https://twitter.com/FSULacrosse/status/1...02113?s=19

FSU at least thinking about bringing up their program. Probably start with women's and maybe men's.

(05-28-2018 07:43 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  https://twitter.com/FSULacrosse/status/1...02113?s=19

FSU at least thinking about bringing up their program. Probably start with women's and maybe men's.

I don't mind women's lacrosse, but I don't really want the "football first" schools spending money on men's lacrosse - they need to focus available funds on football!

(05-28-2018 08:50 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 07:43 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  https://twitter.com/FSULacrosse/status/1...02113?s=19

FSU at least thinking about bringing up their program. Probably start with women's and maybe men's.

I don't mind women's lacrosse, but I don't really want the "football first" schools spending money on men's lacrosse - they need to focus available funds on football!

FSU probably needs women's lacrosse for Title IX purposes. Lacrosse is growing rapidly at the HS and college levels. If FSU needs to give out more women's scholarships, why not lacrosse? Try watching lacrosse. You might find it a compelling sport.

What, exactly, does the FSU football program need to spend money on that it doesn't already have? There seems to be this attitude that the ACC football programs are so pitifully underfunded that they can't possibly compete but I don't see it. Their spending seem to be on a par with other conferences.

(05-28-2018 08:50 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 07:43 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  https://twitter.com/FSULacrosse/status/1...02113?s=19

FSU at least thinking about bringing up their program. Probably start with women's and maybe men's.

I don't mind women's lacrosse, but I don't really want the "football first" schools spending money on men's lacrosse - they need to focus available funds on football!

And who are you to be telling "football first" schools what the should be doing.
When football dies, or morphs into a sport that will not be recognizable, Lacrosse has a good opportunity to take it's place.
It's telling that this year's championship is between two top ten (academic rating) Universities without stereotypical "jocks" that have a hard time speaking in complete sentences.
That split is starting to spread and one day will be the divide (not conferences) that will break up the NCAA.

https://247sports.com/college/north-caro...-118279715

CHAPEL HILL – The NCAA has honored 10 athletic programs at the University of North Carolina for ranking among the top 10 percent nationally in Academic Progress Rates in their respective sports.

That is the highest number of programs honored among public institutions in the Atlantic Coast Conference, equals the sixth most among all Power 5 schools and ties the University of Michigan for the most teams honored among public schools in the Power 5 conferences.

The five men’s and five women’s teams from Carolina that are being honored this year include men’s basketball, men’s cross country, women’s fencing, men’s golf, gymnastics, women’s lacrosse, men’s soccer, men’s tennis, women’s tennis and volleyball. All 10 teams scored a perfect 1000 in the APR from 2013-14 to 2016-17.

Stanford leads all Power 5 schools with 17 top-10 programs and is followed nationally by Notre Dame (13), Boston College (12), Northwestern (12), Duke (11), UNC (10), Michigan (10), LSU (9), Illinois (8) and Rutgers (8).

In the ACC, Notre Dame, BC, Duke, and Carolina have the most teams in the top 10 percent in their respective sports. Clemson and Virginia are next with seven apiece. Georgia Tech, Louisville, and Syracuse have five, Florida State, Virginia Tech and Wake Forest have four, and Miami, N.C. State, and Pitt have three.

(05-28-2018 09:59 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 08:50 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 07:43 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  https://twitter.com/FSULacrosse/status/1...02113?s=19

FSU at least thinking about bringing up their program. Probably start with women's and maybe men's.

I don't mind women's lacrosse, but I don't really want the "football first" schools spending money on men's lacrosse - they need to focus available funds on football!

And who are you to be telling "football first" schools what the should be doing.
When football dies, or morphs into a sport that will not be recognizable, Lacrosse has a good opportunity to take it's place.
It's telling that this year's championship is between two top ten (academic rating) Universities without stereotypical "jocks" that have a hard time speaking in complete sentences.
That split is starting to spread and one day will be the divide (not conferences) that will break up the NCAA.

https://247sports.com/college/north-caro...-118279715

CHAPEL HILL – The NCAA has honored 10 athletic programs at the University of North Carolina for ranking among the top 10 percent nationally in Academic Progress Rates in their respective sports.

That is the highest number of programs honored among public institutions in the Atlantic Coast Conference, equals the sixth most among all Power 5 schools and ties the University of Michigan for the most teams honored among public schools in the Power 5 conferences.

The five men’s and five women’s teams from Carolina that are being honored this year include men’s basketball, men’s cross country, women’s fencing, men’s golf, gymnastics, women’s lacrosse, men’s soccer, men’s tennis, women’s tennis and volleyball. All 10 teams scored a perfect 1000 in the APR from 2013-14 to 2016-17.

Stanford leads all Power 5 schools with 17 top-10 programs and is followed nationally by Notre Dame (13), Boston College (12), Northwestern (12), Duke (11), UNC (10), Michigan (10), LSU (9), Illinois (8) and Rutgers (8).

In the ACC, Notre Dame, BC, Duke, and Carolina have the most teams in the top 10 percent in their respective sports. Clemson and Virginia are next with seven apiece. Georgia Tech, Louisville, and Syracuse have five, Florida State, Virginia Tech and Wake Forest have four, and Miami, N.C. State, and Pitt have three.

Louisville has 10 programs with a perfect APR score for 2016-17.

http://gocards.com/news/2018/5/23/genera...16-17.aspx

The ten UofL sports with a perfect 1,000 single-year APR score for the most recent 2016-17 figures are baseball, women's basketball, women's cross country, women's golf, women's lacrosse, women's soccer, men's tennis and women's tennis, women's track and volleyball. Six additional Cardinal sports teams had a 2016-17 APR at 970 or above.

UofL's men's and women's basketball, women's cross country, and men's and women's golf are among the top 10 percent in their respective sports in the latest multiyear APR, which measures academic eligibility, retention, and graduation for student-athletes. Four of the sports programs have a perfect 1,000 multiyear score for the most recent four-year period from 2013-17, with men's basketball just short of that mark with a 995 score, and each received public recognition from the NCAA last week.

Fifteen sports are among the upper half of scores in the nation within their respective sports for their multiyear APR and nine rank among the upper third. All of the 23 Cardinals sports teams — including 10 men's and 13 women's sports — have a four-year APR score at 960 or above, well above the minimum of 930 necessary to participate in post-season competition and to avoid penalties.





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(05-28-2018 10:19 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 09:59 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 08:50 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 07:43 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  https://twitter.com/FSULacrosse/status/1...02113?s=19

FSU at least thinking about bringing up their program. Probably start with women's and maybe men's.

I don't mind women's lacrosse, but I don't really want the "football first" schools spending money on men's lacrosse - they need to focus available funds on football!

And who are you to be telling "football first" schools what the should be doing.
When football dies, or morphs into a sport that will not be recognizable, Lacrosse has a good opportunity to take it's place.
It's telling that this year's championship is between two top ten (academic rating) Universities without stereotypical "jocks" that have a hard time speaking in complete sentences.
That split is starting to spread and one day will be the divide (not conferences) that will break up the NCAA.

https://247sports.com/college/north-caro...-118279715

CHAPEL HILL – The NCAA has honored 10 athletic programs at the University of North Carolina for ranking among the top 10 percent nationally in Academic Progress Rates in their respective sports.

That is the highest number of programs honored among public institutions in the Atlantic Coast Conference, equals the sixth most among all Power 5 schools and ties the University of Michigan for the most teams honored among public schools in the Power 5 conferences.

The five men’s and five women’s teams from Carolina that are being honored this year include men’s basketball, men’s cross country, women’s fencing, men’s golf, gymnastics, women’s lacrosse, men’s soccer, men’s tennis, women’s tennis and volleyball. All 10 teams scored a perfect 1000 in the APR from 2013-14 to 2016-17.

Stanford leads all Power 5 schools with 17 top-10 programs and is followed nationally by Notre Dame (13), Boston College (12), Northwestern (12), Duke (11), UNC (10), Michigan (10), LSU (9), Illinois (8) and Rutgers (8).

In the ACC, Notre Dame, BC, Duke, and Carolina have the most teams in the top 10 percent in their respective sports. Clemson and Virginia are next with seven apiece. Georgia Tech, Louisville, and Syracuse have five, Florida State, Virginia Tech and Wake Forest have four, and Miami, N.C. State, and Pitt have three.

Louisville has 10 programs with a perfect APR score for 2016-17.

http://gocards.com/news/2018/5/23/genera...16-17.aspx

The ten UofL sports with a perfect 1,000 single-year APR score for the most recent 2016-17 figures are baseball, women's basketball, women's cross country, women's golf, women's lacrosse, women's soccer, men's tennis and women's tennis, women's track and volleyball. Six additional Cardinal sports teams had a 2016-17 APR at 970 or above.

UofL's men's and women's basketball, women's cross country, and men's and women's golf are among the top 10 percent in their respective sports in the latest multiyear APR, which measures academic eligibility, retention, and graduation for student-athletes. Four of the sports programs have a perfect 1,000 multiyear score for the most recent four-year period from 2013-17, with men's basketball just short of that mark with a 995 score, and each received public recognition from the NCAA last week.

Fifteen sports are among the upper half of scores in the nation within their respective sports for their multiyear APR and nine rank among the upper third. All of the 23 Cardinals sports teams — including 10 men's and 13 women's sports — have a four-year APR score at 960 or above, well above the minimum of 930 necessary to participate in post-season competition and to avoid penalties.





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It's interesting that your claims for Louisville don't show up on anybody else's list.

http://bceagles.com/news/2018/5/16/bosto...ccess.aspx

here is a list of the last 12 years from the Boston College web site:
2018: 1. Stanford 17; 2. Notre Dame 13; 3. (tie) Boston College, Northwestern 12; 5. Duke 11; 6. (tie) Michigan, North Carolina 10

2017: 1. Stanford 17; 2. Notre Dame 14; 3. (tie) Boston College, Duke 12; 5. (tie) Michigan and Minnesota 11; 7. Northwestern 10; 8. (tie) Rice, Rutgers 8; 9. (tie) Arizona State, California, Illinois, South Carolina, Temple, Vanderbilt 7.

2016: 1. Stanford 17; 2. Notre Dame 16; 3. Duke 15; 4. Minnesota 14; 5. (tie) Boston College, Northwestern 12; 7. (tie) Michigan, Rice 10; 9. Virginia 8; 10. Navy, North Carolina, Tulane 7.

2015: 1. Stanford 19; 2. Notre Dame 17; 3. (tie) Duke, Northwestern 15; 5. Minnesota 14; 6. Boston College 12; 7. Michigan 10; 8. Vanderbilt 8; 9. (tie) Arizona State, Illinois, Penn State, Texas, Tulane 7.

2014: 1. Notre Dame 15; 2. (tie) Duke, Stanford 14; 4. (tie) Boston College, Minnesota, Northwestern 12; 7. Penn State 8; 8. Vanderbilt 7; 9. (tie) Connecticut, Indiana, North Carolina, Ohio State, Ohio University 6.

2013: 1. (tie) Notre Dame, Duke 15; 3. Northwestern 14; 4. (tie) Boston College, Stanford 13; 6. (tie) Penn State, Vanderbilt 8; 8. Rice 7; 9. (tie) Texas, Illinois, Ohio State 6.

2012: 1. Notre Dame 17; 2. Duke 13; 3. (tie) Boston College, Northwestern, Stanford 10; 7. (tie) Texas, Wake Forest 7; 9. Rice 6; 10. (tie) Illinois, Miami (Fla.), Ohio State, Tulane 5.

2011: 1. Notre Dame 17; 2. Duke 15; 3. Boston College 11, 4. Vanderbilt 10; 5. (tie) Northwestern, Penn State, Stanford, Texas 9; 9. U.S. Naval Academy 8; 10. North Carolina 7.

2010: 1. Duke 15; 2. Notre Dame 14, 3. Boston College 13, 4. Northwestern 10, 5. U.S. Naval Academy 9, 6. (tie) North Carolina, Stanford 8; 8. Vanderbilt 7; 9. (tie) Michigan, Rice, Vanderbilt 6.

2009: 1. Notre Dame 14; 2. Duke 12; 3. (tie) Boston College, Stanford, U.S. Naval Academy 11; 6. Rice 7; 7. (tie) Michigan, North Carolina 6; 9. (tie) Northwestern, Penn State, Virginia, Wake Forest 5.

2008: 1. (tie) Duke, U.S. Naval Academy 12; 3. Notre Dame 11; 4. (tie) Boston College, Stanford 10; 6. (tie) North Carolina, Northwestern 8.

2007: 1. U.S. Naval Academy 14; 2. (tie) Boston College, Stanford 12; 4. (tie) Notre Dame, Duke, Rice 11; 7. Northwestern 9; 8. North Carolina 7.

APR scores for all Division I teams will be released May 23. The APR measures eligibility, graduation and retention each semester or academic term and provides a clear picture of the academic performance for each team in every sport. All teams must meet an academic threshold of 930 to qualify for the postseason and can face penalties for continued low academic performance.

The most recent APRs are multiyear rates based on scores from the 2013-14, 2014-15, 2015-16 and 2016-17 academic years.

(05-28-2018 10:51 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 10:19 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 09:59 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 08:50 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 07:43 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  https://twitter.com/FSULacrosse/status/1...02113?s=19

FSU at least thinking about bringing up their program. Probably start with women's and maybe men's.

I don't mind women's lacrosse, but I don't really want the "football first" schools spending money on men's lacrosse - they need to focus available funds on football!

And who are you to be telling "football first" schools what the should be doing.
When football dies, or morphs into a sport that will not be recognizable, Lacrosse has a good opportunity to take it's place.
It's telling that this year's championship is between two top ten (academic rating) Universities without stereotypical "jocks" that have a hard time speaking in complete sentences.
That split is starting to spread and one day will be the divide (not conferences) that will break up the NCAA.

https://247sports.com/college/north-caro...-118279715

CHAPEL HILL – The NCAA has honored 10 athletic programs at the University of North Carolina for ranking among the top 10 percent nationally in Academic Progress Rates in their respective sports.

That is the highest number of programs honored among public institutions in the Atlantic Coast Conference, equals the sixth most among all Power 5 schools and ties the University of Michigan for the most teams honored among public schools in the Power 5 conferences.

The five men’s and five women’s teams from Carolina that are being honored this year include men’s basketball, men’s cross country, women’s fencing, men’s golf, gymnastics, women’s lacrosse, men’s soccer, men’s tennis, women’s tennis and volleyball. All 10 teams scored a perfect 1000 in the APR from 2013-14 to 2016-17.

Stanford leads all Power 5 schools with 17 top-10 programs and is followed nationally by Notre Dame (13), Boston College (12), Northwestern (12), Duke (11), UNC (10), Michigan (10), LSU (9), Illinois (8) and Rutgers (8).

In the ACC, Notre Dame, BC, Duke, and Carolina have the most teams in the top 10 percent in their respective sports. Clemson and Virginia are next with seven apiece. Georgia Tech, Louisville, and Syracuse have five, Florida State, Virginia Tech and Wake Forest have four, and Miami, N.C. State, and Pitt have three.

Louisville has 10 programs with a perfect APR score for 2016-17.

http://gocards.com/news/2018/5/23/genera...16-17.aspx

The ten UofL sports with a perfect 1,000 single-year APR score for the most recent 2016-17 figures are baseball, women's basketball, women's cross country, women's golf, women's lacrosse, women's soccer, men's tennis and women's tennis, women's track and volleyball. Six additional Cardinal sports teams had a 2016-17 APR at 970 or above.

UofL's men's and women's basketball, women's cross country, and men's and women's golf are among the top 10 percent in their respective sports in the latest multiyear APR, which measures academic eligibility, retention, and graduation for student-athletes. Four of the sports programs have a perfect 1,000 multiyear score for the most recent four-year period from 2013-17, with men's basketball just short of that mark with a 995 score, and each received public recognition from the NCAA last week.

Fifteen sports are among the upper half of scores in the nation within their respective sports for their multiyear APR and nine rank among the upper third. All of the 23 Cardinals sports teams — including 10 men's and 13 women's sports — have a four-year APR score at 960 or above, well above the minimum of 930 necessary to participate in post-season competition and to avoid penalties.





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It's interesting that your claims for Louisville don't show up on anybody else's list.

http://bceagles.com/news/2018/5/16/bosto...ccess.aspx

here is a list of the last 12 years from the Boston College web site:
2018: 1. Stanford 17; 2. Notre Dame 13; 3. (tie) Boston College, Northwestern 12; 5. Duke 11; 6. (tie) Michigan, North Carolina 10

2017: 1. Stanford 17; 2. Notre Dame 14; 3. (tie) Boston College, Duke 12; 5. (tie) Michigan and Minnesota 11; 7. Northwestern 10; 8. (tie) Rice, Rutgers 8; 9. (tie) Arizona State, California, Illinois, South Carolina, Temple, Vanderbilt 7.

2016: 1. Stanford 17; 2. Notre Dame 16; 3. Duke 15; 4. Minnesota 14; 5. (tie) Boston College, Northwestern 12; 7. (tie) Michigan, Rice 10; 9. Virginia 8; 10. Navy, North Carolina, Tulane 7.

2015: 1. Stanford 19; 2. Notre Dame 17; 3. (tie) Duke, Northwestern 15; 5. Minnesota 14; 6. Boston College 12; 7. Michigan 10; 8. Vanderbilt 8; 9. (tie) Arizona State, Illinois, Penn State, Texas, Tulane 7.

2014: 1. Notre Dame 15; 2. (tie) Duke, Stanford 14; 4. (tie) Boston College, Minnesota, Northwestern 12; 7. Penn State 8; 8. Vanderbilt 7; 9. (tie) Connecticut, Indiana, North Carolina, Ohio State, Ohio University 6.

2013: 1. (tie) Notre Dame, Duke 15; 3. Northwestern 14; 4. (tie) Boston College, Stanford 13; 6. (tie) Penn State, Vanderbilt 8; 8. Rice 7; 9. (tie) Texas, Illinois, Ohio State 6.

2012: 1. Notre Dame 17; 2. Duke 13; 3. (tie) Boston College, Northwestern, Stanford 10; 7. (tie) Texas, Wake Forest 7; 9. Rice 6; 10. (tie) Illinois, Miami (Fla.), Ohio State, Tulane 5.

2011: 1. Notre Dame 17; 2. Duke 15; 3. Boston College 11, 4. Vanderbilt 10; 5. (tie) Northwestern, Penn State, Stanford, Texas 9; 9. U.S. Naval Academy 8; 10. North Carolina 7.

2010: 1. Duke 15; 2. Notre Dame 14, 3. Boston College 13, 4. Northwestern 10, 5. U.S. Naval Academy 9, 6. (tie) North Carolina, Stanford 8; 8. Vanderbilt 7; 9. (tie) Michigan, Rice, Vanderbilt 6.

2009: 1. Notre Dame 14; 2. Duke 12; 3. (tie) Boston College, Stanford, U.S. Naval Academy 11; 6. Rice 7; 7. (tie) Michigan, North Carolina 6; 9. (tie) Northwestern, Penn State, Virginia, Wake Forest 5.

2008: 1. (tie) Duke, U.S. Naval Academy 12; 3. Notre Dame 11; 4. (tie) Boston College, Stanford 10; 6. (tie) North Carolina, Northwestern 8.

2007: 1. U.S. Naval Academy 14; 2. (tie) Boston College, Stanford 12; 4. (tie) Notre Dame, Duke, Rice 11; 7. Northwestern 9; 8. North Carolina 7.

APR scores for all Division I teams will be released May 23. The APR measures eligibility, graduation and retention each semester or academic term and provides a clear picture of the academic performance for each team in every sport. All teams must meet an academic threshold of 930 to qualify for the postseason and can face penalties for continued low academic performance.

The most recent APRs are multiyear rates based on scores from the 2013-14, 2014-15, 2015-16 and 2016-17 academic years.

Here's yet another source.

https://web3.ncaa.org/aprsearch/public_r...7096229545


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(05-28-2018 09:38 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 08:50 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 07:43 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  https://twitter.com/FSULacrosse/status/1...02113?s=19

FSU at least thinking about bringing up their program. Probably start with women's and maybe men's.

I don't mind women's lacrosse, but I don't really want the "football first" schools spending money on men's lacrosse - they need to focus available funds on football!

FSU probably needs women's lacrosse for Title IX purposes. Lacrosse is growing rapidly at the HS and college levels. If FSU needs to give out more women's scholarships, why not lacrosse? Try watching lacrosse. You might find it a compelling sport.

What, exactly, does the FSU football program need to spend money on that it doesn't already have? There seems to be this attitude that the ACC football programs are so pitifully underfunded that they can't possibly compete but I don't see it. Their spending seem to be on a par with other conferences.

You've seen it already - inability to retain football coaches. First they lost their national championship DC (Pruitt), then their head coach (Fisher). Not that I would've wanted to match Texas A&M even if I could, but still...

(05-28-2018 12:00 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 09:38 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 08:50 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 07:43 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  https://twitter.com/FSULacrosse/status/1...02113?s=19

FSU at least thinking about bringing up their program. Probably start with women's and maybe men's.

I don't mind women's lacrosse, but I don't really want the "football first" schools spending money on men's lacrosse - they need to focus available funds on football!

FSU probably needs women's lacrosse for Title IX purposes. Lacrosse is growing rapidly at the HS and college levels. If FSU needs to give out more women's scholarships, why not lacrosse? Try watching lacrosse. You might find it a compelling sport.

What, exactly, does the FSU football program need to spend money on that it doesn't already have? There seems to be this attitude that the ACC football programs are so pitifully underfunded that they can't possibly compete but I don't see it. Their spending seem to be on a par with other conferences.

You've seen it already - inability to retain football coaches. First they lost their national championship DC (Pruitt), then their head coach (Fisher). Not that I would've wanted to match Texas A&M even if I could, but still...

Do you really think that money was the reason that Fisher left FSU?

(05-28-2018 11:34 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 10:51 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 10:19 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 09:59 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 08:50 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I don't mind women's lacrosse, but I don't really want the "football first" schools spending money on men's lacrosse - they need to focus available funds on football!

And who are you to be telling "football first" schools what the should be doing.
When football dies, or morphs into a sport that will not be recognizable, Lacrosse has a good opportunity to take it's place.
It's telling that this year's championship is between two top ten (academic rating) Universities without stereotypical "jocks" that have a hard time speaking in complete sentences.
That split is starting to spread and one day will be the divide (not conferences) that will break up the NCAA.

https://247sports.com/college/north-caro...-118279715

CHAPEL HILL – The NCAA has honored 10 athletic programs at the University of North Carolina for ranking among the top 10 percent nationally in Academic Progress Rates in their respective sports.

That is the highest number of programs honored among public institutions in the Atlantic Coast Conference, equals the sixth most among all Power 5 schools and ties the University of Michigan for the most teams honored among public schools in the Power 5 conferences.

The five men’s and five women’s teams from Carolina that are being honored this year include men’s basketball, men’s cross country, women’s fencing, men’s golf, gymnastics, women’s lacrosse, men’s soccer, men’s tennis, women’s tennis and volleyball. All 10 teams scored a perfect 1000 in the APR from 2013-14 to 2016-17.

Stanford leads all Power 5 schools with 17 top-10 programs and is followed nationally by Notre Dame (13), Boston College (12), Northwestern (12), Duke (11), UNC (10), Michigan (10), LSU (9), Illinois (8) and Rutgers (8).

In the ACC, Notre Dame, BC, Duke, and Carolina have the most teams in the top 10 percent in their respective sports. Clemson and Virginia are next with seven apiece. Georgia Tech, Louisville, and Syracuse have five, Florida State, Virginia Tech and Wake Forest have four, and Miami, N.C. State, and Pitt have three.

Louisville has 10 programs with a perfect APR score for 2016-17.

http://gocards.com/news/2018/5/23/genera...16-17.aspx

The ten UofL sports with a perfect 1,000 single-year APR score for the most recent 2016-17 figures are baseball, women's basketball, women's cross country, women's golf, women's lacrosse, women's soccer, men's tennis and women's tennis, women's track and volleyball. Six additional Cardinal sports teams had a 2016-17 APR at 970 or above.

UofL's men's and women's basketball, women's cross country, and men's and women's golf are among the top 10 percent in their respective sports in the latest multiyear APR, which measures academic eligibility, retention, and graduation for student-athletes. Four of the sports programs have a perfect 1,000 multiyear score for the most recent four-year period from 2013-17, with men's basketball just short of that mark with a 995 score, and each received public recognition from the NCAA last week.

Fifteen sports are among the upper half of scores in the nation within their respective sports for their multiyear APR and nine rank among the upper third. All of the 23 Cardinals sports teams — including 10 men's and 13 women's sports — have a four-year APR score at 960 or above, well above the minimum of 930 necessary to participate in post-season competition and to avoid penalties.





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It's interesting that your claims for Louisville don't show up on anybody else's list.

http://bceagles.com/news/2018/5/16/bosto...ccess.aspx

here is a list of the last 12 years from the Boston College web site:
2018: 1. Stanford 17; 2. Notre Dame 13; 3. (tie) Boston College, Northwestern 12; 5. Duke 11; 6. (tie) Michigan, North Carolina 10

2017: 1. Stanford 17; 2. Notre Dame 14; 3. (tie) Boston College, Duke 12; 5. (tie) Michigan and Minnesota 11; 7. Northwestern 10; 8. (tie) Rice, Rutgers 8; 9. (tie) Arizona State, California, Illinois, South Carolina, Temple, Vanderbilt 7.

2016: 1. Stanford 17; 2. Notre Dame 16; 3. Duke 15; 4. Minnesota 14; 5. (tie) Boston College, Northwestern 12; 7. (tie) Michigan, Rice 10; 9. Virginia 8; 10. Navy, North Carolina, Tulane 7.

2015: 1. Stanford 19; 2. Notre Dame 17; 3. (tie) Duke, Northwestern 15; 5. Minnesota 14; 6. Boston College 12; 7. Michigan 10; 8. Vanderbilt 8; 9. (tie) Arizona State, Illinois, Penn State, Texas, Tulane 7.

2014: 1. Notre Dame 15; 2. (tie) Duke, Stanford 14; 4. (tie) Boston College, Minnesota, Northwestern 12; 7. Penn State 8; 8. Vanderbilt 7; 9. (tie) Connecticut, Indiana, North Carolina, Ohio State, Ohio University 6.

2013: 1. (tie) Notre Dame, Duke 15; 3. Northwestern 14; 4. (tie) Boston College, Stanford 13; 6. (tie) Penn State, Vanderbilt 8; 8. Rice 7; 9. (tie) Texas, Illinois, Ohio State 6.

2012: 1. Notre Dame 17; 2. Duke 13; 3. (tie) Boston College, Northwestern, Stanford 10; 7. (tie) Texas, Wake Forest 7; 9. Rice 6; 10. (tie) Illinois, Miami (Fla.), Ohio State, Tulane 5.

2011: 1. Notre Dame 17; 2. Duke 15; 3. Boston College 11, 4. Vanderbilt 10; 5. (tie) Northwestern, Penn State, Stanford, Texas 9; 9. U.S. Naval Academy 8; 10. North Carolina 7.

2010: 1. Duke 15; 2. Notre Dame 14, 3. Boston College 13, 4. Northwestern 10, 5. U.S. Naval Academy 9, 6. (tie) North Carolina, Stanford 8; 8. Vanderbilt 7; 9. (tie) Michigan, Rice, Vanderbilt 6.

2009: 1. Notre Dame 14; 2. Duke 12; 3. (tie) Boston College, Stanford, U.S. Naval Academy 11; 6. Rice 7; 7. (tie) Michigan, North Carolina 6; 9. (tie) Northwestern, Penn State, Virginia, Wake Forest 5.

2008: 1. (tie) Duke, U.S. Naval Academy 12; 3. Notre Dame 11; 4. (tie) Boston College, Stanford 10; 6. (tie) North Carolina, Northwestern 8.

2007: 1. U.S. Naval Academy 14; 2. (tie) Boston College, Stanford 12; 4. (tie) Notre Dame, Duke, Rice 11; 7. Northwestern 9; 8. North Carolina 7.

APR scores for all Division I teams will be released May 23. The APR measures eligibility, graduation and retention each semester or academic term and provides a clear picture of the academic performance for each team in every sport. All teams must meet an academic threshold of 930 to qualify for the postseason and can face penalties for continued low academic performance.

The most recent APRs are multiyear rates based on scores from the 2013-14, 2014-15, 2015-16 and 2016-17 academic years.

Here's yet another source.

https://web3.ncaa.org/aprsearch/public_r...7096229545


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NCAA web site shows 5 Louisville teams for 2016-17, 6 for 2015-16, 4 for 2014-15
https://web3.ncaa.org/aprsearch/aprawards

(05-28-2018 12:08 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 12:00 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 09:38 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 08:50 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 07:43 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  https://twitter.com/FSULacrosse/status/1...02113?s=19

FSU at least thinking about bringing up their program. Probably start with women's and maybe men's.

I don't mind women's lacrosse, but I don't really want the "football first" schools spending money on men's lacrosse - they need to focus available funds on football!

FSU probably needs women's lacrosse for Title IX purposes. Lacrosse is growing rapidly at the HS and college levels. If FSU needs to give out more women's scholarships, why not lacrosse? Try watching lacrosse. You might find it a compelling sport.

What, exactly, does the FSU football program need to spend money on that it doesn't already have? There seems to be this attitude that the ACC football programs are so pitifully underfunded that they can't possibly compete but I don't see it. Their spending seem to be on a par with other conferences.

You've seen it already - inability to retain football coaches. First they lost their national championship DC (Pruitt), then their head coach (Fisher). Not that I would've wanted to match Texas A&M even if I could, but still...

Do you really think that money was the reason that Fisher left FSU?

Yes, 75 million reasons. Not that I blame HIM. If someone wanted to give me $75 million GUARANTEED, doing a job that I enjoy - man, that would be super hard to turn down.

(05-28-2018 12:31 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 11:34 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 10:51 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 10:19 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 09:59 AM)XLance Wrote:  And who are you to be telling "football first" schools what the should be doing.
When football dies, or morphs into a sport that will not be recognizable, Lacrosse has a good opportunity to take it's place.
It's telling that this year's championship is between two top ten (academic rating) Universities without stereotypical "jocks" that have a hard time speaking in complete sentences.
That split is starting to spread and one day will be the divide (not conferences) that will break up the NCAA.

https://247sports.com/college/north-caro...-118279715

CHAPEL HILL – The NCAA has honored 10 athletic programs at the University of North Carolina for ranking among the top 10 percent nationally in Academic Progress Rates in their respective sports.

That is the highest number of programs honored among public institutions in the Atlantic Coast Conference, equals the sixth most among all Power 5 schools and ties the University of Michigan for the most teams honored among public schools in the Power 5 conferences.

The five men’s and five women’s teams from Carolina that are being honored this year include men’s basketball, men’s cross country, women’s fencing, men’s golf, gymnastics, women’s lacrosse, men’s soccer, men’s tennis, women’s tennis and volleyball. All 10 teams scored a perfect 1000 in the APR from 2013-14 to 2016-17.

Stanford leads all Power 5 schools with 17 top-10 programs and is followed nationally by Notre Dame (13), Boston College (12), Northwestern (12), Duke (11), UNC (10), Michigan (10), LSU (9), Illinois (8) and Rutgers (8).

In the ACC, Notre Dame, BC, Duke, and Carolina have the most teams in the top 10 percent in their respective sports. Clemson and Virginia are next with seven apiece. Georgia Tech, Louisville, and Syracuse have five, Florida State, Virginia Tech and Wake Forest have four, and Miami, N.C. State, and Pitt have three.

Louisville has 10 programs with a perfect APR score for 2016-17.

http://gocards.com/news/2018/5/23/genera...16-17.aspx

The ten UofL sports with a perfect 1,000 single-year APR score for the most recent 2016-17 figures are baseball, women's basketball, women's cross country, women's golf, women's lacrosse, women's soccer, men's tennis and women's tennis, women's track and volleyball. Six additional Cardinal sports teams had a 2016-17 APR at 970 or above.

UofL's men's and women's basketball, women's cross country, and men's and women's golf are among the top 10 percent in their respective sports in the latest multiyear APR, which measures academic eligibility, retention, and graduation for student-athletes. Four of the sports programs have a perfect 1,000 multiyear score for the most recent four-year period from 2013-17, with men's basketball just short of that mark with a 995 score, and each received public recognition from the NCAA last week.

Fifteen sports are among the upper half of scores in the nation within their respective sports for their multiyear APR and nine rank among the upper third. All of the 23 Cardinals sports teams — including 10 men's and 13 women's sports — have a four-year APR score at 960 or above, well above the minimum of 930 necessary to participate in post-season competition and to avoid penalties.





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It's interesting that your claims for Louisville don't show up on anybody else's list.

http://bceagles.com/news/2018/5/16/bosto...ccess.aspx

here is a list of the last 12 years from the Boston College web site:
2018: 1. Stanford 17; 2. Notre Dame 13; 3. (tie) Boston College, Northwestern 12; 5. Duke 11; 6. (tie) Michigan, North Carolina 10

2017: 1. Stanford 17; 2. Notre Dame 14; 3. (tie) Boston College, Duke 12; 5. (tie) Michigan and Minnesota 11; 7. Northwestern 10; 8. (tie) Rice, Rutgers 8; 9. (tie) Arizona State, California, Illinois, South Carolina, Temple, Vanderbilt 7.

2016: 1. Stanford 17; 2. Notre Dame 16; 3. Duke 15; 4. Minnesota 14; 5. (tie) Boston College, Northwestern 12; 7. (tie) Michigan, Rice 10; 9. Virginia 8; 10. Navy, North Carolina, Tulane 7.

2015: 1. Stanford 19; 2. Notre Dame 17; 3. (tie) Duke, Northwestern 15; 5. Minnesota 14; 6. Boston College 12; 7. Michigan 10; 8. Vanderbilt 8; 9. (tie) Arizona State, Illinois, Penn State, Texas, Tulane 7.

2014: 1. Notre Dame 15; 2. (tie) Duke, Stanford 14; 4. (tie) Boston College, Minnesota, Northwestern 12; 7. Penn State 8; 8. Vanderbilt 7; 9. (tie) Connecticut, Indiana, North Carolina, Ohio State, Ohio University 6.

2013: 1. (tie) Notre Dame, Duke 15; 3. Northwestern 14; 4. (tie) Boston College, Stanford 13; 6. (tie) Penn State, Vanderbilt 8; 8. Rice 7; 9. (tie) Texas, Illinois, Ohio State 6.

2012: 1. Notre Dame 17; 2. Duke 13; 3. (tie) Boston College, Northwestern, Stanford 10; 7. (tie) Texas, Wake Forest 7; 9. Rice 6; 10. (tie) Illinois, Miami (Fla.), Ohio State, Tulane 5.

2011: 1. Notre Dame 17; 2. Duke 15; 3. Boston College 11, 4. Vanderbilt 10; 5. (tie) Northwestern, Penn State, Stanford, Texas 9; 9. U.S. Naval Academy 8; 10. North Carolina 7.

2010: 1. Duke 15; 2. Notre Dame 14, 3. Boston College 13, 4. Northwestern 10, 5. U.S. Naval Academy 9, 6. (tie) North Carolina, Stanford 8; 8. Vanderbilt 7; 9. (tie) Michigan, Rice, Vanderbilt 6.

2009: 1. Notre Dame 14; 2. Duke 12; 3. (tie) Boston College, Stanford, U.S. Naval Academy 11; 6. Rice 7; 7. (tie) Michigan, North Carolina 6; 9. (tie) Northwestern, Penn State, Virginia, Wake Forest 5.

2008: 1. (tie) Duke, U.S. Naval Academy 12; 3. Notre Dame 11; 4. (tie) Boston College, Stanford 10; 6. (tie) North Carolina, Northwestern 8.

2007: 1. U.S. Naval Academy 14; 2. (tie) Boston College, Stanford 12; 4. (tie) Notre Dame, Duke, Rice 11; 7. Northwestern 9; 8. North Carolina 7.

APR scores for all Division I teams will be released May 23. The APR measures eligibility, graduation and retention each semester or academic term and provides a clear picture of the academic performance for each team in every sport. All teams must meet an academic threshold of 930 to qualify for the postseason and can face penalties for continued low academic performance.

The most recent APRs are multiyear rates based on scores from the 2013-14, 2014-15, 2015-16 and 2016-17 academic years.

Here's yet another source.

https://web3.ncaa.org/aprsearch/public_r...7096229545


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NCAA web site shows 5 Louisville teams for 2016-17, 6 for 2015-16, 4 for 2014-15
https://web3.ncaa.org/aprsearch/aprawards

This NCAA web site, as I posted earlier, shows 10 programs with a perfect 1000 score for 2016-17. (Baseball, women's basketball, women's cross country, women's rowing, women's lacrosse, women's golf, women's soccer, women's tennis, women's track & volleyball.) It also shows 4 with a perfect multi year score (Men's golf, women's basketball, women's cross country & women's golf).

https://web3.ncaa.org/aprsearch/public_r...7096229545

This discussion is way off topic & has nothing to do with the FSU presidents comments on lacrosse, if you want to continue then I suggest starting a new thread on APR scores.


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FSU would be stupid to start any program not forced by Title 9.

I am not a football only guy. But the minute football is negatively impacted, ALL $$$ dries up at FSU. The new AD doesn't understand this.

There isn't $$$$ to start anything.

(05-28-2018 09:38 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 08:50 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 07:43 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  https://twitter.com/FSULacrosse/status/1...02113?s=19

FSU at least thinking about bringing up their program. Probably start with women's and maybe men's.

I don't mind women's lacrosse, but I don't really want the "football first" schools spending money on men's lacrosse - they need to focus available funds on football!

FSU probably needs women's lacrosse for Title IX purposes. Lacrosse is growing rapidly at the HS and college levels. If FSU needs to give out more women's scholarships, why not lacrosse? Try watching lacrosse. You might find it a compelling sport.

What, exactly, does the FSU football program need to spend money on that it doesn't already have? There seems to be this attitude that the ACC football programs are so pitifully underfunded that they can't possibly compete but I don't see it. Their spending seem to be on a par with other conferences.

The last 2 coaches believe FSU is lacking badly in facilities.


People can argue one is wrong, but do you really believe both are?

When Florida State first joined the ACC their athletic department was limited.
In 1998 they started women's soccer (funded with football money) as their 17th varsity sport. In less than twenty years the 'noles had played in the national championship game three times and had one national championship

Florida State could have remained a football/baseball school but when they joined the ACC they committed to expanding their athletic offerings and they have succeeded very well as witnessed by their women's soccer program.

If you want FSU to stay stagnant in athletics, pump all of your money into football, otherwise know that that football money has funded a top level athletic program that all FSU fans can be proud of.

(05-28-2018 08:50 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 07:43 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  https://twitter.com/FSULacrosse/status/1...02113?s=19

FSU at least thinking about bringing up their program. Probably start with women's and maybe men's.

I don't mind women's lacrosse, but I don't really want the "football first" schools spending money on men's lacrosse - they need to focus available funds on football!

ND does both, and hockey too.

It can be done, no problem.

(05-28-2018 02:52 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 08:50 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 07:43 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  https://twitter.com/FSULacrosse/status/1...02113?s=19

FSU at least thinking about bringing up their program. Probably start with women's and maybe men's.

I don't mind women's lacrosse, but I don't really want the "football first" schools spending money on men's lacrosse - they need to focus available funds on football!

ND does both, and hockey too.

It can be done, no problem.

I'm sure it can... but then we'll all have to listen to Seminole fans whining about ACC revenues!

(05-28-2018 02:52 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 08:50 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 07:43 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  https://twitter.com/FSULacrosse/status/1...02113?s=19

FSU at least thinking about bringing up their program. Probably start with women's and maybe men's.

I don't mind women's lacrosse, but I don't really want the "football first" schools spending money on men's lacrosse - they need to focus available funds on football!

ND does both, and hockey too.

It can be done, no problem.

FSU doesn't have CLOSE to the $$$ ND has. The generational wealth are 2 different levels.

(05-28-2018 04:18 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 02:52 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 08:50 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 07:43 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  https://twitter.com/FSULacrosse/status/1...02113?s=19

FSU at least thinking about bringing up their program. Probably start with women's and maybe men's.

I don't mind women's lacrosse, but I don't really want the "football first" schools spending money on men's lacrosse - they need to focus available funds on football!

ND does both, and hockey too.

It can be done, no problem.

I'm sure it can... but then we'll all have to listen to Seminole fans whining about ACC revenues!

Seriously Mark? Insulting again because a few Noles (many seem oblivious) point out we are dead last in revenue?

Why does pointing out a fact always come to insulting with you?

[quote='XLance' pid='15318622' dateline='1527536998']
When Florida State first joined the ACC their athletic department was limited.
In 1998 they started women's soccer (funded with football money) as their 17th varsity sport. In less than twenty years the 'noles had played in the national championship game three times and had one national championship

Florida State could have remained a football/baseball school but when they joined the ACC they committed to expanding their athletic offerings and they have succeeded very well as witnessed by their women's soccer program.

If you want FSU to stay stagnant in athletics, pump all of your money into football, otherwise know that that football money has funded a top level athletic program that all FSU fans can be proud of.
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FSU has no choice. It will pump the $$$ football demands then do it's best to be well rounded.

Being $15-$20 Milion behind SEC teams will cause tough decisions to be made. It isn't a moral or sport against sport decision. It is a logical decision.

FSU doesn't have UNC $$$. It will be forced to make difficult decisions. If UNC did, it wouldn't short Basketball. FSU won't short football until there is no $. But current AD might try for a short term to do this, but in the end, football will require funds.


Making the hard decisions isn't 'stagnant' it is simple an accounting requirement to balance the books.