(06-06-2018 10:06 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 06:00 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(06-05-2018 05:41 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(06-05-2018 11:24 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  Cliffs?

Using pods for late season intraconference games and an alliance for Nov. interconference games (one home and away game) to help boost RPI.

*Primary Goal - improve conference tourney champ auto. seeds

*Secondary Goal - grabbing an at large bid when a team having a great year loses in the conference tourney

Also, talked about the possibility of mids owning and running neutral site tourneys in the future.

I think this plan could help the higher mids, but lower mids need the road money to survive. Hopefully this works, I get nauseated by 9th place teams getting bids.


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Yeah it sucks when they get a slot and proceed to make a run to the Final Four or Sweet 16. Oh wait...

I feel the same way. Like I get that people get frustrated by power conferences getting 8-10 teams in, but sometimes those teams are really really good and simply better than whatever mid major got left out.

Conversely I can point to 2016 when South Carolina got left at home despite finishing 3rd in conference and winning 24 games in the regular season. Tulsa got picked instead for the last spot despite having a worse record and losing to South Carolina head to head at a neutral site. It goes both ways.

Cuse was 8-10 in the ACC regular season this year. They won 3 ncaa games and beat a 2 seed in Michigan State at Detroit. They barely lost to Duke for a chance to make the Elite 8. Yet some of arbitrarily want to exclude them. Sorry some conferences and their schedules are worthy enough to take an 8-10 team. Gamecock gets it...many others on this board don't.

(06-07-2018 02:10 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 12:06 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 11:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  If the WCC had replaced Pepperdine and Santa Clara on St Mary's schedule with an extra two games each against BYU and Gonzaga, the Gaels are probably in the tournament and Syracuse is sitting at home.

If Saint Mary's had played Nevada and Rhode Island instead of saying no to those games, they would have been in the NCAA tournament.

That's what SMC will have to do going forward, now that two of the lowest RPI conference games have been taken off of their schedule. Play quality non-conference opponents, even if you have to go on the road or to a neutral-site tournament to play them. And that's what the best teams in these other conferences should do, too, rather than just playing their top 2 conference mates 4 or 5 times each.

The selection committee "ought" to place greater weight on non-conference performance because it is somewhat under the school' (takes two to tango).

St Mary's shouldn't be punished for being stuck in the best conference that will have them as a member but if they load up on cupcakes in non-conference they shouldn't be rewarded for playing a soft non-conference slate.

Another thing they should give more weight to is road games, but that will never happen. Big schools love to play OOC at home.


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(06-07-2018 02:33 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 02:10 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 12:06 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 11:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  If the WCC had replaced Pepperdine and Santa Clara on St Mary's schedule with an extra two games each against BYU and Gonzaga, the Gaels are probably in the tournament and Syracuse is sitting at home.

If Saint Mary's had played Nevada and Rhode Island instead of saying no to those games, they would have been in the NCAA tournament.

That's what SMC will have to do going forward, now that two of the lowest RPI conference games have been taken off of their schedule. Play quality non-conference opponents, even if you have to go on the road or to a neutral-site tournament to play them. And that's what the best teams in these other conferences should do, too, rather than just playing their top 2 conference mates 4 or 5 times each.

The selection committee "ought" to place greater weight on non-conference performance because it is somewhat under the school' (takes two to tango).

St Mary's shouldn't be punished for being stuck in the best conference that will have them as a member but if they load up on cupcakes in non-conference they shouldn't be rewarded for playing a soft non-conference slate.

Another thing they should give more weight to is road games, but that will never happen. Big schools love to play OOC at home.


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They play at home due to economics...why should they sacrifice hundreds of thousands of dollars to play a home n home with a mid-major?

(06-07-2018 03:41 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 02:33 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 02:10 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 12:06 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 11:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  If the WCC had replaced Pepperdine and Santa Clara on St Mary's schedule with an extra two games each against BYU and Gonzaga, the Gaels are probably in the tournament and Syracuse is sitting at home.

If Saint Mary's had played Nevada and Rhode Island instead of saying no to those games, they would have been in the NCAA tournament.

That's what SMC will have to do going forward, now that two of the lowest RPI conference games have been taken off of their schedule. Play quality non-conference opponents, even if you have to go on the road or to a neutral-site tournament to play them. And that's what the best teams in these other conferences should do, too, rather than just playing their top 2 conference mates 4 or 5 times each.

The selection committee "ought" to place greater weight on non-conference performance because it is somewhat under the school' (takes two to tango).

St Mary's shouldn't be punished for being stuck in the best conference that will have them as a member but if they load up on cupcakes in non-conference they shouldn't be rewarded for playing a soft non-conference slate.

Another thing they should give more weight to is road games, but that will never happen. Big schools love to play OOC at home.


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They play at home due to economics...why should they sacrifice hundreds of thousands of dollars to play a home n home with a mid-major?

For the same reason some programs play neutral site football games, to bolster post-season credentials unless there is no economic benefit to making the tournament or getting a better seed.

(06-07-2018 03:53 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 03:41 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 02:33 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 02:10 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 12:06 AM)Wedge Wrote:  If Saint Mary's had played Nevada and Rhode Island instead of saying no to those games, they would have been in the NCAA tournament.

That's what SMC will have to do going forward, now that two of the lowest RPI conference games have been taken off of their schedule. Play quality non-conference opponents, even if you have to go on the road or to a neutral-site tournament to play them. And that's what the best teams in these other conferences should do, too, rather than just playing their top 2 conference mates 4 or 5 times each.

The selection committee "ought" to place greater weight on non-conference performance because it is somewhat under the school' (takes two to tango).

St Mary's shouldn't be punished for being stuck in the best conference that will have them as a member but if they load up on cupcakes in non-conference they shouldn't be rewarded for playing a soft non-conference slate.

Another thing they should give more weight to is road games, but that will never happen. Big schools love to play OOC at home.


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They play at home due to economics...why should they sacrifice hundreds of thousands of dollars to play a home n home with a mid-major?

For the same reason some programs play neutral site football games, to bolster post-season credentials unless there is no economic benefit to making the tournament or getting a better seed.

Neutral site games are a whole different animal.

I'm talking about the elite teams have no incentive to play mid-majors home n home. It is mostly about money.

(06-07-2018 04:35 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 03:53 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 03:41 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 02:33 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 02:10 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  The selection committee "ought" to place greater weight on non-conference performance because it is somewhat under the school' (takes two to tango).

St Mary's shouldn't be punished for being stuck in the best conference that will have them as a member but if they load up on cupcakes in non-conference they shouldn't be rewarded for playing a soft non-conference slate.

Another thing they should give more weight to is road games, but that will never happen. Big schools love to play OOC at home.


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They play at home due to economics...why should they sacrifice hundreds of thousands of dollars to play a home n home with a mid-major?

For the same reason some programs play neutral site football games, to bolster post-season credentials unless there is no economic benefit to making the tournament or getting a better seed.

Neutral site games are a whole different animal.

I'm talking about the elite teams have no incentive to play mid-majors home n home. It is mostly about money.

Elite teams don't have to sweat making the Dance or getting a good seed.

Not every P5 is elite. That's why in football you've seen Mizzou at Arkansas State and Iowa State slated in the future, Miami at App St, Wake Forest at ULM, Georgia Tech going to Temple etc.

If middle/bottom pack P5's want bids and good seeds, they better go find them a good neutral site event and consider traveling. I suspect some of the schools camping at home playing Mississippi Valley aren't selling enough tickets to really justify the game guarantee and are doing it because they have other revenue sources and they use that to bolster the record.

(06-07-2018 04:35 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 03:53 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 03:41 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 02:33 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 02:10 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  The selection committee "ought" to place greater weight on non-conference performance because it is somewhat under the school' (takes two to tango).

St Mary's shouldn't be punished for being stuck in the best conference that will have them as a member but if they load up on cupcakes in non-conference they shouldn't be rewarded for playing a soft non-conference slate.

Another thing they should give more weight to is road games, but that will never happen. Big schools love to play OOC at home.


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They play at home due to economics...why should they sacrifice hundreds of thousands of dollars to play a home n home with a mid-major?

For the same reason some programs play neutral site football games, to bolster post-season credentials unless there is no economic benefit to making the tournament or getting a better seed.

Neutral site games are a whole different animal.

I'm talking about the elite teams have no incentive to play mid-majors home n home. It is mostly about money.

Right. So then selection committees shouldn’t penalize mid-major’s who try to schedule these teams but keep getting turned down.

Loyola scheduled NC State and Florida last year. Despite no Richardson and Custer leaving early injured, Loyola still beat Florida without its top 2 players. NC State bought out Loyola at the 11th hour.

This Loyola team finished 27-5, and 25-2 when healthy, with a 22 RPI and 38 KenPom on Selection Sunday, in the 8th RPI league, yet was nowhere near the bubble and seeded behind San Diego St on the committee’s publicly released S-Curve.

Loyola’s 2-3 record in games without its top 2 players (their RPI would’ve been ~14 per rpiforecast sans this stretch and KenPom ~30) was never mentioned while Notre Dame missing Bonzie Colson (they lost to Ball St with him!) was beaten to death. In fact, ND was in until Davidson stole their bid.

It ultimately didn’t matter - Loyola did what they did all season long and advanced to the Final Four. But why such an egregious double standards on so many dimensions? Probably stems from 17% of conferences (6/32) holding 50% (5/10) of power on the committee, no? What’s to hide?

(06-07-2018 12:25 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Cuse was 8-10 in the ACC regular season this year. They won 3 ncaa games and beat a 2 seed in Michigan State at Detroit. They barely lost to Duke for a chance to make the Elite 8. Yet some of arbitrarily want to exclude them. Sorry some conferences and their schedules are worthy enough to take an 8-10 team. Gamecock gets it...many others on this board don't.

Congrats to Syracuse proving their haters wrong.

But in the last 12 years, we have 3 11-seed mid majors making the Final Four and the best a sub-.500 can muster is a Sweet 16?

That’s quite the contrast and reinforces the point:
One Sweet 16 is an outlier
Three Final 4’s is a trend

I know where I’d put my money - wherever the data leads me.

(06-07-2018 07:20 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 12:25 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Cuse was 8-10 in the ACC regular season this year. They won 3 ncaa games and beat a 2 seed in Michigan State at Detroit. They barely lost to Duke for a chance to make the Elite 8. Yet some of arbitrarily want to exclude them. Sorry some conferences and their schedules are worthy enough to take an 8-10 team. Gamecock gets it...many others on this board don't.

Congrats to Syracuse proving their haters wrong.

But in the last 12 years, we have 3 11-seed mid majors making the Final Four and the best a sub-.500 can muster is a Sweet 16?

That’s quite the contrast and reinforces the point:
One Sweet 16 is an outlier
Three Final 4’s is a trend

I know where I’d put my money - wherever the data leads me.

Well how about a 9-10 Cuse Team in 2015-16 against ACC teams that heard the same haters during the selection week that made the F4? And eventually lost to UNC (The National Champs) in the national semi's to finish 10-11 against ACC competition. I'm sorry pat statements stating P5 teams that finish around .500% don't belong are BS.

(06-07-2018 07:09 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Right. So then selection committees shouldn’t penalize mid-major’s who try to schedule these teams but keep getting turned down.

Loyola scheduled NC State and Florida last year. Despite no Richardson and Custer leaving early injured, Loyola still beat Florida without its top 2 players. NC State bought out Loyola at the 11th hour.

This Loyola team finished 27-5, and 25-2 when healthy, with a 22 RPI and 38 KenPom on Selection Sunday, in the 8th RPI league, yet was nowhere near the bubble and seeded behind San Diego St on the committee’s publicly released S-Curve.

Loyola’s 2-3 record in games without its top 2 players (their RPI would’ve been ~14 per rpiforecast sans this stretch and KenPom ~30) was never mentioned while Notre Dame missing Bonzie Colson (they lost to Ball St with him!) was beaten to death. In fact, ND was in until Davidson stole their bid.

It ultimately didn’t matter - Loyola did what they did all season long and advanced to the Final Four. But why such an egregious double standards on so many dimensions? Probably stems from 17% of conferences (6/32) holding 50% (5/10) of power on the committee, no? What’s to hide?

Loyola had the 265th ranked non-conference schedule (via RPI; #315 on kenpom) not even including the non-DI team they played. Even if we're to believe that no power conference team would play them on the road and Loyola shouldn't have take buy games with those schools, they could have loaded up with top tier teams from the American, Atlantic-10, Mountain West, Conference USA, etc. and made a nice schedule, but instead they chose to schedule a bunch of nobodies.

(06-07-2018 08:00 PM)Go College Sports Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 07:09 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Right. So then selection committees shouldn’t penalize mid-major’s who try to schedule these teams but keep getting turned down.

Loyola scheduled NC State and Florida last year. Despite no Richardson and Custer leaving early injured, Loyola still beat Florida without its top 2 players. NC State bought out Loyola at the 11th hour.

This Loyola team finished 27-5, and 25-2 when healthy, with a 22 RPI and 38 KenPom on Selection Sunday, in the 8th RPI league, yet was nowhere near the bubble and seeded behind San Diego St on the committee’s publicly released S-Curve.

Loyola’s 2-3 record in games without its top 2 players (their RPI would’ve been ~14 per rpiforecast sans this stretch and KenPom ~30) was never mentioned while Notre Dame missing Bonzie Colson (they lost to Ball St with him!) was beaten to death. In fact, ND was in until Davidson stole their bid.

It ultimately didn’t matter - Loyola did what they did all season long and advanced to the Final Four. But why such an egregious double standards on so many dimensions? Probably stems from 17% of conferences (6/32) holding 50% (5/10) of power on the committee, no? What’s to hide?

Loyola had the 265th ranked non-conference schedule (via RPI; #315 on kenpom) not even including the non-DI team they played. Even if we're to believe that no power conference team would play them on the road and Loyola shouldn't have take buy games with those schools, they could have loaded up with top tier teams from the American, Atlantic-10, Mountain West, Conference USA, etc. and made a nice schedule, but instead they chose to schedule a bunch of nobodies.

Loyola played Boise and lost by over 30.


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(06-07-2018 07:11 AM)Go College Sports Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 12:16 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 12:06 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 11:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  If the WCC had replaced Pepperdine and Santa Clara on St Mary's schedule with an extra two games each against BYU and Gonzaga, the Gaels are probably in the tournament and Syracuse is sitting at home.

If Saint Mary's had played Nevada and Rhode Island instead of saying no to those games, they would have been in the NCAA tournament.

That's what SMC will have to do going forward, now that two of the lowest RPI conference games have been taken off of their schedule. Play quality non-conference opponents, even if you have to go on the road or to a neutral-site tournament to play them. And that's what the best teams in these other conferences should do, too, rather than just playing their top 2 conference mates 4 or 5 times each.

They will have to schedule better, however they need to schedule those games as home and homes...not take a check to go play someone on the road

In part of the interview he railed heavily about how unfair preseason tournaments are to Mid Majors. Those tournaments are essentially money grabbers, and nothing else. For many only power conference teams can get in, and mid majors are often relegated to smaller events playing a game at a P5 school and then getting sent to the middle of nowhere for two random neutral site games against other mid majors.

In his plan, mid majors would create their own preseason tournaments and base them off of RPI, to ensure of the best matchups for their top teams..

Mid-majors, unless we are defining that group as all 275 schools outside of the power conferences, have plenty of opportunities in preseason tournaments. Middle Tennessee played in the Diamond Head Classic last year, and lost to USC and Miami. St Mary's played in the Wooden Legacy last year, and lost to Washington State and Georgia. If those two teams had won the games they had on the schedule, that would have been two more mid-majors in the at-large field.

I'm glad you managed to find 2 opportunities in the hundreds of games.

The point is, most of the Preseason Tournaments want the P7 to fill it out. They might reserve one spot for a mid major, but that's it. It's an unfair system driven by greed and wealth, which is basically all of what College Athletics is right now.

Chiefsfan---"The point is, most of the Preseason Tournaments want the P7 to fill it out. They might reserve one spot for a mid major, but that's it. It's an unfair system driven by greed and wealth, which is basically all of what College Athletics is right now."


This.This.THIS.

(06-08-2018 12:15 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 07:11 AM)Go College Sports Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 12:16 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 12:06 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 11:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  If the WCC had replaced Pepperdine and Santa Clara on St Mary's schedule with an extra two games each against BYU and Gonzaga, the Gaels are probably in the tournament and Syracuse is sitting at home.

If Saint Mary's had played Nevada and Rhode Island instead of saying no to those games, they would have been in the NCAA tournament.

That's what SMC will have to do going forward, now that two of the lowest RPI conference games have been taken off of their schedule. Play quality non-conference opponents, even if you have to go on the road or to a neutral-site tournament to play them. And that's what the best teams in these other conferences should do, too, rather than just playing their top 2 conference mates 4 or 5 times each.

They will have to schedule better, however they need to schedule those games as home and homes...not take a check to go play someone on the road

In part of the interview he railed heavily about how unfair preseason tournaments are to Mid Majors. Those tournaments are essentially money grabbers, and nothing else. For many only power conference teams can get in, and mid majors are often relegated to smaller events playing a game at a P5 school and then getting sent to the middle of nowhere for two random neutral site games against other mid majors.

In his plan, mid majors would create their own preseason tournaments and base them off of RPI, to ensure of the best matchups for their top teams..

Mid-majors, unless we are defining that group as all 275 schools outside of the power conferences, have plenty of opportunities in preseason tournaments. Middle Tennessee played in the Diamond Head Classic last year, and lost to USC and Miami. St Mary's played in the Wooden Legacy last year, and lost to Washington State and Georgia. If those two teams had won the games they had on the schedule, that would have been two more mid-majors in the at-large field.

I'm glad you managed to find 2 opportunities in the hundreds of games.

The point is, most of the Preseason Tournaments want the P7 to fill it out. They might reserve one spot for a mid major, but that's it. It's an unfair system driven by greed and wealth, which is basically all of what College Athletics is right now.

What does a "fair" system look like?

For 2018 Cal State-Fullerton, Monmouth, St Joseph's, Valpo, Western Kentucky, Appalachian State, Ball State, Davidson, Northeastern, Loyola Marymount, Ohio, Eastern Kentucky, Kennesaw State, Old Dominion, Penn, Northern Iowa, George Washington, Santa Clara, Akron, Boise State, Georgia State, Illinois State, Saint Bonaventure, Gonzaga, San Diego State, VCU, Missouri State, St Mary's, Utah State, Bradley, Wright State, Dayton, Middle Tennessee, Canisius, Charleston, UAB, Fresno State, Grand Canyon, Hawaii, La Salle, George Mason, Bucknell, Charlotte, Indiana State, Rhode Island, and UNLV are all in tournaments with multiple P7 teams.

(06-08-2018 12:15 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 07:11 AM)Go College Sports Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 12:16 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 12:06 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 11:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  If the WCC had replaced Pepperdine and Santa Clara on St Mary's schedule with an extra two games each against BYU and Gonzaga, the Gaels are probably in the tournament and Syracuse is sitting at home.

If Saint Mary's had played Nevada and Rhode Island instead of saying no to those games, they would have been in the NCAA tournament.

That's what SMC will have to do going forward, now that two of the lowest RPI conference games have been taken off of their schedule. Play quality non-conference opponents, even if you have to go on the road or to a neutral-site tournament to play them. And that's what the best teams in these other conferences should do, too, rather than just playing their top 2 conference mates 4 or 5 times each.

They will have to schedule better, however they need to schedule those games as home and homes...not take a check to go play someone on the road

In part of the interview he railed heavily about how unfair preseason tournaments are to Mid Majors. Those tournaments are essentially money grabbers, and nothing else. For many only power conference teams can get in, and mid majors are often relegated to smaller events playing a game at a P5 school and then getting sent to the middle of nowhere for two random neutral site games against other mid majors.

In his plan, mid majors would create their own preseason tournaments and base them off of RPI, to ensure of the best matchups for their top teams..

Mid-majors, unless we are defining that group as all 275 schools outside of the power conferences, have plenty of opportunities in preseason tournaments. Middle Tennessee played in the Diamond Head Classic last year, and lost to USC and Miami. St Mary's played in the Wooden Legacy last year, and lost to Washington State and Georgia. If those two teams had won the games they had on the schedule, that would have been two more mid-majors in the at-large field.

I'm glad you managed to find 2 opportunities in the hundreds of games.

The point is, most of the Preseason Tournaments want the P7 to fill it out. They might reserve one spot for a mid major, but that's it. It's an unfair system driven by greed and wealth, which is basically all of what College Athletics is right now.

We hardly have any trouble in the MVC getting into those tournaments.

(06-07-2018 04:35 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 03:53 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 03:41 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 02:33 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 02:10 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  The selection committee "ought" to place greater weight on non-conference performance because it is somewhat under the school' (takes two to tango).

St Mary's shouldn't be punished for being stuck in the best conference that will have them as a member but if they load up on cupcakes in non-conference they shouldn't be rewarded for playing a soft non-conference slate.

Another thing they should give more weight to is road games, but that will never happen. Big schools love to play OOC at home.


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They play at home due to economics...why should they sacrifice hundreds of thousands of dollars to play a home n home with a mid-major?

For the same reason some programs play neutral site football games, to bolster post-season credentials unless there is no economic benefit to making the tournament or getting a better seed.

Neutral site games are a whole different animal.

I'm talking about the elite teams have no incentive to play mid-majors home n home. It is mostly about money.

When the BIG couldn’t play as many home baseball games due to weather early in the season, they had the NCAA rule changed where the teams in the South loading up on home games get penalized and teams losing on the road aren’t penalized as much. Now we have an adjusted winning percentage used for RPI:
Home win = 0.7 of a win
Home loss = 1.3 losses
Road win = 1.3 wins
Road loss = 0.7 of a loss
Neutral win = 1 win
Neutral loss = 1 loss

I’ve argued for years we need this in basketball. It all comes down to money, I know, but it’s not right that they have the best of both worlds. I love that we are finally making moves to force some positive changes for the “midmajor.”

(06-08-2018 12:35 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 04:35 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 03:53 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 03:41 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-07-2018 02:33 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  Another thing they should give more weight to is road games, but that will never happen. Big schools love to play OOC at home.


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They play at home due to economics...why should they sacrifice hundreds of thousands of dollars to play a home n home with a mid-major?

For the same reason some programs play neutral site football games, to bolster post-season credentials unless there is no economic benefit to making the tournament or getting a better seed.

Neutral site games are a whole different animal.

I'm talking about the elite teams have no incentive to play mid-majors home n home. It is mostly about money.

When the BIG couldn’t play as many home baseball games due to weather early in the season, they had the NCAA rule changed where the teams in the South loading up on home games get penalized and teams losing on the road aren’t penalized as much. Now we have an adjusted winning percentage used for RPI:
Home win = 0.7 of a win
Home loss = 1.3 losses
Road win = 1.3 wins
Road loss = 0.7 of a loss
Neutral win = 1 win
Neutral loss = 1 loss

I’ve argued for years we need this in basketball. It all comes down to money, I know, but it’s not right that they have the best of both worlds. I love that we are finally making moves to force some positive changes for the “midmajor.”

They are doing something like that in basketball. Away Victories are worth more.

This is the reason why Cuse was able to get St, Bona, ODU and Buffalo to play guarantee games at the Carrier Dome.

They've done it for over a decade in college basketball.