone has more clout than Boise from the MWC.

It's like when Arkansas and Vanderbilt fans chant for SEC football! It's a Loser move.

Performance really doesn't matter to anyone except for the fans of the school that performs well. It's all about money and neither conference has any so it's just sad man. The teams in CUSA that invest in themselves will have potential to go to the AAC but what does that really get you and if a school over-leverages themselves, watch out or you are an FCS playoff participant waiting to happen. For those that can think objectively, the writing is on the wall for the future of almost all teams in the G5. Maybe all of them.

To some extent, I disagree. Yes the writing is on the wall for the G5. It has been since the days of DI and DI-A. The big money conferences are always going to try and exclude the lower funded conferences. But as long as we still compete at the highest level of college football, we have opportunities to grow into something more.

You may think C-USA universities are investing to move to the AAC, but I would argue that that is short sighted. We have a good collection of programs already. The universities that are investing in their programs will likely emerge as the conference flagships and often beat those AAC programs you think we wish to join. I don't want to join the AAC. I want C-USA to elevate our programs and challenge them as the best among the G5.

Good Post, thats already been done consistently. See Bowl games