Just a guess, but think NT wants to get their facilities for other sports in order before they add baseball. Apogee is old news now, but it was sorely needed. The Super Pit has had some nice and needed improvements the past few years. A new track and field facility is currently being built; and construction of the IPF will begin later this year. A lot of projects for sure.

My hope is that UNT turns its attention to starting a baseball program. I think the planning process (fundraising, etc.) will begin later this year or early next year. The big thing is building a stadium and hiring and paying coaches before the first pitch is thrown. It will happen but will be on UNT’s timeline.

I agree that UNT should add baseball. It sounds like they said it would happen, but haven't moved. It's a major men's sport. As far as the investments into football are concerned, it always helps. Build it up as much as possible.

(05-15-2018 10:59 PM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 08:18 AM)NorthTexan95 Wrote:  Why does UNT not have baseball? Obviously it wasn't a requirement when we joined CUSA. We don't have baseball because since joining the conference we have a new President and new Athletic Director and priorities changed.

Considering that football and men's bball are the real needle movers when it comes to league popularity and money, I think CUSA would rather UNT take care of those sports rather than field a baseball team.

Obviously, you are not aware of the contingency to start baseball as a condition of membership to join the conference. FACT. You guys reneged and fortunately for UNT we have a weak commissioner that didn't put any teeth to any penalties. The conference didn't want associate members. You have a competitive advantage. No argument can be made to say you don't.

Truth

This is what should happen, CUSA should develop some backbone and require UNT to follow through on their commitment. Or make them an associate member. Then their title IX sports like soccer, tennis can find a home in another conference. Then UNT will announce that baseball team is slated to start.... wait that is already happened in 2014

(05-16-2018 11:35 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 10:59 PM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 08:18 AM)NorthTexan95 Wrote:  Why does UNT not have baseball? Obviously it wasn't a requirement when we joined CUSA. We don't have baseball because since joining the conference we have a new President and new Athletic Director and priorities changed.

Considering that football and men's bball are the real needle movers when it comes to league popularity and money, I think CUSA would rather UNT take care of those sports rather than field a baseball team.

Obviously, you are not aware of the contingency to start baseball as a condition of membership to join the conference. FACT. You guys reneged and fortunately for UNT we have a weak commissioner that didn't put any teeth to any penalties. The conference didn't want associate members. You have a competitive advantage. No argument can be made to say you don't.

Truth

This is what should happen, CUSA should develop some backbone and require UNT to follow through on their commitment. Or make them an associate member. Then their title IX sports like soccer, tennis can find a home in another conference. Then UNT will announce that baseball team is slated to start.... wait that is already happened in 2014

Not sure why La Tech fans believe that NT ever committed to CUSA to establish a baseball program. With all the power that La Tech has, why not force the issue and demand that all members play baseball and while you are at it mandate women's rowing.

I have always admired the La Tech program for the success they have with limited resources, but this thread is just coming across as silly.

Each University has control over their own program and how they spend their money within the NCAA and CUSA rules. If La Tech is so disadvantaged then the answer is simple, just drop baseball: problem solved.

(05-16-2018 12:21 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  

(05-16-2018 11:35 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 10:59 PM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 08:18 AM)NorthTexan95 Wrote:  Why does UNT not have baseball? Obviously it wasn't a requirement when we joined CUSA. We don't have baseball because since joining the conference we have a new President and new Athletic Director and priorities changed.

Considering that football and men's bball are the real needle movers when it comes to league popularity and money, I think CUSA would rather UNT take care of those sports rather than field a baseball team.

Obviously, you are not aware of the contingency to start baseball as a condition of membership to join the conference. FACT. You guys reneged and fortunately for UNT we have a weak commissioner that didn't put any teeth to any penalties. The conference didn't want associate members. You have a competitive advantage. No argument can be made to say you don't.

Truth

This is what should happen, CUSA should develop some backbone and require UNT to follow through on their commitment. Or make them an associate member. Then their title IX sports like soccer, tennis can find a home in another conference. Then UNT will announce that baseball team is slated to start.... wait that is already happened in 2014

Not sure why La Tech fans believe that NT ever committed to CUSA to establish a baseball program. With all the power that La Tech has, why not force the issue and demand that all members play baseball and while you are at it mandate women's rowing.

I have always admired the La Tech program for the success they have with limited resources, but this thread is just coming across as silly.

Each University has control over their own program and how they spend their money within the NCAA and CUSA rules. If La Tech is so disadvantaged then the answer is simple, just drop baseball: problem solved.

Because that was what was told to leadership of CUSA schools, that is a fact. As you can see UNT sought funding for a baseball team from UNT regents in September of 2012 and in 2013 announce the committment to start a baseball team. The other schools that joined were under the impression that UNT was committed to starting a baseball team. Follow through on your commitments that is all.

There is nothing "silly or dumbest thing ever or you are a fool" about following through on committments. Sorry even in this day and age, you should still follow through on committments.


https://www.ntdaily.com/a-unt-baseball-t...b-players/


https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college...be-earlier

(05-16-2018 12:58 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(05-16-2018 12:21 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  

(05-16-2018 11:35 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 10:59 PM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 08:18 AM)NorthTexan95 Wrote:  Why does UNT not have baseball? Obviously it wasn't a requirement when we joined CUSA. We don't have baseball because since joining the conference we have a new President and new Athletic Director and priorities changed.

Considering that football and men's bball are the real needle movers when it comes to league popularity and money, I think CUSA would rather UNT take care of those sports rather than field a baseball team.

Obviously, you are not aware of the contingency to start baseball as a condition of membership to join the conference. FACT. You guys reneged and fortunately for UNT we have a weak commissioner that didn't put any teeth to any penalties. The conference didn't want associate members. You have a competitive advantage. No argument can be made to say you don't.

Truth

This is what should happen, CUSA should develop some backbone and require UNT to follow through on their commitment. Or make them an associate member. Then their title IX sports like soccer, tennis can find a home in another conference. Then UNT will announce that baseball team is slated to start.... wait that is already happened in 2014

Not sure why La Tech fans believe that NT ever committed to CUSA to establish a baseball program. With all the power that La Tech has, why not force the issue and demand that all members play baseball and while you are at it mandate women's rowing.

I have always admired the La Tech program for the success they have with limited resources, but this thread is just coming across as silly.

Each University has control over their own program and how they spend their money within the NCAA and CUSA rules. If La Tech is so disadvantaged then the answer is simple, just drop baseball: problem solved.

Because that was what was told to leadership of CUSA schools, that is a fact. As you can see UNT sought funding for a baseball team from UNT regents in September of 2012 and in 2013 announce the committment to start a baseball team. The other schools that joined were under the impression that UNT was committed to starting a baseball team. Follow through on your commitments that is all.

There is nothing "silly or dumbest thing ever or you are a fool" about following through on committments. Sorry even in this day and age, you should still follow through on committments.


https://www.ntdaily.com/a-unt-baseball-t...b-players/


https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college...be-earlier

Sorry, but just stating that NT made a commitment doesn't hold any weight. A commitment of what and to who? Obviously, there was no valid commitment made.
Did UTEP also make a similar agreement?

Apparently, NT has no immediate plans to start a baseball program. This disappoints a lot of NT fans, but I fail to see what significant effect it has on other CUSA members.

If you are all that worried about CUSA athletics, than maybe a mandate on the minimal level of the athletic budget would be much more effective than concentrating on one sport.

While some of you are petitioning C-USA to create policy for the North Texas athletic department, maybe you can get the conference to implement a minimum athletic budget standard of $30,000,000 annually, and any program that does not meet that financial commitment would be sent packing.

It's probably not my business, so sorry in advance if I upset anyone. As far as I can tell, CUSA currently has 12 schools that sponsor baseball. Why the rush to force a program to start sponsoring a new sport if there isn't an immediate need?

If UH were in CUSA still I'd be happy to see UNT invest in the sport that has the most impact on media deals in lieu of a baseball team that will take years to become competitive. That said, I realize UH has been separated from CUSA from long enough that I may not understand the current needs of the conference.

UTEP isn’t going to have a baseball team for a long time if we ever do have one. So as canewton said why the rush to have 13 baseball teams?

(05-16-2018 02:42 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  

(05-16-2018 12:58 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(05-16-2018 12:21 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  

(05-16-2018 11:35 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 10:59 PM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  Obviously, you are not aware of the contingency to start baseball as a condition of membership to join the conference. FACT. You guys reneged and fortunately for UNT we have a weak commissioner that didn't put any teeth to any penalties. The conference didn't want associate members. You have a competitive advantage. No argument can be made to say you don't.

Truth

This is what should happen, CUSA should develop some backbone and require UNT to follow through on their commitment. Or make them an associate member. Then their title IX sports like soccer, tennis can find a home in another conference. Then UNT will announce that baseball team is slated to start.... wait that is already happened in 2014

Not sure why La Tech fans believe that NT ever committed to CUSA to establish a baseball program. With all the power that La Tech has, why not force the issue and demand that all members play baseball and while you are at it mandate women's rowing.

I have always admired the La Tech program for the success they have with limited resources, but this thread is just coming across as silly.

Each University has control over their own program and how they spend their money within the NCAA and CUSA rules. If La Tech is so disadvantaged then the answer is simple, just drop baseball: problem solved.

Because that was what was told to leadership of CUSA schools, that is a fact. As you can see UNT sought funding for a baseball team from UNT regents in September of 2012 and in 2013 announce the committment to start a baseball team. The other schools that joined were under the impression that UNT was committed to starting a baseball team. Follow through on your commitments that is all.

There is nothing "silly or dumbest thing ever or you are a fool" about following through on committments. Sorry even in this day and age, you should still follow through on committments.


https://www.ntdaily.com/a-unt-baseball-t...b-players/


https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college...be-earlier

Sorry, but just stating that NT made a commitment doesn't hold any weight. A commitment of what and to who? Obviously, there was no valid commitment made.
Did UTEP also make a similar agreement?

Apparently, NT has no immediate plans to start a baseball program. This disappoints a lot of NT fans, but I fail to see what significant effect it has on other CUSA members.

If you are all that worried about CUSA athletics, than maybe a mandate on the minimal level of the athletic budget would be much more effective than concentrating on one sport.

This is correct. The fact that UNT made noise about starting baseball after joining CUSA has nothing to do with being required to do so. It had everything to do with Apogee being completed and the new financial benefits we would receive from CUSA (which is no longer the case). With a new school President, new AD, and new financial realities of CUSA, baseball has been moved to back burner. I'd guess it's three to five years away from starting.

Does not having baseball give UNT an advantage? If it does it's very minor and not worth discussing. When your talking about budgets and accounting it's almost impossible to compare apples to apples much less apples to oranges. Every school does things differently, has different priorities, different issues, and different rules and laws they have to abide.

La Tech has 10 players from Texas on their baseball roster. It's an advantage to your baseball program that we don't have a baseball team.

clt says to kick out UNT and replace them with Dallas baptist.

(05-17-2018 06:21 PM)ghostofclt Wrote:  clt says to kick out UNT and replace them with Dallas baptist.

That clt fellow is actually pretty funny.