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David Hogg Tries to Use Gun Statistic to Prove a Point ,It Backfires Big Time
Quote:On Sunday, pro-gun control Parkland activist David Hogg shared a screenshot from a Vox explainer video showing the total number of gun deaths in the United States from 2000 to 2013 and comparing it to American deaths from AIDS, drug overdoses, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and terrorism over the same time period.
Hogg shared it because the number of gun deaths exceeds those from the aforementioned causes:
When broken down, however, the vast majority of those gun deaths over that period of time are due to suicides, which — while tragic — is not by definition gun violence.
Pro-gun rights Parkland activist Kyle Kashuv offered the following rebuttal to the narrative Hogg was creating:
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RE: David Hogg Tries to Use Gun Statistic to Prove a Point ,It Backfires Big Time
Why is this child even allowed on Twitter ? Where are his parents ? He should be at home studying or something and not trying to tell the adults how to live. He needs to go out and get a job, earn a living, pay some tax, and then - and only then - should he be allowed to have an opinion.
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Lord Stanley
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RE: David Hogg Tries to Use Gun Statistic to Prove a Point ,It Backfires Big Time
David Hogg tries to remain relevant, fails.
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RE: David Hogg Tries to Use Gun Statistic to Prove a Point ,It Backfires Big Time
Screw the little manipulated prick
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RE: David Hogg Tries to Use Gun Statistic to Prove a Point ,It Backfires Big Time
The argument from the left though is that without guns, many suicides wouldn't be successful and thus fewer people would die... but I'm not sure the evidence actually supports that. More significantly, probably 95% of gun suicides are by hand-gun... which a ban on hand guns would alienate even many of the supporters of bans on semi-auto rifles etc.
I don't know that murders would increase because of gun suicides going down... need to look more closely at that... but I don't think people who put guns to their heads and pull the triggers are making a 'cry for help' that many pill overdosers or half-hearted attempts do who then get lucky (sometimes merely by poor planning). Someone willing to do the former would choose an demonstrably effective means of killing themselves. Jumping off of a very tall structure or stabbing yourself in the heart are quite effective if that's what you're trying to do.
(This post was last modified: 05-15-2018 12:31 PM by Hambone10.)
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RE: David Hogg Tries to Use Gun Statistic to Prove a Point ,It Backfires Big Time
His 15 minutes are up. He will flail wildly and throw tantrums to stay in the news, like most children.
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RE: David Hogg Tries to Use Gun Statistic to Prove a Point ,It Backfires Big Time
he should be worrying about trying to get into college instead of giving out some false gun statistics.
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RE: David Hogg Tries to Use Gun Statistic to Prove a Point ,It Backfires Big Time
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RE: David Hogg Tries to Use Gun Statistic to Prove a Point ,It Backfires Big Time
(05-15-2018 11:47 PM)q5sys Wrote:
This is great.
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RE: David Hogg Tries to Use Gun Statistic to Prove a Point ,It Backfires Big Time
He’s 18.
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RE: David Hogg Tries to Use Gun Statistic to Prove a Point ,It Backfires Big Time
(05-16-2018 08:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: He’s 18.
and like all other liberals- a smart mouthed insufferable prick
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RE: David Hogg Tries to Use Gun Statistic to Prove a Point ,It Backfires Big Time
(05-16-2018 08:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: He’s 18.
and a poosy....
he'll commit suicide one day........nobody will give a shite
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Lord Stanley
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RE: David Hogg Tries to Use Gun Statistic to Prove a Point ,It Backfires Big Time
(05-15-2018 01:34 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote: he should be worrying about trying to get into college
He's past that part. Couldn't get in.
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RE: David Hogg Tries to Use Gun Statistic to Prove a Point ,It Backfires Big Time
(05-16-2018 09:18 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote: (05-15-2018 01:34 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote: he should be worrying about trying to get into college
He's past that part. Couldn't get in.
wait, so he didnt get into any colleges that he applied to?
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RE: David Hogg Tries to Use Gun Statistic to Prove a Point ,It Backfires Big Time
I think the last article I read said he's been accepted to several, but he's taking a gap year to work the mid-terms.
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RE: David Hogg Tries to Use Gun Statistic to Prove a Point ,It Backfires Big Time
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Lord Stanley
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RE: David Hogg Tries to Use Gun Statistic to Prove a Point ,It Backfires Big Time
(05-16-2018 09:21 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote: (05-16-2018 09:18 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote: (05-15-2018 01:34 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote: he should be worrying about trying to get into college
He's past that part. Couldn't get in.
wait, so he didnt get into any colleges that he applied to?
From what I can aresed to remember, he didn't get into any of his preferred choices.
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RE: David Hogg Tries to Use Gun Statistic to Prove a Point ,It Backfires Big Time
(05-16-2018 09:25 AM)fsquid Wrote: I think the last article I read said he's been accepted to several, but he's taking a gap year to work the mid-terms.
is covertly funded by the RNC......the masses simply say thank you
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RE: David Hogg Tries to Use Gun Statistic to Prove a Point ,It Backfires Big Time
(05-16-2018 09:29 AM)stinkfist Wrote: (05-16-2018 09:25 AM)fsquid Wrote: I think the last article I read said he's been accepted to several, but he's taking a gap year to work the mid-terms.
is covertly funded by the RNC......the masses simply say thank you
I doubt anyone changes their vote based on him. Maybe he's polarizing enough to improve turnout on both sides.
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RE: David Hogg Tries to Use Gun Statistic to Prove a Point ,It Backfires Big Time
(05-16-2018 08:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: He’s 18.
And unapologeticly telling anyone who will listen he is more intelligent, wise, and compassionate than the generation that came before him.
If you want to play the "I'm only 18" card then don't decide you know what best to do with my rights.
edt:
Also... I said when this whole thing started that making an 18yo the face of your movement was (1) a mistake and (2) cruel to do to the 18 yo...
(This post was last modified: 05-16-2018 09:39 AM by Bull_In_Exile.)
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