If we could get the NIT to allow it, what about having the C-USA tournament champion go to the NIT and the C-USA regular season champion go to the NCAA tournament, if two NCAA tourny berths could not be secured??

(05-21-2018 12:25 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  If we could get the NIT to allow it, what about having the C-USA tournament champion go to the NIT and the C-USA regular season champion go to the NCAA tournament, if two NCAA tourny berths could not be secured??

That makes as much sense as.....Well it doesn't make sense at all. WTH, is the water in Ruston just as bad as the water in Flint MI, because you have to be drinking something if you think that a team that has just won 3 games in 3 days or 4 games in 4 days, just crowned Conference Champs and would just be happy with the NIT.

(05-21-2018 12:47 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 12:25 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  If we could get the NIT to allow it, what about having the C-USA tournament champion go to the NIT and the C-USA regular season champion go to the NCAA tournament, if two NCAA tourny berths could not be secured??

That makes as much sense as.....Well it doesn't make sense at all. WTH, is the water in Ruston just as bad as the water in Flint MI, because you have to be drinking something if you think that a team that has just won 3 games in 3 days or 4 games in 4 days, just crowned Conference Champs and would just be happy with the NIT.

How fair is it though, that the season come down to three games in 3 days, or 4 games in 4 days?? Really it isn't fair, IMO, and this addresses that.

(05-21-2018 01:00 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 12:47 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 12:25 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  If we could get the NIT to allow it, what about having the C-USA tournament champion go to the NIT and the C-USA regular season champion go to the NCAA tournament, if two NCAA tourny berths could not be secured??

That makes as much sense as.....Well it doesn't make sense at all. WTH, is the water in Ruston just as bad as the water in Flint MI, because you have to be drinking something if you think that a team that has just won 3 games in 3 days or 4 games in 4 days, just crowned Conference Champs and would just be happy with the NIT.

How fair is it though, that the season come down to three games in 3 days, or 4 games in 4 days?? Really it isn't fair, IMO, and this addresses that.

Just win and it's not an issue.

(05-21-2018 01:00 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 12:47 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 12:25 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  If we could get the NIT to allow it, what about having the C-USA tournament champion go to the NIT and the C-USA regular season champion go to the NCAA tournament, if two NCAA tourny berths could not be secured??

That makes as much sense as.....Well it doesn't make sense at all. WTH, is the water in Ruston just as bad as the water in Flint MI, because you have to be drinking something if you think that a team that has just won 3 games in 3 days or 4 games in 4 days, just crowned Conference Champs and would just be happy with the NIT.

How fair is it though, that the season come down to three games in 3 days, or 4 games in 4 days?? Really it isn't fair, IMO, and this addresses that.

More fair than it being awarded using tiebreaker rules which would be possible giving the NCAA bid to the regular season champ. Also, without playing complete round robin or double round robin in regular season there will be schools with easier and harder schedules. Winning the regular season by one game doesn't necessarily mean your the best team. I'd prefer the "hot" team in the tourney even if they started out the season slow. It's March, win and advance. Just my opinion though.

How bout this conference somehow gain enough respect where our regular season champion would be a lock for the NCAA any way.

(05-21-2018 01:02 PM)monarx Wrote:  How bout this conference somehow gain enough respect where our regular season champion would be a lock for the NCAA any way.

How ? Go undefeated until tourney championship game ?

(05-21-2018 01:00 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  How fair is it though, that the season come down to three games in 3 days, or 4 games in 4 days?? Really it isn't fair, IMO, and this addresses that.

A team that can get hot and win a couple of games in a weekend is the kind of team we want representing the conference in March.

Ideally that's also the team that's been best all season long, but a team punching above their weight class is a good thing in March.

(05-21-2018 10:04 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 01:00 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 12:47 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 12:25 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  If we could get the NIT to allow it, what about having the C-USA tournament champion go to the NIT and the C-USA regular season champion go to the NCAA tournament, if two NCAA tourny berths could not be secured??

That makes as much sense as.....Well it doesn't make sense at all. WTH, is the water in Ruston just as bad as the water in Flint MI, because you have to be drinking something if you think that a team that has just won 3 games in 3 days or 4 games in 4 days, just crowned Conference Champs and would just be happy with the NIT.

How fair is it though, that the season come down to three games in 3 days, or 4 games in 4 days?? Really it isn't fair, IMO, and this addresses that.

More fair than it being awarded using tiebreaker rules which would be possible giving the NCAA bid to the regular season champ. Also, without playing complete round robin or double round robin in regular season there will be schools with easier and harder schedules. Winning the regular season by one game doesn't necessarily mean your the best team. I'd prefer the "hot" team in the tourney even if they started out the season slow. It's March, win and advance. Just my opinion though.

That's why I've been an advocate of doing a single round-robin, then taking the top four or five teams and having them play a round-robin for the auto bid. You're guaranteed a good team will represent the conference in the tournament and the others will get an RPI boost for NCAA/NIT consideration.

The *fairest* way to do it is double round-robin, winner gets the bid, but that's not happening unless CUSA gets down to at least 11 teams.

(05-21-2018 01:16 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 10:04 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 01:00 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 12:47 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 12:25 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  If we could get the NIT to allow it, what about having the C-USA tournament champion go to the NIT and the C-USA regular season champion go to the NCAA tournament, if two NCAA tourny berths could not be secured??

That makes as much sense as.....Well it doesn't make sense at all. WTH, is the water in Ruston just as bad as the water in Flint MI, because you have to be drinking something if you think that a team that has just won 3 games in 3 days or 4 games in 4 days, just crowned Conference Champs and would just be happy with the NIT.

How fair is it though, that the season come down to three games in 3 days, or 4 games in 4 days?? Really it isn't fair, IMO, and this addresses that.

More fair than it being awarded using tiebreaker rules which would be possible giving the NCAA bid to the regular season champ. Also, without playing complete round robin or double round robin in regular season there will be schools with easier and harder schedules. Winning the regular season by one game doesn't necessarily mean your the best team. I'd prefer the "hot" team in the tourney even if they started out the season slow. It's March, win and advance. Just my opinion though.

That's why I've been an advocate of doing a single round-robin, then taking the top four or five teams and having them play a round-robin for the auto bid. You're guaranteed a good team will represent the conference in the tournament and the others will get an RPI boost for NCAA/NIT consideration.

The *fairest* way to do it is double round-robin, winner gets the bid, but that's not happening unless CUSA gets down to at least 11 teams.

You could still end up with a BS tiebreaker rule determining the bid, which is fine for seeding but I'd prefer the tourney champ get the bid. I'm all for vastly cutting down the number of teams that play in the conference tourney.

(05-21-2018 12:25 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  If we could get the NIT to allow it, what about having the C-USA tournament champion go to the NIT and the C-USA regular season champion go to the NCAA tournament, if two NCAA tourny berths could not be secured??

The regular season champ for every conference gets an automatic berth to the NIT if they are not in the NCAA. Essentially, all regular season champs have guaranteed post season slots.

(05-21-2018 02:22 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 01:16 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 10:04 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 01:00 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 12:47 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  That makes as much sense as.....Well it doesn't make sense at all. WTH, is the water in Ruston just as bad as the water in Flint MI, because you have to be drinking something if you think that a team that has just won 3 games in 3 days or 4 games in 4 days, just crowned Conference Champs and would just be happy with the NIT.

How fair is it though, that the season come down to three games in 3 days, or 4 games in 4 days?? Really it isn't fair, IMO, and this addresses that.

More fair than it being awarded using tiebreaker rules which would be possible giving the NCAA bid to the regular season champ. Also, without playing complete round robin or double round robin in regular season there will be schools with easier and harder schedules. Winning the regular season by one game doesn't necessarily mean your the best team. I'd prefer the "hot" team in the tourney even if they started out the season slow. It's March, win and advance. Just my opinion though.

That's why I've been an advocate of doing a single round-robin, then taking the top four or five teams and having them play a round-robin for the auto bid. You're guaranteed a good team will represent the conference in the tournament and the others will get an RPI boost for NCAA/NIT consideration.

The *fairest* way to do it is double round-robin, winner gets the bid, but that's not happening unless CUSA gets down to at least 11 teams.

You could still end up with a BS tiebreaker rule determining the bid, which is fine for seeding but I'd prefer the tourney champ get the bid. I'm all for vastly cutting down the number of teams that play in the conference tourney.

Playoff game. That's how the Ivy did it when they did double round-robin and no tourney.

I think it's still feasible for a postseason round robin, but I admit that it would take some work to figure out.

Top 16 conferences (ranked by active tourney credits) should have two auto-bids to the NCAA.