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RE: "T-shirt fans" in Europe
(06-12-2018 09:38 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(06-10-2018 04:31 PM)McKinney Wrote:  
(06-10-2018 04:19 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(06-05-2018 05:27 PM)McKinney Wrote:  
(06-05-2018 04:50 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  That doesn't make a lot of sense. Not a lot of international flights going out of Kansas City and St Louis compared to New York.

I no clue if tri-state area people don't travel that much, but could it be... maybe folks don't have as much disposable income for travel since they have some of the cost of living in the country? Or maybe since NYC is a melting pot of soooo many cultures they feel they can get a sufficient taste?

Oh come on guys, this is a well-known phenomenon. Some books about regionalism in America go so far as to call northeasterners "provincial" for their relative lack of interest in anything outside their region. The New Yorker magazine even published a famous cover about it back in the 70s:

[Image: Steinberg_New_Yorker_Cover.png]

What percent of New Yorkers have visited Minneapolis, Liverpool, or Dusseldorf? Hint: it's a lot fewer than the percent that visit in the reverse direction.

Surely there's the possibility that has changed. I mean when accounting for inflation it's about half the cost to fly today than it was in the 70s. https://www.theatlantic.com/business/arc...ed/273506/

In 1965 8 out of 10 Americans had never been on a plane. Today the inverse is true: only 2 out of 10 Americans have never been on a plane. http://content.time.com/time/magazine/ar...12,00.html
https://www.airspacemag.com/daily-planet...180957719/

To be sure, I don't think New Yorkers are really less traveled than other Americans. If anything, they're actually more likely to have traveled to Europe and other international destinations because of shorter distances and direct flight availability. (Note that it's not much farther to travel from NYC to London compared to NYC to Los Angeles.)

My opinion of a New Yorker is someone who can tell you 15 ways to get from Columbus Circle to Soho but can't find Wisconsin on a map.
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RE: "T-shirt fans" in Europe
How is a European guy wearing Yankees gear any different than a guy in Ohio wearing a Real Madrid jersey?
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(06-22-2018 06:06 AM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  How is a European guy wearing Yankees gear any different than a guy in Ohio wearing a Real Madrid jersey?

The guy in Ohio is more likely to actually follow the team and be a fan.

There's lots of soccer fans who grew up in the USA, played soccer, and follow the sport religiously. How many Europeans played baseball as a kid?

There's a lot of immigrants in Ohio from Europe or Spanish-speaking countries who are big soccer fans. How many American/Japanese/Cuban immigrants are in Europe?
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(06-22-2018 08:47 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(06-22-2018 06:06 AM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  How is a European guy wearing Yankees gear any different than a guy in Ohio wearing a Real Madrid jersey?

The guy in Ohio is more likely to actually follow the team and be a fan.

There's lots of soccer fans who grew up in the USA, played soccer, and follow the sport religiously. How many Europeans played baseball as a kid?

There's a lot of immigrants in Ohio from Europe or Spanish-speaking countries who are big soccer fans. How many American/Japanese/Cuban immigrants are in Europe?

Not many. Too hard to get a permanent visa (and too expensive to live there to make it worth the effort).
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