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(05-30-2018 09:12 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Drunk SEC fans?

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(05-30-2018 01:46 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-30-2018 01:35 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 08:20 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  Apparently Auburn, A&M, and LSU are pushing hard for allowing alcohol sales. IMO this is long overdue but I expect certain schools (like SC) to hold out for whatever reason.

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/top-i...7nueipyWK/

Tropical Storm arrives in Destin, FL on Sunday. SEC arrives in Destin, FL on Monday.

Timing is everything!

1. Alcohol sales: Not a fan of this, but it is probably pointless not to. The real liability here is a DUI related accidents after a game. Will venues, like bars, be held to standard of not selling the already inebriated?

2. Transfer rules: Saban can shut up. The kids should have the right to go anywhere if they don't like it, unless with stipends we start signing contracts. Hmm.

3. Gambling: I really don't want to go there at all. There's enough corruption from its presence already but its fingerprints will be all over everything if this becomes reality. I blame the courts because the Federal Government and organized crime are pretty much synonymous already.

As for keeping booze out of the Student Section, good grief! If you want a drink in the stadium now you either need to be in the Skyboxes or in the student section. It's reasonably dry everywhere else with minor exceptions that sometimes get arrested.
If the student is 21 years old he/she should be able to drink. Again, jail the trouble makers. I had season tix to the FSU games. Trust me, there are more than enough bars and tailgates to get sauced. Just outside the stadium. It is completely set up for drinking.
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(05-29-2018 08:20 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  Apparently Auburn, A&M, and LSU are pushing hard for allowing alcohol sales. IMO this is long overdue but I expect certain schools (like SC) to hold out for whatever reason.

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/top-i...7nueipyWK/

If they sell beer at the games it would cut down on the alcohol consumption.
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(06-01-2018 08:56 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 08:20 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  Apparently Auburn, A&M, and LSU are pushing hard for allowing alcohol sales. IMO this is long overdue but I expect certain schools (like SC) to hold out for whatever reason.

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/top-i...7nueipyWK/

If they sell beer at the games it would cut down on the alcohol consumption.

I agree. It’s actually common sense but ADs and presidents can be notoriously hard headed. I guess we’ll have to wait until next year
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(06-02-2018 07:35 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(06-01-2018 08:56 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 08:20 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  Apparently Auburn, A&M, and LSU are pushing hard for allowing alcohol sales. IMO this is long overdue but I expect certain schools (like SC) to hold out for whatever reason.

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/top-i...7nueipyWK/

If they sell beer at the games it would cut down on the alcohol consumption.

I agree. It’s actually common sense but ADs and presidents can be notoriously hard headed. I guess we’ll have to wait until next year

There is legislation being written in Raleigh at the request of East Carolina, NC State and Carolina to allow beer and wine sales in their stadiums.
Wake Forest has been selling beer and wine for several years.
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(06-02-2018 07:57 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(06-02-2018 07:35 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(06-01-2018 08:56 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 08:20 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  Apparently Auburn, A&M, and LSU are pushing hard for allowing alcohol sales. IMO this is long overdue but I expect certain schools (like SC) to hold out for whatever reason.

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/top-i...7nueipyWK/

If they sell beer at the games it would cut down on the alcohol consumption.

I agree. It’s actually common sense but ADs and presidents can be notoriously hard headed. I guess we’ll have to wait until next year

There is legislation being written in Raleigh at the request of East Carolina, NC State and Carolina to allow beer and wine sales in their stadiums.
Wake Forest has been selling beer and wine for several years.

So beer sales at ECU and NCSt and wine sales at UNC?04-cheers

BTW, Carrier Dome has sold Beer since 1980.
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IIRC, West Virginia U did a study a while back that found that banning alcohol sales at college football games was actually more dangerous because it encouraged such dramatic binge drinking before the game that you'd have people completely trashed before kickoff. May not apply to all, but it's an interesting point.

Miami re-allowed beer sales after a prohibition from the mid-2000s through 2016. It may just be because we're not a football power, but nothing has changed that much. Bottles are $7 for domestic and $8 for craft/imported, if you're willing to pay for that then you're probably not a student on a budget who's more likely to drink irresponsibly. It's next to impossible for our football games to compete price-wise with Uptown Oxford on a Saturday when you can get pitchers of Natty Light for as little as $1 and demand for our team is relatively low, although I can see how at SEC schools it's a different story.
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(06-01-2018 08:56 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 08:20 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  Apparently Auburn, A&M, and LSU are pushing hard for allowing alcohol sales. IMO this is long overdue but I expect certain schools (like SC) to hold out for whatever reason.

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/top-i...7nueipyWK/

If they sell beer at the games it would cut down on the alcohol consumption.

Not really. They'd just continue drinking at the game.
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(06-02-2018 07:57 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(06-02-2018 07:35 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(06-01-2018 08:56 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 08:20 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  Apparently Auburn, A&M, and LSU are pushing hard for allowing alcohol sales. IMO this is long overdue but I expect certain schools (like SC) to hold out for whatever reason.

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/top-i...7nueipyWK/

If they sell beer at the games it would cut down on the alcohol consumption.

I agree. It’s actually common sense but ADs and presidents can be notoriously hard headed. I guess we’ll have to wait until next year

There is legislation being written in Raleigh at the request of East Carolina, NC State and Carolina to allow beer and wine sales in their stadiums.
Wake Forest has been selling beer and wine for several years.

Very cool, I’m all for as many schools as possible allowing sales. I think the more SEC and college football fans get exposed to it the more normal it will be and the more abnormal not allowing sales will seem. IMO that is about the only positive of playing games in neutral sites.
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(06-03-2018 07:57 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(06-02-2018 07:57 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(06-02-2018 07:35 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(06-01-2018 08:56 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 08:20 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  Apparently Auburn, A&M, and LSU are pushing hard for allowing alcohol sales. IMO this is long overdue but I expect certain schools (like SC) to hold out for whatever reason.

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/top-i...7nueipyWK/

If they sell beer at the games it would cut down on the alcohol consumption.

I agree. It’s actually common sense but ADs and presidents can be notoriously hard headed. I guess we’ll have to wait until next year

There is legislation being written in Raleigh at the request of East Carolina, NC State and Carolina to allow beer and wine sales in their stadiums.
Wake Forest has been selling beer and wine for several years.

Very cool, I’m all for as many schools as possible allowing sales. I think the more SEC and college football fans get exposed to it the more normal it will be and the more abnormal not allowing sales will seem. IMO that is about the only positive of playing games in neutral sites.

For some reason, some people get worked up about alcohol sales in stadiums. I don't get that, IMO it's about as trivial an issue as there can be one way or the other.

Sure, there have been times when I've been at a game and wanted a beer, only to find out about a 'no alcohol' policy. My response? Buy a coke or sprite instead, problem solved, thirst quenched. If you need to drink, do it while tailgating in the parking lot. Heck, down here at LSU, where even in November the temperature can be 80 degrees with the sun beating down on you, you have to be dumb to be drinking while exposed to that in the stands, dehydration is a real possibility.

IMO, the issue is really a manufactured one: In areas where it isn't allowed, schools would like to allow it so as to make more money, but they don't want to come off as irresponsible or unseemly for doing so, they seek cover in 'studies' that show consumption goes down and the like.

It's a kind of charade. It also tells me that any school pushing for it is hard up for money, so then i want to know why?
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(06-03-2018 10:12 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(06-03-2018 07:57 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(06-02-2018 07:57 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(06-02-2018 07:35 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(06-01-2018 08:56 PM)XLance Wrote:  If they sell beer at the games it would cut down on the alcohol consumption.

I agree. It’s actually common sense but ADs and presidents can be notoriously hard headed. I guess we’ll have to wait until next year

There is legislation being written in Raleigh at the request of East Carolina, NC State and Carolina to allow beer and wine sales in their stadiums.
Wake Forest has been selling beer and wine for several years.

Very cool, I’m all for as many schools as possible allowing sales. I think the more SEC and college football fans get exposed to it the more normal it will be and the more abnormal not allowing sales will seem. IMO that is about the only positive of playing games in neutral sites.

For some reason, some people get worked up about alcohol sales in stadiums. I don't get that, IMO it's about as trivial an issue as there can be one way or the other.

Sure, there have been times when I've been at a game and wanted a beer, only to find out about a 'no alcohol' policy. My response? Buy a coke or sprite instead, problem solved, thirst quenched. If you need to drink, do it while tailgating in the parking lot. Heck, down here at LSU, where even in November the temperature can be 80 degrees with the sun beating down on you, you have to be dumb to be drinking while exposed to that in the stands, dehydration is a real possibility.

IMO, the issue is really a manufactured one: In areas where it isn't allowed, schools would like to allow it so as to make more money, but they don't want to come off as irresponsible or unseemly for doing so, they seek cover in 'studies' that show consumption goes down and the like.

It's a kind of charade. It also tells me that any school pushing for it is hard up for money, so then i want to know why?

Would you care to list the schools in the Southeastern Conference which are hard up for money? We have a state or two that are suffering from irresponsible mismanagement of funds, but as schools I can't think of a single one where alcohol sales at venues would be a financial necessity.

For this issue I really think it is one of convenience for some fans versus Old Bible Belt mentality. You have big donors who are public figures that keep up their "churchy" image by fighting against it (while they get their booze in private at home or in the luxury boxes) and you have the general public creating a demand that the A.D.'s want to meet, and you have the Presidents that are caught in the middle and who are bolstered by attorneys worried about liability. So it's a standoff between posturing hypocritical donors & public figures, lawyers, businessmen, and fans. But in the South where every candidate seeks public office with ads showing them hunting, fishing, and going to church and claiming to be conservative nobody is going to publicly back alcohol sales, especially those who claim to be Baptist (the majority).
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(06-03-2018 11:00 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-03-2018 10:12 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(06-03-2018 07:57 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(06-02-2018 07:57 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(06-02-2018 07:35 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  I agree. It’s actually common sense but ADs and presidents can be notoriously hard headed. I guess we’ll have to wait until next year

There is legislation being written in Raleigh at the request of East Carolina, NC State and Carolina to allow beer and wine sales in their stadiums.
Wake Forest has been selling beer and wine for several years.

Very cool, I’m all for as many schools as possible allowing sales. I think the more SEC and college football fans get exposed to it the more normal it will be and the more abnormal not allowing sales will seem. IMO that is about the only positive of playing games in neutral sites.

For some reason, some people get worked up about alcohol sales in stadiums. I don't get that, IMO it's about as trivial an issue as there can be one way or the other.

Sure, there have been times when I've been at a game and wanted a beer, only to find out about a 'no alcohol' policy. My response? Buy a coke or sprite instead, problem solved, thirst quenched. If you need to drink, do it while tailgating in the parking lot. Heck, down here at LSU, where even in November the temperature can be 80 degrees with the sun beating down on you, you have to be dumb to be drinking while exposed to that in the stands, dehydration is a real possibility.

IMO, the issue is really a manufactured one: In areas where it isn't allowed, schools would like to allow it so as to make more money, but they don't want to come off as irresponsible or unseemly for doing so, they seek cover in 'studies' that show consumption goes down and the like.

It's a kind of charade. It also tells me that any school pushing for it is hard up for money, so then i want to know why?

Would you care to list the schools in the Southeastern Conference which are hard up for money? We have a state or two that are suffering from irresponsible mismanagement of funds, but as schools I can't think of a single one where alcohol sales at venues would be a financial necessity.

I'd say "none", at least not the athletic departments - the 'academic sides' of some schools might be a different matter. E.g., here in Louisiana, LSU is looking down the barrel of another big cut from the state, unless the legislators can get their act together in the next couple of days. But their AD is swimming in money, LOL.

Though never underestimate any university's desire for more money, the appetite for that is really insatiable. 07-coffee3

Look, I believe in freedom, meaning that if you are an adult, you should be allowed to do what you want, unless the state has a good reason for stopping you. So I'm in favor of being able to buy a brewski at the concession stand during the ball game. But if i can't? I won't sweat two drops worrying about it. Not a big deal.
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(06-03-2018 10:12 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(06-03-2018 07:57 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(06-02-2018 07:57 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(06-02-2018 07:35 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(06-01-2018 08:56 PM)XLance Wrote:  If they sell beer at the games it would cut down on the alcohol consumption.

I agree. It’s actually common sense but ADs and presidents can be notoriously hard headed. I guess we’ll have to wait until next year

There is legislation being written in Raleigh at the request of East Carolina, NC State and Carolina to allow beer and wine sales in their stadiums.
Wake Forest has been selling beer and wine for several years.

Very cool, I’m all for as many schools as possible allowing sales. I think the more SEC and college football fans get exposed to it the more normal it will be and the more abnormal not allowing sales will seem. IMO that is about the only positive of playing games in neutral sites.

For some reason, some people get worked up about alcohol sales in stadiums. I don't get that, IMO it's about as trivial an issue as there can be one way or the other.

Sure, there have been times when I've been at a game and wanted a beer, only to find out about a 'no alcohol' policy. My response? Buy a coke or sprite instead, problem solved, thirst quenched. If you need to drink, do it while tailgating in the parking lot. Heck, down here at LSU, where even in November the temperature can be 80 degrees with the sun beating down on you, you have to be dumb to be drinking while exposed to that in the stands, dehydration is a real possibility.

IMO, the issue is really a manufactured one: In areas where it isn't allowed, schools would like to allow it so as to make more money, but they don't want to come off as irresponsible or unseemly for doing so, they seek cover in 'studies' that show consumption goes down and the like.

It's a kind of charade. It also tells me that any school pushing for it is hard up for money, so then i want to know why?

I agree it is somewhat trivial. Personally, I don’t ever go to the concessions at SC games anyway and I doubt I would if alcohol was allowed. For me, it’d be more about basketball and baseball.

I still think people should be allowed to do it if they want, it’s more just the principle of it.
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(06-03-2018 03:23 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(06-03-2018 10:12 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(06-03-2018 07:57 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(06-02-2018 07:57 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(06-02-2018 07:35 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  I agree. It’s actually common sense but ADs and presidents can be notoriously hard headed. I guess we’ll have to wait until next year

There is legislation being written in Raleigh at the request of East Carolina, NC State and Carolina to allow beer and wine sales in their stadiums.
Wake Forest has been selling beer and wine for several years.

Very cool, I’m all for as many schools as possible allowing sales. I think the more SEC and college football fans get exposed to it the more normal it will be and the more abnormal not allowing sales will seem. IMO that is about the only positive of playing games in neutral sites.

For some reason, some people get worked up about alcohol sales in stadiums. I don't get that, IMO it's about as trivial an issue as there can be one way or the other.

Sure, there have been times when I've been at a game and wanted a beer, only to find out about a 'no alcohol' policy. My response? Buy a coke or sprite instead, problem solved, thirst quenched. If you need to drink, do it while tailgating in the parking lot. Heck, down here at LSU, where even in November the temperature can be 80 degrees with the sun beating down on you, you have to be dumb to be drinking while exposed to that in the stands, dehydration is a real possibility.

IMO, the issue is really a manufactured one: In areas where it isn't allowed, schools would like to allow it so as to make more money, but they don't want to come off as irresponsible or unseemly for doing so, they seek cover in 'studies' that show consumption goes down and the like.

It's a kind of charade. It also tells me that any school pushing for it is hard up for money, so then i want to know why?

I agree it is somewhat trivial. Personally, I don’t ever go to the concessions at SC games anyway and I doubt I would if alcohol was allowed. For me, it’d be more about basketball and baseball.

I still think people should be allowed to do it if they want, it’s more just the principle of it.

I agree. If it was up to me i would sell the beer. Just saying IMO it is not an issue worth manning the barricades over.
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I'd vote to pass on alcohol sales.
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(06-03-2018 11:00 AM)JRsec Wrote:  So it's a standoff between posturing hypocritical donors & public figures, lawyers, businessmen, and fans. But in the South where every candidate seeks public office with ads showing them hunting, fishing, and going to church and claiming to be conservative nobody is going to publicly back alcohol sales, especially those who claim to be Baptist (the majority).

You know the difference between a Lutheran and a Baptist?


A Lutheran will speak to you when you run into them in the liquor store.
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(06-02-2018 01:28 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-01-2018 08:56 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 08:20 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  Apparently Auburn, A&M, and LSU are pushing hard for allowing alcohol sales. IMO this is long overdue but I expect certain schools (like SC) to hold out for whatever reason.

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/top-i...7nueipyWK/

If they sell beer at the games it would cut down on the alcohol consumption.

Not really. They'd just continue drinking at the game.

The drinking at the game would continue, true.
$6.00 beers vs. Bourbon and Coke with thousands of mini bottles not having to be cleared from he stands after the game.
At Carolina we no longer have vendors selling drinks, moving up and down the aisles. When we did, their sales call was "Coke... Sprite...chasers....mixers...
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