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RE: Big 12 revenue distribution
https://247sports.com/college/west-virgi...ssion=true

Quote:West Virginia, for example, expects to receive an addition $9 million or so in sponsorship-related revenue. A large chunk of that comes from the annual guarantee paid by the athletic department's Tier 3 partner, IMG College. In the end, the Mountaineers can expect to bank roughly $45 million for athletics. Yet that doesn't necessarily mean the Mountaineers or the Big 12 are stronger than SEC or Big Ten programs.

WVU's agreement with IMG College includes multimedia rights and Tier 3 properties. The Tier 3 properties are primarily radio broadcast rights but also rights to the small number of football and men's basketball games, all the games and matches for the other sports and coaches' shows. The multimedia rights are mostly ads on websites, signage, radio broadcasts, tickets and other physical properties, but also sponsorships and promotions.

The other Power 5 leagues include their Tier 3 rights with the conference payouts but count their multimedia rights separately. Certainly top SEC and Big Ten programs could rack in large sums of money for those properties.

WVU, which is receiving a full share from the Big 12 for just the second time after making a tiered transition into the league in the first four years, is in the final month of the fifth year of its 12-year contract with IMG College. That partnership has helped the Mountaineers create a list of properties for advertising and sponsorship revenue as well as a roster of coaches' shows and the revenue that comes with them. Estimates have WVU making about $4 million more off their rights than they were previously.

The relationship also allowed WVU to build a new scoreboard at Mountaineer Field last summer. The contract made $3.5 million available in capital projects through 2018, and the Mountaineers revealed that more than half of the price tag was covered by IMG College's contribution. Additionally, the back of the scoreboard faces Ruby Memorial Hospital and overlooks Don Nehlen Drive and parking lots where fans tailgate. WVU sold that space for advertising placement. That alone projects anywhere from the low to middle six figures in annual multimedia rights revenue.
06-03-2018 12:53 PM
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RE: Big 12 revenue distribution
(06-03-2018 12:53 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  https://247sports.com/college/west-virgi...ssion=true

Quote:West Virginia, for example, expects to receive an addition $9 million or so in sponsorship-related revenue. A large chunk of that comes from the annual guarantee paid by the athletic department's Tier 3 partner, IMG College. In the end, the Mountaineers can expect to bank roughly $45 million for athletics. Yet that doesn't necessarily mean the Mountaineers or the Big 12 are stronger than SEC or Big Ten programs.

WVU's agreement with IMG College includes multimedia rights and Tier 3 properties. The Tier 3 properties are primarily radio broadcast rights but also rights to the small number of football and men's basketball games, all the games and matches for the other sports and coaches' shows. The multimedia rights are mostly ads on websites, signage, radio broadcasts, tickets and other physical properties, but also sponsorships and promotions.

The other Power 5 leagues include their Tier 3 rights with the conference payouts but count their multimedia rights separately. Certainly top SEC and Big Ten programs could rack in large sums of money for those properties.

WVU, which is receiving a full share from the Big 12 for just the second time after making a tiered transition into the league in the first four years, is in the final month of the fifth year of its 12-year contract with IMG College. That partnership has helped the Mountaineers create a list of properties for advertising and sponsorship revenue as well as a roster of coaches' shows and the revenue that comes with them. Estimates have WVU making about $4 million more off their rights than they were previously.

The relationship also allowed WVU to build a new scoreboard at Mountaineer Field last summer. The contract made $3.5 million available in capital projects through 2018, and the Mountaineers revealed that more than half of the price tag was covered by IMG College's contribution. Additionally, the back of the scoreboard faces Ruby Memorial Hospital and overlooks Don Nehlen Drive and parking lots where fans tailgate. WVU sold that space for advertising placement. That alone projects anywhere from the low to middle six figures in annual multimedia rights revenue.

Transic this is out of bounds. West Virginia gets a tad for their T3 games. Therein ends the comparison on media money. Every SEC and Big 10 school has an IMG type agreement of some sort. Auburn's is with FOX and it amounts to another 10 to 11 million a year. Bama's is more. But that money is never counted in our media revenue.

The conference distributions are what is reported as media income. This year of course they were 40.9 million to each school. If we all added our merchandise, radio, coaches shows, trademarks, and licensing into the mix then SEC and Big 10 schools (depending upon the school) would all be making another 5 to 15 million per school.

These numbers are covered in the Gross Total Revenue numbers that come in from the annual tax returns.

So forgive me but West Virginia got around 35.5 million after conference expenses or call it 36.5 if you want to quibble. That's over 5 million less than SEC schools. If their 1 football and 5 basketball games got them another 3 million (which is generous) then they are 38.5 in TV media money.
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RE: Big 12 revenue distribution
I didn't post the entire article but in the first paragraph the author mentions $36.5 million from the conference for 2017-18.
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RE: Big 12 revenue distribution
(06-02-2018 11:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-02-2018 09:55 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  I think what you're going to see is entities like Amazon and Netflix making direct deals with say the Top 30 NCAA FB/MBB properties ala Nike and Under Armour

Meanwhile, the days of schools like Texas Tech and Baylor getting to sit at the big boy table due to politics and flukes of history are numbered

And I think you are wrong. Amazon and Netflix will sublet games from the networks because they don't have the production capabilities. TV is not going away as it relates to cable and dish. Amazon and Netflix will purchase the right to stream games, maybe even game on a network channel. We will earn more money as conferences, but conferences aren't going away. The presidents don't want to be responsible for contracts, the A.D.'s & Presidents hired contract attorney's as commissioners so they never would have to fool with it. Donors and alums want familiar games that have been played for decades and can be persuaded to have better OOC games and maybe even another conference game for a price.

What's more is the Big 10 and SEC are worth more as a unit than they are severely.

Not even in your lifetime will you see what that dumb ass Okie article predict come true and the so called Amazon exec was most strangely unnamed. Where I come from we call that B.S..

Corporate structures like the major conferences aren't going away. Streaming isn't going to completely replace cable. And institutions like Universities will act in their self interest, but their self interest is in not going it alone.

Currently, there will be a heavy amount of consumers who don't prefer to watch events streaming due to consumer age or where a consumer lives and internet capability. So I wonder if the streaming/tech companies get rights to games if there will be reciprocal broadcasting between for instance an Amazon and Fox or Netflix and ESPN for the next 10-20 years.

I get what your saying about the production capabilities from tech companies. So I wonder if that is just a cost that gets figured into the agreement. Maybe the tech companies shop their product rights around to networks for production capabilities. On the other hand we are talking about content around 2023-2025 so I would think they could get production in order by then.
06-04-2018 11:31 AM
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RE: Big 12 revenue distribution
(06-04-2018 11:31 AM)Win5002 Wrote:  
(06-02-2018 11:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-02-2018 09:55 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  I think what you're going to see is entities like Amazon and Netflix making direct deals with say the Top 30 NCAA FB/MBB properties ala Nike and Under Armour

Meanwhile, the days of schools like Texas Tech and Baylor getting to sit at the big boy table due to politics and flukes of history are numbered

And I think you are wrong. Amazon and Netflix will sublet games from the networks because they don't have the production capabilities. TV is not going away as it relates to cable and dish. Amazon and Netflix will purchase the right to stream games, maybe even game on a network channel. We will earn more money as conferences, but conferences aren't going away. The presidents don't want to be responsible for contracts, the A.D.'s & Presidents hired contract attorney's as commissioners so they never would have to fool with it. Donors and alums want familiar games that have been played for decades and can be persuaded to have better OOC games and maybe even another conference game for a price.

What's more is the Big 10 and SEC are worth more as a unit than they are severely.

Not even in your lifetime will you see what that dumb ass Okie article predict come true and the so called Amazon exec was most strangely unnamed. Where I come from we call that B.S..

Corporate structures like the major conferences aren't going away. Streaming isn't going to completely replace cable. And institutions like Universities will act in their self interest, but their self interest is in not going it alone.

Currently, there will be a heavy amount of consumers who don't prefer to watch events streaming due to consumer age or where a consumer lives and internet capability. So I wonder if the streaming/tech companies get rights to games if there will be reciprocal broadcasting between for instance an Amazon and Fox or Netflix and ESPN for the next 10-20 years.

I get what your saying about the production capabilities from tech companies. So I wonder if that is just a cost that gets figured into the agreement. Maybe the tech companies shop their product rights around to networks for production capabilities. On the other hand we are talking about content around 2023-2025 so I would think they could get production in order by then.

I wonder if half the battle in building a broadcast infrastructure comes in the form of a large number of these schools already having facilities in house? Obviously, some schools are ahead of the curve there, but it would make sense to decentralize some of these capacities so that neither an Amazon nor an ESPN has to foot as much overhead in maintaining the system.

If schools or pro teams or whoever maintain their own broadcasting facilities then it's probably easier to just sign distribution deals with the company of your choice or even create some of your own content for consumption outside the contract.

Now, an Amazon or Netflix or whoever would still have to invest in their own hardware for the purpose of putting it all together, but it should keep their costs down.
06-04-2018 03:16 PM
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RE: Big 12 revenue distribution
(06-04-2018 03:16 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(06-04-2018 11:31 AM)Win5002 Wrote:  
(06-02-2018 11:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-02-2018 09:55 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  I think what you're going to see is entities like Amazon and Netflix making direct deals with say the Top 30 NCAA FB/MBB properties ala Nike and Under Armour

Meanwhile, the days of schools like Texas Tech and Baylor getting to sit at the big boy table due to politics and flukes of history are numbered

And I think you are wrong. Amazon and Netflix will sublet games from the networks because they don't have the production capabilities. TV is not going away as it relates to cable and dish. Amazon and Netflix will purchase the right to stream games, maybe even game on a network channel. We will earn more money as conferences, but conferences aren't going away. The presidents don't want to be responsible for contracts, the A.D.'s & Presidents hired contract attorney's as commissioners so they never would have to fool with it. Donors and alums want familiar games that have been played for decades and can be persuaded to have better OOC games and maybe even another conference game for a price.

What's more is the Big 10 and SEC are worth more as a unit than they are severely.

Not even in your lifetime will you see what that dumb ass Okie article predict come true and the so called Amazon exec was most strangely unnamed. Where I come from we call that B.S..

Corporate structures like the major conferences aren't going away. Streaming isn't going to completely replace cable. And institutions like Universities will act in their self interest, but their self interest is in not going it alone.

Currently, there will be a heavy amount of consumers who don't prefer to watch events streaming due to consumer age or where a consumer lives and internet capability. So I wonder if the streaming/tech companies get rights to games if there will be reciprocal broadcasting between for instance an Amazon and Fox or Netflix and ESPN for the next 10-20 years.

I get what your saying about the production capabilities from tech companies. So I wonder if that is just a cost that gets figured into the agreement. Maybe the tech companies shop their product rights around to networks for production capabilities. On the other hand we are talking about content around 2023-2025 so I would think they could get production in order by then.

I wonder if half the battle in building a broadcast infrastructure comes in the form of a large number of these schools already having facilities in house? Obviously, some schools are ahead of the curve there, but it would make sense to decentralize some of these capacities so that neither an Amazon nor an ESPN has to foot as much overhead in maintaining the system.

If schools or pro teams or whoever maintain their own broadcasting facilities then it's probably easier to just sign distribution deals with the company of your choice or even create some of your own content for consumption outside the contract.

Now, an Amazon or Netflix or whoever would still have to invest in their own hardware for the purpose of putting it all together, but it should keep their costs down.

Not necessarily, they still have to hire the announces, camera crews and pay for all of that travel, not to mention the traveling equipment they'll have to buy.
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News out of Britain this morning...

Business Insider reports on Amazon buying rights to a minority of Premier League matches

This is very interesting, but let's put it in context.

Soccer is huge in Europe and the English Premier League is the best brand worldwide. More details are in the article, but the traditional broadcasters still own rights to the vast majority of games within the UK. Amazon is only getting 20 out of the 200 that were made available...there are actually 380 EPL matches in a season, but many are not broadcasted. But these games do appear to be exclusive rights and not simply an option for simulcasting like we've seen in the USA.

The figures were not disclosed, but the EPL rakes in huge cash so I doubt Amazon got any bargains. And I maintain that Amazon is just dipping their foot into the market with things like this. They're getting ready to make a splash in the not too distant future and grabbing EPL matches in a soccer-crazed environment made a ton of sense. You've also got these factors working for you...

-The teams play almost all year long so you don't have to worry about losing monthly subs.

-You don't have to jump through a lot of hoops to make sure you're accessing multiple markets as everyone in the country is primarily interested in this product.

-Establishing a relationship with the EPL could lead to more exclusive rights in other markets(USA maybe) and that would decrease overhead costs while undergirding a larger portfolio.

But here's the main thing to consider. If Amazon has the cash to buy up rights for one of the most expensive sports products in the world then spending money on most endeavors in the USA won't be any great challenge.
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