(05-18-2018 03:53 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 03:32 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  I think it's great that it's now ok, per BHO and the Dems, to have spies in opposition campaigns going forward!

Imagine if the GOP had been spying on HilLIARy -- she wouldn't have been able to get away with the server/bleachbit/hammer thing.

American politics is gonna start getting really good!

Using the Russians to hack Hilary is just like spying.

That's a stretch, even for you.

(05-18-2018 03:53 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  A person who flipped vs a plant into the campaign would be two different situations. Again, don't beg the Russians for help and you don't have this situation. I love it.

That's not what you previously suggested. You suggested that the person was a criminal friend of the President who was flipped was flipped a long time ago.

(05-18-2018 03:53 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  Using the Russians to hack Hilary is just like spying.

ELEMENTARY MY DEAR WATSON

(05-18-2018 03:53 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 03:32 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  I think it's great that it's now ok, per BHO and the Dems, to have spies in opposition campaigns going forward!

Imagine if the GOP had been spying on HilLIARy -- she wouldn't have been able to get away with the server/bleachbit/hammer thing.

American politics is gonna start getting really good!

Using the Russians to hack Hilary is just like spying.

A person who flipped vs a plant into the campaign would be two different situations. Again, don't beg the Russians for help and you don't have this situation. I love it.

Who begged “the Russians” for help? When? How?

(05-18-2018 03:53 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 03:32 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  I think it's great that it's now ok, per BHO and the Dems, to have spies in opposition campaigns going forward!

Imagine if the GOP had been spying on HilLIARy -- she wouldn't have been able to get away with the server/bleachbit/hammer thing.

American politics is gonna start getting really good!

Using the Russians to hack Hilary is just like spying.

A person who flipped vs a plant into the campaign would be two different situations. Again, don't beg the Russians for help and you don't have this situation. I love it.

”using the Russians to hack Hilary is just like spying”

I agree with this statement.

(05-18-2018 04:46 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 03:53 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 03:32 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  I think it's great that it's now ok, per BHO and the Dems, to have spies in opposition campaigns going forward!

Imagine if the GOP had been spying on HilLIARy -- she wouldn't have been able to get away with the server/bleachbit/hammer thing.

American politics is gonna start getting really good!

Using the Russians to hack Hilary is just like spying.

A person who flipped vs a plant into the campaign would be two different situations. Again, don't beg the Russians for help and you don't have this situation. I love it.

Who begged “the Russians” for help? When? How?

Why am I being held to a higher standard than the president.

The GOOD thing for America was that the corrupt, lying, fraudulent, mean, evil rotten b@tch Hillary got beat and Trump won. That was the Good in the election. Hopefully Obama and his fellow henchmen will go down one day for the corruption they brought to the 2016 election. Thank goodness the American people saw Hillary and the Dems for the corrupt people they are and put Trump in the White House.

(05-18-2018 03:53 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 03:32 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  I think it's great that it's now ok, per BHO and the Dems, to have spies in opposition campaigns going forward!

Imagine if the GOP had been spying on HilLIARy -- she wouldn't have been able to get away with the server/bleachbit/hammer thing.

American politics is gonna start getting really good!

Using the Russians to hack Hilary is just like spying.

A person who flipped vs a plant into the campaign would be two different situations. Again, don't beg the Russians for help and you don't have this situation. I love it.

So you are cool with the Trump FBI, CIA, and NSA "flipping" some democrat inside the next presidential campaign. Now we know where you stand. Thats gonna work great. Stalin would be proud of you.

(05-18-2018 07:20 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 03:53 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 03:32 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  I think it's great that it's now ok, per BHO and the Dems, to have spies in opposition campaigns going forward!

Imagine if the GOP had been spying on HilLIARy -- she wouldn't have been able to get away with the server/bleachbit/hammer thing.

American politics is gonna start getting really good!

Using the Russians to hack Hilary is just like spying.

A person who flipped vs a plant into the campaign would be two different situations. Again, don't beg the Russians for help and you don't have this situation. I love it.

So you are cool with the Trump FBI, CIA, and NSA "flipping" some democrat inside the next presidential campaign. Now we know where you stand. Thats gonna work great. Stalin would be proud of you.

If they are flippable, go for it. I'm not trying to protect the corrupt. Which is most of them.

(05-18-2018 07:34 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 07:20 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 03:53 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 03:32 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  I think it's great that it's now ok, per BHO and the Dems, to have spies in opposition campaigns going forward!

Imagine if the GOP had been spying on HilLIARy -- she wouldn't have been able to get away with the server/bleachbit/hammer thing.

American politics is gonna start getting really good!

Using the Russians to hack Hilary is just like spying.

A person who flipped vs a plant into the campaign would be two different situations. Again, don't beg the Russians for help and you don't have this situation. I love it.

So you are cool with the Trump FBI, CIA, and NSA "flipping" some democrat inside the next presidential campaign. Now we know where you stand. Thats gonna work great. Stalin would be proud of you.

If they are flippable, go for it. I'm not trying to protect the corrupt. Which is most of them.

Komrad, under the full weight of the state, everyone is flippable. Democrats dont Bill of Rights much, do they. We know where you stand.

(05-18-2018 11:40 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Does it occur to anyone that it is somewhat shocking that with a spy in the Trump camp, specifically looking for "collusion" with "the Russians," they were not immediately able to come up with a crime?

Here we are, a year and a half later, and they still don't have one. OK, Manafort failed to file some paperwork 10 years ago. But that's not exactly tantamount to hijacking an election.

Whats amazing is that they haven't been able to find something to prosecute with. If they had a spy in the campaign... they could have just used them to encourage people to engage in illegal action and then use that action to file arrests.

This is the bread/butter of how undercover government espionage works. Convince someone to do something they shouldnt, then quietly pick them up and flip them to do something further up the food chain. so that they can pop or flip someone higher.

That they weren't able to make this happen so they could secure an arrest is utterly astounding to me.

(05-18-2018 07:45 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 07:34 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 07:20 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 03:53 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 03:32 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  I think it's great that it's now ok, per BHO and the Dems, to have spies in opposition campaigns going forward!

Imagine if the GOP had been spying on HilLIARy -- she wouldn't have been able to get away with the server/bleachbit/hammer thing.

American politics is gonna start getting really good!

Using the Russians to hack Hilary is just like spying.

A person who flipped vs a plant into the campaign would be two different situations. Again, don't beg the Russians for help and you don't have this situation. I love it.

So you are cool with the Trump FBI, CIA, and NSA "flipping" some democrat inside the next presidential campaign. Now we know where you stand. Thats gonna work great. Stalin would be proud of you.

If they are flippable, go for it. I'm not trying to protect the corrupt. Which is most of them.

Komrad, under the full weight of the state, everyone is flippable. Democrats dont Bill of Rights much, do they. We know where you stand.

LOL
Those Russians probably flip after being waterboarded.

(05-18-2018 11:40 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Does it occur to anyone that it is somewhat shocking that with a spy in the Trump camp, specifically looking for "collusion" with "the Russians," they were not immediately able to come up with a crime?

Here we are, a year and a half later, and they still don't have one. OK, Manafort failed to file some paperwork 10 years ago. But that's not exactly tantamount to hijacking an election.

it's amazingly scary all the info that has been released to date right before our eyes......

and what is Sessions doing about it??? that's the one that really bothers me....

like hill-lair-liar stated, "we're all gonna fk'n hang if we lose this one".....

those dipshites simply didn't think it was plausible.....oopsy poopsy....

that's what really makes me laugh every single day....

DJT is just letting them slowly hang themselves.....he really is the 'teflon Don' simply b/c he's not a g'dammed career politician.....they can't handle his methodology.....they don't have a fk'n clue how to combat a guy that does everything he says he's going to do as he gives dems and the msm da finga every single day....

#catandmouse

good luck dippos......you're going to need it.....

It's unbelievable what the so called liberal party has become. Nothing but pure statists.

(05-18-2018 08:08 PM)q5sys Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 11:40 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Does it occur to anyone that it is somewhat shocking that with a spy in the Trump camp, specifically looking for "collusion" with "the Russians," they were not immediately able to come up with a crime?

Here we are, a year and a half later, and they still don't have one. OK, Manafort failed to file some paperwork 10 years ago. But that's not exactly tantamount to hijacking an election.

Whats amazing is that they haven't been able to find something to prosecute with. If they had a spy in the campaign... they could have just used them to encourage people to engage in illegal action and then use that action to file arrests.

This is the bread/butter of how undercover government espionage works. Convince someone to do something they shouldnt, then quietly pick them up and flip them to do something further up the food chain. so that they can pop or flip someone higher.

That they weren't able to make this happen so they could secure an arrest is utterly astounding to me.

you already know the covert ops report came back with something to this tune.....

"man, this guy has no clue what he's doing in the political lyin's den......however, we're getting our arse creamed....he likes middle american/constitutional/business values, fried chicken, and fast food....the guy never sleeps and is a dynamo.......now what do we do?"

the dippos just can't get out of their own way......it a beautiful thing to watch unfold.....

I'm loving every single minute of this bs......

there wasn't another candidate that had a snowball's of doing what he has done and how he did it......

this is a case study for the ages.....he's easily exceeded expectations.....it's been impressive to watch....

(05-18-2018 08:08 PM)q5sys Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 11:40 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Does it occur to anyone that it is somewhat shocking that with a spy in the Trump camp, specifically looking for "collusion" with "the Russians," they were not immediately able to come up with a crime?

Here we are, a year and a half later, and they still don't have one. OK, Manafort failed to file some paperwork 10 years ago. But that's not exactly tantamount to hijacking an election.

Whats amazing is that they haven't been able to find something to prosecute with. If they had a spy in the campaign... they could have just used them to encourage people to engage in illegal action and then use that action to file arrests.

This is the bread/butter of how undercover government espionage works. Convince someone to do something they shouldnt, then quietly pick them up and flip them to do something further up the food chain. so that they can pop or flip someone higher.

That they weren't able to make this happen so they could secure an arrest is utterly astounding to me.

+3 for this one. That is dead on target, and it speaks volumes about the actual integrity of the Trump organization.

(05-18-2018 03:53 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 03:32 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  I think it's great that it's now ok, per BHO and the Dems, to have spies in opposition campaigns going forward!

Imagine if the GOP had been spying on HilLIARy -- she wouldn't have been able to get away with the server/bleachbit/hammer thing.

American politics is gonna start getting really good!

Using the Russians to hack Hilary is just like spying.

A person who flipped vs a plant into the campaign would be two different situations. Again, don't beg the Russians for help and you don't have this situation. I love it.

Again don't whine when during the next election of there's an FBI agent in the DNC looking for actual foreign collusion.

I get it. No way a person like Trump could spend way less and be so far behind in the lib polls to pull off this.

It's not like people weren't sick of the previous 8 years.

(05-18-2018 05:11 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 03:53 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 03:32 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  I think it's great that it's now ok, per BHO and the Dems, to have spies in opposition campaigns going forward!

Imagine if the GOP had been spying on HilLIARy -- she wouldn't have been able to get away with the server/bleachbit/hammer thing.

American politics is gonna start getting really good!

Using the Russians to hack Hilary is just like spying.

A person who flipped vs a plant into the campaign would be two different situations. Again, don't beg the Russians for help and you don't have this situation. I love it.

”using the Russians to hack Hilary is just like spying”

I agree with this statement.

It's a great statement, but there's not any evidence it happened that way.

(05-19-2018 07:23 AM)Claw Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 08:08 PM)q5sys Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 11:40 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Does it occur to anyone that it is somewhat shocking that with a spy in the Trump camp, specifically looking for "collusion" with "the Russians," they were not immediately able to come up with a crime?

Here we are, a year and a half later, and they still don't have one. OK, Manafort failed to file some paperwork 10 years ago. But that's not exactly tantamount to hijacking an election.

Whats amazing is that they haven't been able to find something to prosecute with. If they had a spy in the campaign... they could have just used them to encourage people to engage in illegal action and then use that action to file arrests.

This is the bread/butter of how undercover government espionage works. Convince someone to do something they shouldnt, then quietly pick them up and flip them to do something further up the food chain. so that they can pop or flip someone higher.

That they weren't able to make this happen so they could secure an arrest is utterly astounding to me.

+3 for this one. That is dead on target, and it speaks volumes about the actual integrity of the Trump organization.

Trump is perhaps the most ethical leader in history.

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(05-19-2018 10:06 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Trump is perhaps the most ethical leader in history.

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I know you meant this from a standpoint. But it could actually prove true.

The utterly incoherent are, perversely, less equipped to pull off underhanded behavior. President Trump is no Clinton or Obama. That, in many ways, is a good thing.