Quote:Cliven Bundy and his sons led two armed standoffs against the federal government and beat them twice in court. The Bundys and their supporters see themselves as Patriots fighting government overreach. Others see them as domestic terrorists rallying extremists and conspiracy theorists to their side.

Quote:There’s Bundy’s version of himself: a rebel cowboy father of 14 and grandfather of 66 who believes the government is determined to either kill him or put him behind bars for life, while also stealing his livelihood.

Quote:Then there’s the government’s version of Bundy: a vigilante capable of summoning an army eager and ready to revolt against the federal government.

https://longreads.com/2018/05/15/bundyvi...he-desert/

And some people just think he's a ******* that doesn't want to pay his bills and has the good fortune of being such in a place where the jury pool doesn't like the government.

Then there's my view: Both sides are wrong.

(05-15-2018 09:32 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Then there's my view: Both sides are wrong.

I do get the same feeling. It seems both sides overstepped however my sympathies certainly lie more with the Bundys than with the Federal government.

(05-15-2018 09:54 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 09:32 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Then there's my view: Both sides are wrong.

I do get the same feeling. It seems both sides overstepped however my sympathies certainly lie more with the Bundys than with the Federal government.

Push comes to shove--same here.