(05-07-2018 09:09 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  As long as you only lose to UCF, I hope FAU is very successful.

If FAU goes undefeated, Kiffen will guaranteed be gone.

The game this year should be great! Stand alone Friday night ESPN with two teams who have made some of the most headlines last year.

If we go undefeated he probably goes, but if you read that ESPN article I don’t don’t think he will just jump to any program. He does really like it here and who wouldn’t.

If he does leave with the buyout and momentum we should pay another coach around 1milion. A lot of good coaches would jump at program in South Florida for that price.

(05-07-2018 11:15 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 10:25 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  USM is still mad because we took their DC. The fans are in denial but obviously FAU is a step up from USM.

Just money

You say that like it’s a small thing.

Yes, if Kiffin leaves FAU, it is not going to be Purdue or Wake Forest, that's for sure. If FAU goes 11-3 or better in 2018, he will be fielding offers from some interesting programs. I wonder if we would be able to remain in Boca Raton. I hope he does until around 2020 but I am an FAU homer.

(05-08-2018 07:29 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  Yes, if Kiffin leaves FAU, it is not going to be Purdue or Wake Forest, that's for sure. If FAU goes 11-3 or better in 2018, he will be fielding offers from some interesting programs. I wonder if we would be able to remain in Boca Raton. I hope he does until around 2020 but I am an FAU homer.

Don't you think he would leave for the money alone? I know I would leave my current job for double or triple my current salary.

(05-08-2018 05:11 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 11:15 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 10:25 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  USM is still mad because we took their DC. The fans are in denial but obviously FAU is a step up from USM.

Just money

You say that like it’s a small thing.

Liberty has more money than FAU, "step up"?

What is FAUs athletic budget anyway?

(05-08-2018 08:07 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 05:11 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 11:15 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 10:25 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  USM is still mad because we took their DC. The fans are in denial but obviously FAU is a step up from USM.

Just money

You say that like it’s a small thing.

Liberty has more money than FAU, "step up"?

Yea, Libery having tons of money matters. They paid their way into D-1 football and many home games.
They have other issues working against them, but it all factors in.

Many don’t give FAU an ounce of credit for anything and if they do it’s congrats with a “but”.

People just don’t want to admit we pay out coaches the highest, have 1 or 2 stadium in the league a brand new football facility being built, in the middle of the best recruiting ground in the country and in a area where love to live.

(05-08-2018 08:31 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 08:07 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 05:11 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 11:15 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 10:25 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  USM is still mad because we took their DC. The fans are in denial but obviously FAU is a step up from USM.

Just money

You say that like it’s a small thing.

Liberty has more money than FAU, "step up"?

Yea, Libery having tons of money matters. They paid their way into D-1 football and many home games.
They have other issues working against them, but it all factors in.

Many don’t give FAU an ounce of credit for anything and if they do it’s congrats with a “but”.

People just don’t want to admit we pay out coaches the highest, have 1 or 2 stadium in the league a brand new football facility being built, in the middle of the best recruiting ground in the country and in a area where love to live.

So do you have 1 or 2 stadium?

(05-08-2018 08:31 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 08:07 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 05:11 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 11:15 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 10:25 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  USM is still mad because we took their DC. The fans are in denial but obviously FAU is a step up from USM.

Just money

You say that like it’s a small thing.

Liberty has more money than FAU, "step up"?

Yea, Libery having tons of money matters. They paid their way into D-1 football and many home games.
They have other issues working against them, but it all factors in.

Many don’t give FAU an ounce of credit for anything and if they do it’s congrats with a “but”.

People just don’t want to admit we pay out coaches the highest, have 1 or 2 stadium in the league a brand new football facility being built, in the middle of the best recruiting ground in the country and in a area where love to live.

What do you mean by best stadium in the conference? Your stadium looks very similar to UCF's stadium and their stadium is like an erector set. I have been to their stadium 3 times. New doesn't mean best. It doesn't look like y'all used any concrete at all.

(05-07-2018 08:16 PM)MadEagle Wrote:  

(05-03-2018 12:16 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Kiffin can coach circles around ANY OTHER COACH in this conference. He ran through this conference with a team that was just plain awful in previous seasons. The players didn't suddenly become more talented......they just became well-coached. FAU wasn't the most talented team in the conference and they won't be this year either. But good coaching and knowing how to use players based on their respective skill sets is often paramount to pure talent, especially in a conference like this. The talent gap among teams in this conference is not large......it isn't like say......Alabama and Vanderbilt or Clemson and Wake Forest. The gap in pure talent between say......UTEP and FAU is not nearly as wide as that of Alabama and Vanderbilt. The main difference is coaching. UTEP hasn't had a competent football coach in years and it shows. Before Kiffin, FAU was similar.

A repeat conference championship is all but inevitable for FAU. He makes other coaches look completely clueless.

I agree Kiffin is a good coach I think you forgetting his offensive coordinator this year wasn't to shabby either. Kendal Briles can flat out coach too. Even tho Art turned into a ****** CEO of a college football program his ability to coach X's and O's have never been questioned. And he passed alot of that knowledge to Kendal

Very good posts. Talent gap is not that wide in this conference and certainly FAU is not the most talented but well coached.

(05-08-2018 09:10 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 08:31 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 08:07 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 05:11 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 11:15 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Just money

You say that like it’s a small thing.

Liberty has more money than FAU, "step up"?

Yea, Libery having tons of money matters. They paid their way into D-1 football and many home games.
They have other issues working against them, but it all factors in.

Many don’t give FAU an ounce of credit for anything and if they do it’s congrats with a “but”.

People just don’t want to admit we pay out coaches the highest, have 1 or 2 stadium in the league a brand new football facility being built, in the middle of the best recruiting ground in the country and in a area where love to live.

What do you mean by best stadium in the conference? Your stadium looks very similar to UCF's stadium and their stadium is like an erector set. I have been to their stadium 3 times. New doesn't mean best. It doesn't look like y'all used any concrete at all.

OK well you obviously have not been there.

Lol, a team full of that much talent doesn’t lose to Navy by 40 lol. You can see as the season progressed and how much FAU offense started rolling that it was coaching. Kiffin took chances, going for it on 4th Downs, trick plays, anything to win attitude. He jump on teams early and that’s all it takes in this conference. The talent gap is not that wide in this conference and Kiffin has done more with less than any other coach in this conference.

I would argue that Holtz has done less with more considering Tech has had 11 players drafted over the last few years including 1st rounder and several 3rd and 4th rounders

(05-08-2018 09:10 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 08:16 PM)MadEagle Wrote:  

(05-03-2018 12:16 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Kiffin can coach circles around ANY OTHER COACH in this conference. He ran through this conference with a team that was just plain awful in previous seasons. The players didn't suddenly become more talented......they just became well-coached. FAU wasn't the most talented team in the conference and they won't be this year either. But good coaching and knowing how to use players based on their respective skill sets is often paramount to pure talent, especially in a conference like this. The talent gap among teams in this conference is not large......it isn't like say......Alabama and Vanderbilt or Clemson and Wake Forest. The gap in pure talent between say......UTEP and FAU is not nearly as wide as that of Alabama and Vanderbilt. The main difference is coaching. UTEP hasn't had a competent football coach in years and it shows. Before Kiffin, FAU was similar.

A repeat conference championship is all but inevitable for FAU. He makes other coaches look completely clueless.

I agree Kiffin is a good coach I think you forgetting his offensive coordinator this year wasn't to shabby either. Kendal Briles can flat out coach too. Even tho Art turned into a ****** CEO of a college football program his ability to coach X's and O's have never been questioned. And he passed alot of that knowledge to Kendal

Very good posts. Talent gap is not that wide in this conference and certainly FAU is not the most talented but well coached.

We are vastly more talented than you. We beat you by 25 at your house with three starting seniors. That doesn't happen because we have some cute plays. The fact you do not see that shows you do not know very much about football.
FAU will have 4-5 guys drafted next year. Motor, Lewis, Azeez ,Snyder, Bain
But yea it's all just smoke an mirrors.

(05-08-2018 09:18 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 09:10 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 08:31 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 08:07 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 05:11 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  You say that like it’s a small thing.

Liberty has more money than FAU, "step up"?

Yea, Libery having tons of money matters. They paid their way into D-1 football and many home games.
They have other issues working against them, but it all factors in.

Many don’t give FAU an ounce of credit for anything and if they do it’s congrats with a “but”.

People just don’t want to admit we pay out coaches the highest, have 1 or 2 stadium in the league a brand new football facility being built, in the middle of the best recruiting ground in the country and in a area where love to live.

What do you mean by best stadium in the conference? Your stadium looks very similar to UCF's stadium and their stadium is like an erector set. I have been to their stadium 3 times. New doesn't mean best. It doesn't look like y'all used any concrete at all.

OK well you obviously have not been there.

I can look at the pictures online. Your stadium was built exactly like UCF's stadium. FAU does have a new on campus stadium now, but it definitely isn't one of the top 5 stadiums in this conference.

(05-08-2018 08:31 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 08:07 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 05:11 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 11:15 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 10:25 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  USM is still mad because we took their DC. The fans are in denial but obviously FAU is a step up from USM.

Just money

You say that like it’s a small thing.

Liberty has more money than FAU, "step up"?

Yea, Libery having tons of money matters. They paid their way into D-1 football and many home games.
They have other issues working against them, but it all factors in.

Many don’t give FAU an ounce of credit for anything and if they do it’s congrats with a “but”.

People just don’t want to admit we pay out coaches the highest, have 1 or 2 stadium in the league a brand new football facility being built, in the middle of the best recruiting ground in the country and in a area where love to live.

So just to be clear, FAU whose budget is ~20% higher than USM's is "obviously a step up", but when it comes to Liberty, who has far deeper pockets, they have "other issues working against them" and forgive me as I'm just trying to follow your logic, that's not "obviously a step up" though?

(05-08-2018 09:23 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 09:18 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 09:10 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 08:31 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 08:07 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Liberty has more money than FAU, "step up"?

Yea, Libery having tons of money matters. They paid their way into D-1 football and many home games.
They have other issues working against them, but it all factors in.

Many don’t give FAU an ounce of credit for anything and if they do it’s congrats with a “but”.

People just don’t want to admit we pay out coaches the highest, have 1 or 2 stadium in the league a brand new football facility being built, in the middle of the best recruiting ground in the country and in a area where love to live.

What do you mean by best stadium in the conference? Your stadium looks very similar to UCF's stadium and their stadium is like an erector set. I have been to their stadium 3 times. New doesn't mean best. It doesn't look like y'all used any concrete at all.

OK well you obviously have not been there.

I can look at the pictures online. Your stadium was built exactly like UCF's stadium. FAU does have a new on campus stadium now, but it definitely isn't one of the top 5 stadiums in this conference.

Errr... what?

Name five better.

(05-08-2018 09:19 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Lol, a team full of that much talent doesn’t lose to Navy by 40 lol. You can see as the season progressed and how much FAU offense started rolling that it was coaching. Kiffin took chances, going for it on 4th Downs, trick plays, anything to win attitude. He jump on teams early and that’s all it takes in this conference. The talent gap is not that wide in this conference and Kiffin has done more with less than any other coach in this conference.

I would argue that Holtz has done less with more considering Tech has had 11 players drafted over the last few years including 1st rounder and several 3rd and 4th rounders

the Navy game is such sad example.
FAU had 35 new players from spring to fall, no center and rotation at QB.

You lead the league in picks and sacks without being talented.
We beat the number 2 team in the conference by a combined 52 points against a pretty good coach.
FAU was winning games throwing less than 15 passes because we were just bulldozing people

Again go look at the recruiting rankings over that last few years.
Is the talent gap Vandy-Bama? No, but you are acting like this a fluke.

We are better in every way shape a form.

(05-08-2018 09:23 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 09:10 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 08:16 PM)MadEagle Wrote:  

(05-03-2018 12:16 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Kiffin can coach circles around ANY OTHER COACH in this conference. He ran through this conference with a team that was just plain awful in previous seasons. The players didn't suddenly become more talented......they just became well-coached. FAU wasn't the most talented team in the conference and they won't be this year either. But good coaching and knowing how to use players based on their respective skill sets is often paramount to pure talent, especially in a conference like this. The talent gap among teams in this conference is not large......it isn't like say......Alabama and Vanderbilt or Clemson and Wake Forest. The gap in pure talent between say......UTEP and FAU is not nearly as wide as that of Alabama and Vanderbilt. The main difference is coaching. UTEP hasn't had a competent football coach in years and it shows. Before Kiffin, FAU was similar.

A repeat conference championship is all but inevitable for FAU. He makes other coaches look completely clueless.

I agree Kiffin is a good coach I think you forgetting his offensive coordinator this year wasn't to shabby either. Kendal Briles can flat out coach too. Even tho Art turned into a ****** CEO of a college football program his ability to coach X's and O's have never been questioned. And he passed alot of that knowledge to Kendal

Very good posts. Talent gap is not that wide in this conference and certainly FAU is not the most talented but well coached.

We are vastly more talented than you. We beat you by 25 at your house with three starting seniors. That doesn't happen because we have some cute plays. The fact you do not see that shows you do not know very much about football.
FAU will have 4-5 guys drafted next year. Motor, Lewis, Azeez ,Snyder, Bain
But yea it's all just smoke an mirrors.

Ok, just to let you know Tech has had 11 NFL draft picks while FAU has had 3 NFL draft picks since we started CUSA together, lol

(05-08-2018 09:31 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 08:31 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 08:07 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 05:11 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 11:15 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Just money

You say that like it’s a small thing.

Liberty has more money than FAU, "step up"?

Yea, Libery having tons of money matters. They paid their way into D-1 football and many home games.
They have other issues working against them, but it all factors in.

Many don’t give FAU an ounce of credit for anything and if they do it’s congrats with a “but”.

People just don’t want to admit we pay out coaches the highest, have 1 or 2 stadium in the league a brand new football facility being built, in the middle of the best recruiting ground in the country and in a area where love to live.

So just to be clear, FAU whose budget is ~20% higher than USM's is "obviously a step up", but when it comes to Liberty, who has far deeper pockets, they have "other issues working against them" and forgive me as I'm just trying to follow your logic, that's not "obviously a step up" though?

Liberty had had issues finding conferences due to many of their social
standings. It makes it a much different place to recruit.

(05-08-2018 09:35 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 09:19 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Lol, a team full of that much talent doesn’t lose to Navy by 40 lol. You can see as the season progressed and how much FAU offense started rolling that it was coaching. Kiffin took chances, going for it on 4th Downs, trick plays, anything to win attitude. He jump on teams early and that’s all it takes in this conference. The talent gap is not that wide in this conference and Kiffin has done more with less than any other coach in this conference.

I would argue that Holtz has done less with more considering Tech has had 11 players drafted over the last few years including 1st rounder and several 3rd and 4th rounders

the Navy game is such sad example.
FAU had 35 new players from spring to fall, no center and rotation at QB.

You lead the league in picks and sacks without being talented.
We beat the number 2 team in the conference by a combined 52 points against a pretty good coach.
FAU was winning games throwing less than 15 passes because we were just bulldozing people

Again go look at the recruiting rankings over that last few years.
Is the talent gap Vandy-Bama? No, but you are acting like this a fluke.

We are better in every way shape a form.

These seem like contradicting ideas to me...