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(05-12-2018 09:30 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(05-11-2018 04:22 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Trump is likely about to push for a new Temple in Jerusalem.
(05-12-2018 07:13 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I predict that neither President Trump not any member of his family or Administration is going to say one word about the construction of a new Temple in Jerusalem or anywhere else

Two contradictory forecasts. I will hopefully return to this thread in a few weeks or months and we will see how things are going.



Well, have fun playing "gotcha" my friend. 04-cheers

I have no interest in that no matter what happens in the end.

I never promised a public statement on anything. Things can be pushed politically behind the scenes or publically. As a bible believer, I already understand the big peace deal will be confirmed vis the antichrist/final one world leader. I do not believe that person is Donald Trump. But he does seem to be bringing these issues to a head like no other POTUS.
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(05-11-2018 10:28 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  This can't possibly be real........................


Cue Allstate (?) Ad.

Oh, it’s happening sweetheart, it’s happening.

I know the Muslim brotherhood and their former pom pom wavers will object, but let’s please get behind and live on the side of civilized people’s. Can we?

Thx.
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(05-13-2018 01:38 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(05-12-2018 09:30 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(05-11-2018 04:22 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Trump is likely about to push for a new Temple in Jerusalem.
(05-12-2018 07:13 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I predict that neither President Trump not any member of his family or Administration is going to say one word about the construction of a new Temple in Jerusalem or anywhere else

Two contradictory forecasts. I will hopefully return to this thread in a few weeks or months and we will see how things are going.



Well, have fun playing "gotcha" my friend. :cheers:

I have no interest in that no matter what happens in the end.

I never promised a public statement on anything. Things can be pushed politically behind the scenes or publically.
Nor did I promise the contents of a “final peace deal over Jerusalem”. Yet you immediately went there with loaded questions.

As a Bible-believer, I already understand that God will work these things out in His own way and in His own time. For now, God has revealed some things to us and withheld some things from us. We “see through a glass darkly,” to coin a phrase.

I repeat my earlier claim that President Trump is not going to push for construction of a new Temple in Jerusalem. I think Trump understands that is not his place and not his role to get involved in an issue like that. There is certainly no Biblical prophecy to say otherwise. But I agree with ericsrevenge76 that Trump is not “the antichrist/one-world leader”. So I think he is correct about that.
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I can see this as one of those infomercials as a commentating coingvthat has about 3 dollars worth of a electro plating gold on it and sell it to Trumpkins for 49.99. Can definitly see that.
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(05-13-2018 08:42 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I can see this as one of those infomercials as a commentating coingvthat has about 3 dollars worth of a electro plating gold on it and sell it to Trumpkins for 49.99. Can definitly see that.

Just curious but gotta ask. Why with all of these great threads to bash Trump did you only comment here? I know you must have read the others, why don’t we have your wise point of view on any of them?
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Oh brother, where are you? We need an opposing view. Join in the conversation.
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He should convert and move to Israel.
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This is NOT like the zero Euro note commemorating Marx birthday.
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(05-13-2018 06:33 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(05-13-2018 01:38 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(05-12-2018 09:30 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(05-11-2018 04:22 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Trump is likely about to push for a new Temple in Jerusalem.
(05-12-2018 07:13 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I predict that neither President Trump not any member of his family or Administration is going to say one word about the construction of a new Temple in Jerusalem or anywhere else

Two contradictory forecasts. I will hopefully return to this thread in a few weeks or months and we will see how things are going.



Well, have fun playing "gotcha" my friend. 04-cheers

I have no interest in that no matter what happens in the end.

I never promised a public statement on anything. Things can be pushed politically behind the scenes or publically.
Nor did I promise the contents of a “final peace deal over Jerusalem”. Yet you immediately went there with loaded questions.

As a Bible-believer, I already understand that God will work these things out in His own way and in His own time. For now, God has revealed some things to us and withheld some things from us. We “see through a glass darkly,” to coin a phrase.

I repeat my earlier claim that President Trump is not going to push for construction of a new Temple in Jerusalem. I think Trump understands that is not his place and not his role to get involved in an issue like that. There is certainly no Biblical prophecy to say otherwise. But I agree with ericsrevenge76 that Trump is not “the antichrist/one-world leader”. So I think he is correct about that.



He has already gotten directly involved by proclaiming Jerusalem the eternal capital of Israel and moving our Embassy there. That is not just a political move, its a religious move and its a big one.

There is no such thing as a peace deal over Jerusalem without an agreement for the Jews to build or have a specific place to build a temple. The Jews are NOT going to willingly further divide up Jerusalem in a major peace deal and STILL not be allowed to have a temple. Its simply not going to be possible for Trump to negotiate ANYTHING without that key issue.

The bible also tells us clearly that the Land WILL be further divided up in the end times. I really don't understand how you can say pointing these things out are "loaded" questions. Its simply an acknowledgement of the reality of the situation.

I think we also disagree over your use of "now we see through a glass darkly". That passage is not in the context of understanding end time prophecies, its in the context of understanding spiritual gifts in the church age before the return of Christ. Multiple places in the bible tell us the end time prophecies would be understood much more clearly in the end times.
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If memory serves, one of the key reasons for the coin is to inspire Jewish men to donate for the rebuilding of the temple.

They did not just put the coin out for fun, they want Trump to be the POTUS who politically backs a rebuilding of the Temple, just as Cyrus did 2500+ years ago.

That is why its Trump and Cyrus on the coin.
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Previous Presidents have said they were going to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem, but none did. While a candidate Trump also said he would move. President Trump kept his campaign promise unlike former Presidents and he did it. The man keeps his campaign promises.
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https://www.charismanews.com/world/70549...nniversary


A coin minted to celebrate Israel's 70th birthday has Donald Trump's profile superimposed over King Cyrus on one side and the third temple on the other. It's called the temple coin.

"The fact that Orthodox Jews wanted to honor Trump for recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and they minted this coin—a one-half silver shekel—is as if they are confirming this word given by Christians as valid," says Warren Marcus.

"The great significance is that on one side the coin has the image of Cyrus and Trump. On the other side it has the image of the third temple yet to be built. The one half-silver shekel during the time of the temple was required to be paid as an offering by each male of a Jewish household during Yom Kippur (the Day of Atonement) that was earmarked for the upkeep of the holy temple! It is the hope of the Orthodox Jews who minted this coin that this coin will be actually used to pay that offering again for the upkeep of the third temple," Marcus says.
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Gotta say, even as an old guy who's done plenty of lernin', I get something new here almost every day.

Good read. Hope the conversation here continues.

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(05-11-2018 04:50 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The 70 years is interesting as well. It was at the 70 year mark when Cyrus gave the decree to let the Israelites return to the land from Babylon and commissioned the rebuilding of the temple.

Monday is the 70th anniversary of the rebirth of modern Israel, the same day we are opening the embassy in Jerusalem ending a 70-year protest of the whole world over it.

...and in keeping with the Bible's use of the number 7 it is astounding, to say the least.
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(05-12-2018 12:06 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(05-12-2018 07:13 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I predict that neither President Trump not any member of his family or Administration is going to say one word about the construction of a new Temple in Jerusalem or anywhere else


why?

How can you have a peace deal over Jerusalem with no mention of a Jewish Temple? You think they are going to totally ignore the most central and key issue of the city between Muslims and Jews? Are you aware of the current situation over the old temple mount and the Mulsim Temple sitting there? You think the Jews are going to take a deal that allows a Muslim temple in the middle of Jerusalem, but they get no temple anywhere?

How does that make any sense at all?

Excavations have proven that the Temple is not where the Dome of the Mount is right now. It's lower and to the right or left of it. So right now as it stands there is nothing that can prevent the building of the 3 (?) Temple. As a matter of fact some of the stones are being made in anticipation of where it will be. All they will need is the Red Calf or whatever animals for sacrifice is needed. Remember that it has to be an animal without blemish (like Jesus was).
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(05-14-2018 05:08 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  
(05-12-2018 12:06 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(05-12-2018 07:13 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I predict that neither President Trump not any member of his family or Administration is going to say one word about the construction of a new Temple in Jerusalem or anywhere else


why?

How can you have a peace deal over Jerusalem with no mention of a Jewish Temple? You think they are going to totally ignore the most central and key issue of the city between Muslims and Jews? Are you aware of the current situation over the old temple mount and the Mulsim Temple sitting there? You think the Jews are going to take a deal that allows a Muslim temple in the middle of Jerusalem, but they get no temple anywhere?

How does that make any sense at all?

Excavations have proven that the Temple is not where the Dome of the Mount is right now. It's lower and to the right or left of it. So right now as it stands there is nothing that can prevent the building of the 3 (?) Temple. As a matter of fact some of the stones are being made in anticipation of where it will be. All they will need is the Red Calf or whatever animals for sacrifice is needed. Remember that it has to be an animal without blemish (like Jesus was).


Yep

Glad to see you did your homework here too. 04-cheers

They can begin building the temple at any point, we now know the location is not where the Muslim Dome sits. The Dome does not have to go anywhere or play a role at all.

It will be a religious and political push that will trigger the construction, and that would seem to require the backing of a strong POTUS with more guts than any of his predecessors.

Sounds right up Trumps alley imo.
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Drumpf is the anti christ. The false prophet
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(05-14-2018 05:29 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Drumpf is the anti christ. The false prophet

you need one of these

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(05-13-2018 12:15 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  He should convert and move to Israel.

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