(06-23-2018 06:30 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  Lomax has been described as a guy who can defend 1-4. At east he was assigned to guard the oppositions best player. At the team USA tryouts he was described as a tenacious defender like his life depended on it.

He will not be guarding decent size 3s or 4s at all in high D1 unless it’s a bad switch.

(06-23-2018 07:16 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-23-2018 06:30 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  Lomax has been described as a guy who can defend 1-4. At east he was assigned to guard the oppositions best player. At the team USA tryouts he was described as a tenacious defender like his life depended on it.

He will not be guarding decent size 3s or 4s at all in high D1 unless it’s a bad switch.

I didn't say he would. But Martin isn't a 3 or 4 and to say he can't even guard his teammate is laughable.

(06-23-2018 03:09 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-23-2018 10:51 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(06-23-2018 09:42 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

Love hearing that. When Martin gets back I'm sure practice will be even more intense. Lomax guarding JM would probably be fun to watch.

We need to hope Lomax doesn’t have to guard many 6’4” guards who are good at slashing and creating layups like Martin. I love Lomax. I been saying he is undervalued but that’s a bad matchup for him.

If Alo cannot guard 6'4 guards we shouldn't have recruited him...

Honestly I see Alo being a defender similar to Marcus Smart with the Celtics...Strong, Tenacious and quick where he should be able to give many people fits.

A smallish backcourt of Lomax and Harris will certainly on paper provide a defensive liability against quick, strong, tall, good ball handling guards. Fortunately, most of the players with those characteristics play in the NBA.

Getting more excited by the day.

(06-24-2018 07:48 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  A smallish backcourt of Lomax and Harris will certainly on paper provide a defensive liability against quick, strong, tall, good ball handling guards. Fortunately, most of the players with those characteristics play in the NBA.

Exactly...

I don't recall Joe Jackson being a poor defender

(06-24-2018 06:48 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(06-23-2018 07:16 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-23-2018 06:30 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  Lomax has been described as a guy who can defend 1-4. At east he was assigned to guard the oppositions best player. At the team USA tryouts he was described as a tenacious defender like his life depended on it.

He will not be guarding decent size 3s or 4s at all in high D1 unless it’s a bad switch.

I didn't say he would. But Martin isn't a 3 or 4 and to say he can't even guard his teammate is laughable.

Martin could post him up all day long and I love Lomax. Been talking him up since he came back home.

(06-24-2018 08:45 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-24-2018 06:48 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(06-23-2018 07:16 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-23-2018 06:30 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  Lomax has been described as a guy who can defend 1-4. At east he was assigned to guard the oppositions best player. At the team USA tryouts he was described as a tenacious defender like his life depended on it.

He will not be guarding decent size 3s or 4s at all in high D1 unless it’s a bad switch.

I didn't say he would. But Martin isn't a 3 or 4 and to say he can't even guard his teammate is laughable.

Martin could post him up all day long and I love Lomax. Been talking him up since he came back home.

Martin can shoot over Lomax...Yes that is likely true.

I seriously doubt he will be able to get good post position against Lomax due to Alo's strength and his ability to push him away from the goal.

BTW how many guards still post...Guy from Nova last year was an anomaly.

(06-23-2018 09:42 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

I wonder is Penny including Maurice in when he speaks of the "freshmen?" We knew the guards had ability but what about the big men?

(06-24-2018 11:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-24-2018 08:45 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-24-2018 06:48 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(06-23-2018 07:16 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-23-2018 06:30 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  Lomax has been described as a guy who can defend 1-4. At east he was assigned to guard the oppositions best player. At the team USA tryouts he was described as a tenacious defender like his life depended on it.

He will not be guarding decent size 3s or 4s at all in high D1 unless it’s a bad switch.

I didn't say he would. But Martin isn't a 3 or 4 and to say he can't even guard his teammate is laughable.

Martin could post him up all day long and I love Lomax. Been talking him up since he came back home.

Martin can shoot over Lomax...Yes that is likely true.

I seriously doubt he will be able to get good post position against Lomax due to Alo's strength and his ability to push him away from the goal.

BTW how many guards still post...Guy from Nova last year was an anomaly.

Too much zone being played though if Penny wants to recruit top 25 players he won’t play much zone. But Skinny Penny used to post up 6-3 and 6-4 bulldogs every game it seemed.

(06-24-2018 08:45 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-24-2018 06:48 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(06-23-2018 07:16 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-23-2018 06:30 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  Lomax has been described as a guy who can defend 1-4. At east he was assigned to guard the oppositions best player. At the team USA tryouts he was described as a tenacious defender like his life depended on it.

He will not be guarding decent size 3s or 4s at all in high D1 unless it’s a bad switch.

I didn't say he would. But Martin isn't a 3 or 4 and to say he can't even guard his teammate is laughable.

Martin could post him up all day long and I love Lomax. Been talking him up since he came back home.

You are seriously underestimating Lomax. Have you ever watched him even play? And it's not like every team is going to post up their guards cause Lomax is on our team.

Here was one observer's take on Lomax guarding top tier guards much bigger than him during Team USA U18 tryouts. Keep in mind nearly everyone selected to the team was a top 25 recruit nationally. Smallest guard listed is 6'2.

Quote:Alex Lomax has come out with a purpose tonight. Future Memphis facilitator is the definition of tough. Making shots, defending and creating for others. A sure fire four year to kickstart the Penny Hardaway

(06-25-2018 05:18 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(06-24-2018 08:45 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-24-2018 06:48 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(06-23-2018 07:16 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-23-2018 06:30 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  Lomax has been described as a guy who can defend 1-4. At east he was assigned to guard the oppositions best player. At the team USA tryouts he was described as a tenacious defender like his life depended on it.

He will not be guarding decent size 3s or 4s at all in high D1 unless it’s a bad switch.

I didn't say he would. But Martin isn't a 3 or 4 and to say he can't even guard his teammate is laughable.

Martin could post him up all day long and I love Lomax. Been talking him up since he came back home.

You are seriously underestimating Lomax. Have you ever watched him even play? And it's not like every team is going to post up their guards cause Lomax is on our team.

Lomax weighed in at 196 lbs and had a plus wingspan (6'2") in most recent measurements for Team USA. Martin is listed at 6'3" and 186 and has never shown a post game. He ain't easily posting up Lomax on the regular. If Lomax grows another inch or two and gets even 10% more explosive with a college strength/conditioning program he will be a lockdown monster at the college level.

(06-25-2018 05:18 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(06-24-2018 08:45 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-24-2018 06:48 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(06-23-2018 07:16 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-23-2018 06:30 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  Lomax has been described as a guy who can defend 1-4. At east he was assigned to guard the oppositions best player. At the team USA tryouts he was described as a tenacious defender like his life depended on it.

He will not be guarding decent size 3s or 4s at all in high D1 unless it’s a bad switch.

I didn't say he would. But Martin isn't a 3 or 4 and to say he can't even guard his teammate is laughable.

Martin could post him up all day long and I love Lomax. Been talking him up since he came back home.

You are seriously underestimating Lomax. Have you ever watched him even play? And it's not like every team is going to post up their guards cause Lomax is on our team.

I have watched Lomax play 4-5 full games. He is a pure PG who will make others better. Not great at anything but a solid performer. Exactly what we need for this season. That being said, I'm 6'4" and I was at least 4 if not 5 inches taller. He physique reminds me of Alvin Wright who played us in high school-the greatest team in TN history (they had a 60 some odd game winning streak) with Wright, John Gunn (who was better than Wiseman) and crazy James Bradley who shot 30-35 footers (not exaggerating) in high school with no 3 pt shot. Those 3 were men in high school. I hate to think what they would have looked like with a good weight program.

(06-24-2018 11:36 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-24-2018 11:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-24-2018 08:45 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-24-2018 06:48 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(06-23-2018 07:16 PM)Shooters Wrote:  He will not be guarding decent size 3s or 4s at all in high D1 unless it’s a bad switch.

I didn't say he would. But Martin isn't a 3 or 4 and to say he can't even guard his teammate is laughable.

Martin could post him up all day long and I love Lomax. Been talking him up since he came back home.

Martin can shoot over Lomax...Yes that is likely true.

I seriously doubt he will be able to get good post position against Lomax due to Alo's strength and his ability to push him away from the goal.

BTW how many guards still post...Guy from Nova last year was an anomaly.

Too much zone being played though if Penny wants to recruit top 25 players he won’t play much zone. But Skinny Penny used to post up 6-3 and 6-4 bulldogs every game it seemed.

yep, and skinny penny was one of the 2-3 best guards in the country. A few teams MAY have someone who can post him up, but for most teams their PG has no post moves and few plays to get him the ball in the post, so the height advantage is not important.

(06-25-2018 10:45 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-25-2018 05:18 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(06-24-2018 08:45 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-24-2018 06:48 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(06-23-2018 07:16 PM)Shooters Wrote:  He will not be guarding decent size 3s or 4s at all in high D1 unless it’s a bad switch.

I didn't say he would. But Martin isn't a 3 or 4 and to say he can't even guard his teammate is laughable.

Martin could post him up all day long and I love Lomax. Been talking him up since he came back home.

You are seriously underestimating Lomax. Have you ever watched him even play? And it's not like every team is going to post up their guards cause Lomax is on our team.

I have watched Lomax play 4-5 full games. He is a pure PG who will make others better. Not great at anything but a solid performer. Exactly what we need for this season. That being said, I'm 6'4" and I was at least 4 if not 5 inches taller. He physique reminds me of Alvin Wright who played us in high school-the greatest team in TN history (they had a 60 some odd game winning streak) with Wright, John Gunn (who was better than Wiseman) and crazy James Bradley who shot 30-35 footers (not exaggerating) in high school with no 3 pt shot. Those 3 were men in high school. I hate to think what they would have looked like with a good weight program.

WTH does any of that have to do with this conversation. Did you feel like bragging or something...Just strange.

(06-25-2018 11:23 AM)Oman Wrote:  

(06-24-2018 11:36 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-24-2018 11:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-24-2018 08:45 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-24-2018 06:48 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  I didn't say he would. But Martin isn't a 3 or 4 and to say he can't even guard his teammate is laughable.

Martin could post him up all day long and I love Lomax. Been talking him up since he came back home.

Martin can shoot over Lomax...Yes that is likely true.

I seriously doubt he will be able to get good post position against Lomax due to Alo's strength and his ability to push him away from the goal.

BTW how many guards still post...Guy from Nova last year was an anomaly.

Too much zone being played though if Penny wants to recruit top 25 players he won’t play much zone. But Skinny Penny used to post up 6-3 and 6-4 bulldogs every game it seemed.

yep, and skinny penny was one of the 2-3 best guards in the country. A few teams MAY have someone who can post him up, but for most teams their PG has no post moves and few plays to get him the ball in the post, so the height advantage is not important.

Penny was playing point and posting up guys in the NBA as well (That is where he was going up against 6-3 and 6-4 guards regularly)...And he wasn't going up against too many big guards in college at all.

(06-25-2018 01:33 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-25-2018 10:45 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-25-2018 05:18 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(06-24-2018 08:45 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(06-24-2018 06:48 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  I didn't say he would. But Martin isn't a 3 or 4 and to say he can't even guard his teammate is laughable.

Martin could post him up all day long and I love Lomax. Been talking him up since he came back home.

You are seriously underestimating Lomax. Have you ever watched him even play? And it's not like every team is going to post up their guards cause Lomax is on our team.

I have watched Lomax play 4-5 full games. He is a pure PG who will make others better. Not great at anything but a solid performer. Exactly what we need for this season. That being said, I'm 6'4" and I was at least 4 if not 5 inches taller. He physique reminds me of Alvin Wright who played us in high school-the greatest team in TN history (they had a 60 some odd game winning streak) with Wright, John Gunn (who was better than Wiseman) and crazy James Bradley who shot 30-35 footers (not exaggerating) in high school with no 3 pt shot. Those 3 were men in high school. I hate to think what they would have looked like with a good weight program.

WTH does any of that have to do with this conversation. Did you feel like bragging or something...Just strange.

Just so you know, PennyLane, aka Shooters, is the Tigers self professed number one fan.

John Gunn was not better than Wiseman and James Bradley was wild and out of control most the time taking crazy shots. Alvin Wright was good but not one of the top 5 Tiger point guards.

Lomax reminds me more of a better version of Andre Allen. Nice , physical, super quick point guard.

Loved JG, God rest his soul but John Gunn better than James Wiseman? No just no. Not even close.