(06-14-2018 12:16 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-13-2018 11:29 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-13-2018 07:25 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-13-2018 05:31 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-13-2018 12:40 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Very wishful thinking, the only evidence has been to the contrary. I haven't seen any other schools have a discussion.

"Tulane’s Senate discussed the media negotiations in some detail in March and didn’t give reason to expect a material net gain on the next deal. Sounds like a new deal will involve schools bearing production facilities costs, increasing pub but canceling out additional payout"

https://twitter.com/ryanscjones/status/1...6080754688

I'd be curious as to the context of those comments as the UCF AD just said the following today---

“I don’t know how the first five years of our conference could have gone any better, with across-the-board success, particularly in football,” White said. “Whether you look at television ratings, competitive success, New Year’s Day bowl wins, we’ve way outperformed.

“I think our current deal is way undervalued, and everybody understands that. We’re all really confident we’ll get a much more significant television deal that puts us on par with where we should be, with the Power 6 conferences.”


https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co...e-power-6/


It may be that the Tulane AD is discussing the 2019-2020 budget. If there were to be a new deal where the AAC had a ESPN+ component---the extra money wouldnt kick in until 2020-2021. But the schools would have to upgrade their production facilities in the 2019-2020 budget cycle in order to be ready to provide ESPN+ streams in 2020-2021. ESPN would probably provide some money to help---but "revenue would not increase dramatically" in that 2019-2020 cycle while facility upgrade expenses would go up significantly....and there would be nothing Tulane could do unilaterally to change that.

btw---I think Danny White is way too optimistic. I dont see the AAC getting anything close to currrent P5 levels. Im guessing 6-8 million a team---which is only about 25% of the current going rate for P5's (in the most recent P5 deal, the B10 got about 29 million a team--which doesnt count Big10 Network income).

Lol what does the Big 10 have to do with anything?
You do realize the whole AAC conference combined is worth less than 25% of 1 team in the Big 10.... Ohio State 1.5 billion
That’s like me comparing my net worth to Warren Buffet or Zuckerburg

The recent talk from MWC commissioner about less monetary contract from ESPN and CBS and more streaming would be more appropriate comparision. Even though AAC doesn’t have the late games starts, expect a similar package

Wall Street Journal:
AAC Conference (all schools combined) - 370 million

Big Ten
Ohio State 1.5 Billion
Michigan 893 million
Penn State 550 million
Nebraska 507 million
Iowa 483 million
Wisconsin 440 million
Michigan State 330 million
Minnesota 260 million
Indiana 178 million
Northwestern 163 million
Maryland 147 million
Illinois 143 million
Purdue 135 million

***Notre Dame 856 million***

Which has nothing to do with the next AAC deal. In 2013, when the last AAC contract was inked, a bitcoin was worth $13.41. Today, its worth about $6,500. lol...just last December it was worth a little over $19,000.

Things change in value over time based upon changes in how a good or service is perceived by the marketplace. We will find out if there has been any change in the AAC perception in the next 12 months. But in just the last few months---the Sunbelt quadrupled its payout...CUSA doubled its payout in just 2 years (maybe more if the ESPN deal has some cash value)...UFC appears to be close to tripling their deal when the expected linear portion of the package is signed....and WWF just signed a 470 million dollar deal for Raw and Smackdown---two properties that had a combined "worth" of just $170 million per the existing contract. I think the AAC is going to do well.

It will be interesting to see how these contract negotiations play out over the next 12 months or so.

Doubled lol, that’s after a decline from 15.4 to 2.8 million tv contract in 2016.

None that has a basis in the reality that the lost of TV subscribers has cost ESPN billions, in 2014 revenue was 6.4 billion and is projected to be close to 2 billion next fiscal year.

So if it is not coming from ESPN, how are the other Cable Sports channels doing?

This is from May:
ESPN: -500K households
FS1: -328K households
Golf Channel: -505K
NBCSN: -544K
NFLN: -842K (Comcast kicked it up a tier with the Fox TNF news)

Not any better, all this has happen since the AAC contract was negotiated in 2013

Who do think is going to bid up the price? Just curious, I really don’t understand the pie in the sky/head in the sand mentality.

Of course I would like CUSA TV contract to be more but also realize that using the Big 10 contract as basis for our contract is absurd and has no basis in reality

The 2016 decline was due to that being the first open market renegotiation for CUSA rights after the 2011-2013 realignment. Same thing happened to the AAC when they had to negotiate immediately following realignment in 2013. Due to membership changes, the AAC/Big East deal went from 4 million a team to 2 million a team--a 50% cut. Worse yet, the Big East had rejected a 10 million a team offer in April of 2011. So you could make the case the value of the conference actually fell 80% after the membership changes.

Yes, subscribers are declining. So what. I just gave you 4 deals in the last few months. Every single one doubled--tripled--or better. The data is the data. Sports values are continuing to rise. Content is king. Nobody watches ESPN to see the talking heads. They go there to see the games.

Content is king, but in general people want to see the best college teams, not the ones outside the P5. The data proving that already exists with the huge difference in money each conference is getting. The contracts between P5 schools doesn't necessarily mean anything for those conferences with fewer following and widely considered substandard to them. Just wondering if I'm missing something? This seems obvious.

(06-14-2018 01:14 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-14-2018 12:16 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-13-2018 11:29 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-13-2018 07:25 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-13-2018 05:31 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I'd be curious as to the context of those comments as the UCF AD just said the following today---

“I don’t know how the first five years of our conference could have gone any better, with across-the-board success, particularly in football,” White said. “Whether you look at television ratings, competitive success, New Year’s Day bowl wins, we’ve way outperformed.

“I think our current deal is way undervalued, and everybody understands that. We’re all really confident we’ll get a much more significant television deal that puts us on par with where we should be, with the Power 6 conferences.”


https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co...e-power-6/


It may be that the Tulane AD is discussing the 2019-2020 budget. If there were to be a new deal where the AAC had a ESPN+ component---the extra money wouldnt kick in until 2020-2021. But the schools would have to upgrade their production facilities in the 2019-2020 budget cycle in order to be ready to provide ESPN+ streams in 2020-2021. ESPN would probably provide some money to help---but "revenue would not increase dramatically" in that 2019-2020 cycle while facility upgrade expenses would go up significantly....and there would be nothing Tulane could do unilaterally to change that.

btw---I think Danny White is way too optimistic. I dont see the AAC getting anything close to currrent P5 levels. Im guessing 6-8 million a team---which is only about 25% of the current going rate for P5's (in the most recent P5 deal, the B10 got about 29 million a team--which doesnt count Big10 Network income).

Lol what does the Big 10 have to do with anything?
You do realize the whole AAC conference combined is worth less than 25% of 1 team in the Big 10.... Ohio State 1.5 billion
That’s like me comparing my net worth to Warren Buffet or Zuckerburg

The recent talk from MWC commissioner about less monetary contract from ESPN and CBS and more streaming would be more appropriate comparision. Even though AAC doesn’t have the late games starts, expect a similar package

Wall Street Journal:
AAC Conference (all schools combined) - 370 million

Big Ten
Ohio State 1.5 Billion
Michigan 893 million
Penn State 550 million
Nebraska 507 million
Iowa 483 million
Wisconsin 440 million
Michigan State 330 million
Minnesota 260 million
Indiana 178 million
Northwestern 163 million
Maryland 147 million
Illinois 143 million
Purdue 135 million

***Notre Dame 856 million***

Which has nothing to do with the next AAC deal. In 2013, when the last AAC contract was inked, a bitcoin was worth $13.41. Today, its worth about $6,500. lol...just last December it was worth a little over $19,000.

Things change in value over time based upon changes in how a good or service is perceived by the marketplace. We will find out if there has been any change in the AAC perception in the next 12 months. But in just the last few months---the Sunbelt quadrupled its payout...CUSA doubled its payout in just 2 years (maybe more if the ESPN deal has some cash value)...UFC appears to be close to tripling their deal when the expected linear portion of the package is signed....and WWF just signed a 470 million dollar deal for Raw and Smackdown---two properties that had a combined "worth" of just $170 million per the existing contract. I think the AAC is going to do well.

It will be interesting to see how these contract negotiations play out over the next 12 months or so.

Doubled lol, that’s after a decline from 15.4 to 2.8 million tv contract in 2016.

None that has a basis in the reality that the lost of TV subscribers has cost ESPN billions, in 2014 revenue was 6.4 billion and is projected to be close to 2 billion next fiscal year.

So if it is not coming from ESPN, how are the other Cable Sports channels doing?

This is from May:
ESPN: -500K households
FS1: -328K households
Golf Channel: -505K
NBCSN: -544K
NFLN: -842K (Comcast kicked it up a tier with the Fox TNF news)

Not any better, all this has happen since the AAC contract was negotiated in 2013

Who do think is going to bid up the price? Just curious, I really don’t understand the pie in the sky/head in the sand mentality.

Of course I would like CUSA TV contract to be more but also realize that using the Big 10 contract as basis for our contract is absurd and has no basis in reality

The 2016 decline was due to that being the first open market renegotiation for CUSA rights after the 2011-2013 realignment. Same thing happened to the AAC when they had to negotiate immediately following realignment in 2013. Due to membership changes, the AAC/Big East deal went from 4 million a team to 2 million a team--a 50% cut. Worse yet, the Big East had rejected a 10 million a team offer in April of 2011. So you could make the case the value of the conference actually fell 80% after the membership changes.

Yes, subscribers are declining. So what. I just gave you 4 deals in the last few months. Every single one doubled--tripled--or better. The data is the data. Sports values are continuing to rise. Content is king. Nobody watches ESPN to see the talking heads. They go there to see the games.

Your data comparision is severely flawed.

Do you know what the Sunbelt is making because it has not been publicize and before they were making what 100k per team so now they are making 200k.

CUSA contract fell by almost 80% in 2016, so now that have gone to other streaming venues to see a slight increase.

If you look at the opinions of consultants and lawyers that have negotiated billion dollar tv contracts it is starkly different


The reckoning: When rights-fee bubble bursts, college sports will be changed forever



It was a nice model," says Frank Hawkins, principal of Scalar Media Partners, a Manhattan sports and media consulting firm, "but it isn't going to last."


The divide between the schools from the Power 5 conferences and the rest will widen. Nameplates, not 43-inch monitors, will festoon lockers. There will be fewer $600,000 strength coaches. Football players will have to nap in their dorm rooms. "The athletic department of tomorrow," says Hawkins, "could go through what Bristol is going through today."

present for the negotiations chuckles when he recalls ESPN's most recent NBA contract. "If that deal was being done today, it would look much different.... We're talking 30%-less different.

(06-14-2018 10:15 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-14-2018 01:14 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-14-2018 12:16 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-13-2018 11:29 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-13-2018 07:25 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Lol what does the Big 10 have to do with anything?
You do realize the whole AAC conference combined is worth less than 25% of 1 team in the Big 10.... Ohio State 1.5 billion
That’s like me comparing my net worth to Warren Buffet or Zuckerburg

The recent talk from MWC commissioner about less monetary contract from ESPN and CBS and more streaming would be more appropriate comparision. Even though AAC doesn’t have the late games starts, expect a similar package

Wall Street Journal:
AAC Conference (all schools combined) - 370 million

Big Ten
Ohio State 1.5 Billion
Michigan 893 million
Penn State 550 million
Nebraska 507 million
Iowa 483 million
Wisconsin 440 million
Michigan State 330 million
Minnesota 260 million
Indiana 178 million
Northwestern 163 million
Maryland 147 million
Illinois 143 million
Purdue 135 million

***Notre Dame 856 million***

Which has nothing to do with the next AAC deal. In 2013, when the last AAC contract was inked, a bitcoin was worth $13.41. Today, its worth about $6,500. lol...just last December it was worth a little over $19,000.

Things change in value over time based upon changes in how a good or service is perceived by the marketplace. We will find out if there has been any change in the AAC perception in the next 12 months. But in just the last few months---the Sunbelt quadrupled its payout...CUSA doubled its payout in just 2 years (maybe more if the ESPN deal has some cash value)...UFC appears to be close to tripling their deal when the expected linear portion of the package is signed....and WWF just signed a 470 million dollar deal for Raw and Smackdown---two properties that had a combined "worth" of just $170 million per the existing contract. I think the AAC is going to do well.

It will be interesting to see how these contract negotiations play out over the next 12 months or so.

Doubled lol, that’s after a decline from 15.4 to 2.8 million tv contract in 2016.

None that has a basis in the reality that the lost of TV subscribers has cost ESPN billions, in 2014 revenue was 6.4 billion and is projected to be close to 2 billion next fiscal year.

So if it is not coming from ESPN, how are the other Cable Sports channels doing?

This is from May:
ESPN: -500K households
FS1: -328K households
Golf Channel: -505K
NBCSN: -544K
NFLN: -842K (Comcast kicked it up a tier with the Fox TNF news)

Not any better, all this has happen since the AAC contract was negotiated in 2013

Who do think is going to bid up the price? Just curious, I really don’t understand the pie in the sky/head in the sand mentality.

Of course I would like CUSA TV contract to be more but also realize that using the Big 10 contract as basis for our contract is absurd and has no basis in reality

The 2016 decline was due to that being the first open market renegotiation for CUSA rights after the 2011-2013 realignment. Same thing happened to the AAC when they had to negotiate immediately following realignment in 2013. Due to membership changes, the AAC/Big East deal went from 4 million a team to 2 million a team--a 50% cut. Worse yet, the Big East had rejected a 10 million a team offer in April of 2011. So you could make the case the value of the conference actually fell 80% after the membership changes.

Yes, subscribers are declining. So what. I just gave you 4 deals in the last few months. Every single one doubled--tripled--or better. The data is the data. Sports values are continuing to rise. Content is king. Nobody watches ESPN to see the talking heads. They go there to see the games.

Your data comparision is severely flawed.

Do you know what the Sunbelt is making because it has not been publicize and before they were making what 100k per team so now they are making 200k.

CUSA contract fell by almost 80% in 2016, so now that have gone to other streaming venues to see a slight increase.

If you look at the opinions of consultants and lawyers that have negotiated billion dollar tv contracts it is starkly different


The reckoning: When rights-fee bubble bursts, college sports will be changed forever



It was a nice model," says Frank Hawkins, principal of Scalar Media Partners, a Manhattan sports and media consulting firm, "but it isn't going to last."


The divide between the schools from the Power 5 conferences and the rest will widen. Nameplates, not 43-inch monitors, will festoon lockers. There will be fewer $600,000 strength coaches. Football players will have to nap in their dorm rooms. "The athletic department of tomorrow," says Hawkins, "could go through what Bristol is going through today."

present for the negotiations chuckles when he recalls ESPN's most recent NBA contract. "If that deal was being done today, it would look much different.... We're talking 30%-less different.

lol...his job is to pay as little for content as possible. So, I mean--believe what he says if you like---even though the NBA season just broke a bunch of TV ratings records this year--- Im sure its value has fallen 30%. Regardless, the facts are the amounts being paid in deals where people are actually putting their money on the table are rising.

NBA record attendance in 2018
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/12/nba-has-...ptick.html

NBA Western Final Breaks Viewship Records
https://variety.com/2016/tv/news/nba-gam...201785911/

Cavs/Celtics Breaks TV Ratings Record For ESPN
http://slackiebrown.com/cavs-celtics-bre...-for-espn/

(06-14-2018 11:31 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-14-2018 10:15 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-14-2018 01:14 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-14-2018 12:16 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-13-2018 11:29 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Which has nothing to do with the next AAC deal. In 2013, when the last AAC contract was inked, a bitcoin was worth $13.41. Today, its worth about $6,500. lol...just last December it was worth a little over $19,000.

Things change in value over time based upon changes in how a good or service is perceived by the marketplace. We will find out if there has been any change in the AAC perception in the next 12 months. But in just the last few months---the Sunbelt quadrupled its payout...CUSA doubled its payout in just 2 years (maybe more if the ESPN deal has some cash value)...UFC appears to be close to tripling their deal when the expected linear portion of the package is signed....and WWF just signed a 470 million dollar deal for Raw and Smackdown---two properties that had a combined "worth" of just $170 million per the existing contract. I think the AAC is going to do well.

It will be interesting to see how these contract negotiations play out over the next 12 months or so.

Doubled lol, that’s after a decline from 15.4 to 2.8 million tv contract in 2016.

None that has a basis in the reality that the lost of TV subscribers has cost ESPN billions, in 2014 revenue was 6.4 billion and is projected to be close to 2 billion next fiscal year.

So if it is not coming from ESPN, how are the other Cable Sports channels doing?

This is from May:
ESPN: -500K households
FS1: -328K households
Golf Channel: -505K
NBCSN: -544K
NFLN: -842K (Comcast kicked it up a tier with the Fox TNF news)

Not any better, all this has happen since the AAC contract was negotiated in 2013

Who do think is going to bid up the price? Just curious, I really don’t understand the pie in the sky/head in the sand mentality.

Of course I would like CUSA TV contract to be more but also realize that using the Big 10 contract as basis for our contract is absurd and has no basis in reality

The 2016 decline was due to that being the first open market renegotiation for CUSA rights after the 2011-2013 realignment. Same thing happened to the AAC when they had to negotiate immediately following realignment in 2013. Due to membership changes, the AAC/Big East deal went from 4 million a team to 2 million a team--a 50% cut. Worse yet, the Big East had rejected a 10 million a team offer in April of 2011. So you could make the case the value of the conference actually fell 80% after the membership changes.

Yes, subscribers are declining. So what. I just gave you 4 deals in the last few months. Every single one doubled--tripled--or better. The data is the data. Sports values are continuing to rise. Content is king. Nobody watches ESPN to see the talking heads. They go there to see the games.

Your data comparision is severely flawed.

Do you know what the Sunbelt is making because it has not been publicize and before they were making what 100k per team so now they are making 200k.

CUSA contract fell by almost 80% in 2016, so now that have gone to other streaming venues to see a slight increase.

If you look at the opinions of consultants and lawyers that have negotiated billion dollar tv contracts it is starkly different


The reckoning: When rights-fee bubble bursts, college sports will be changed forever



It was a nice model," says Frank Hawkins, principal of Scalar Media Partners, a Manhattan sports and media consulting firm, "but it isn't going to last."


The divide between the schools from the Power 5 conferences and the rest will widen. Nameplates, not 43-inch monitors, will festoon lockers. There will be fewer $600,000 strength coaches. Football players will have to nap in their dorm rooms. "The athletic department of tomorrow," says Hawkins, "could go through what Bristol is going through today."

present for the negotiations chuckles when he recalls ESPN's most recent NBA contract. "If that deal was being done today, it would look much different.... We're talking 30%-less different.

lol...his job is to pay as little for content as possible. So, I mean--believe what he says if you like---even though the NBA season just broke a bunch of TV ratings records this year--- Im sure its value has fallen 30%. Regardless, the facts are the amounts being paid in deals where people are actually putting their money on the table are rising.

NBA record attendance in 2018
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/12/nba-has-...ptick.html

NBA Western Final Breaks Viewship Records
https://variety.com/2016/tv/news/nba-gam...201785911/

Cavs/Celtics Breaks TV Ratings Record For ESPN
http://slackiebrown.com/cavs-celtics-bre...-for-espn/

No, Scalar was a consultant for the NBA. Would rather believe someone that help negotiate a billion dollar TV contract?

The landscape was change and ESPN has been a drag on DIS, losing millions subscribers, over 4 Billion in lost revenue and laying off hundreds employees.

The facts are that CUSA lost 80% of it's TV contract in this environment and You have no evidence of the new Sunbelt Contract. Yep the "facts are facts"

"No financial details were available"
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/co...story.html

(06-13-2018 08:18 AM)odu09 Wrote:  Oh no, what have you done?? Sunbelt lurkers will return and point to these numbers to tell us that their conference is better than ours.

(06-13-2018 10:08 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  Tell me again why CUSA hasn't fired Judy?

If I'm not mistaken, I think a lot of the current/past CUSA money not mentioned here has to do with receiving equipment/funding and tactics for streaming(in this age) from streaming companies(like espn, bein, etc) instead of "Real money' that is not mentioned here???


I hope someone can explain it better

(06-14-2018 11:59 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-14-2018 11:31 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-14-2018 10:15 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-14-2018 01:14 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-14-2018 12:16 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Doubled lol, that’s after a decline from 15.4 to 2.8 million tv contract in 2016.

None that has a basis in the reality that the lost of TV subscribers has cost ESPN billions, in 2014 revenue was 6.4 billion and is projected to be close to 2 billion next fiscal year.

So if it is not coming from ESPN, how are the other Cable Sports channels doing?

This is from May:
ESPN: -500K households
FS1: -328K households
Golf Channel: -505K
NBCSN: -544K
NFLN: -842K (Comcast kicked it up a tier with the Fox TNF news)

Not any better, all this has happen since the AAC contract was negotiated in 2013

Who do think is going to bid up the price? Just curious, I really don’t understand the pie in the sky/head in the sand mentality.

Of course I would like CUSA TV contract to be more but also realize that using the Big 10 contract as basis for our contract is absurd and has no basis in reality

The 2016 decline was due to that being the first open market renegotiation for CUSA rights after the 2011-2013 realignment. Same thing happened to the AAC when they had to negotiate immediately following realignment in 2013. Due to membership changes, the AAC/Big East deal went from 4 million a team to 2 million a team--a 50% cut. Worse yet, the Big East had rejected a 10 million a team offer in April of 2011. So you could make the case the value of the conference actually fell 80% after the membership changes.

Yes, subscribers are declining. So what. I just gave you 4 deals in the last few months. Every single one doubled--tripled--or better. The data is the data. Sports values are continuing to rise. Content is king. Nobody watches ESPN to see the talking heads. They go there to see the games.

Your data comparision is severely flawed.

Do you know what the Sunbelt is making because it has not been publicize and before they were making what 100k per team so now they are making 200k.

CUSA contract fell by almost 80% in 2016, so now that have gone to other streaming venues to see a slight increase.

If you look at the opinions of consultants and lawyers that have negotiated billion dollar tv contracts it is starkly different


The reckoning: When rights-fee bubble bursts, college sports will be changed forever



It was a nice model," says Frank Hawkins, principal of Scalar Media Partners, a Manhattan sports and media consulting firm, "but it isn't going to last."


The divide between the schools from the Power 5 conferences and the rest will widen. Nameplates, not 43-inch monitors, will festoon lockers. There will be fewer $600,000 strength coaches. Football players will have to nap in their dorm rooms. "The athletic department of tomorrow," says Hawkins, "could go through what Bristol is going through today."

present for the negotiations chuckles when he recalls ESPN's most recent NBA contract. "If that deal was being done today, it would look much different.... We're talking 30%-less different.

lol...his job is to pay as little for content as possible. So, I mean--believe what he says if you like---even though the NBA season just broke a bunch of TV ratings records this year--- Im sure its value has fallen 30%. Regardless, the facts are the amounts being paid in deals where people are actually putting their money on the table are rising.

NBA record attendance in 2018
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/12/nba-has-...ptick.html

NBA Western Final Breaks Viewship Records
https://variety.com/2016/tv/news/nba-gam...201785911/

Cavs/Celtics Breaks TV Ratings Record For ESPN
http://slackiebrown.com/cavs-celtics-bre...-for-espn/

No, Scalar was a consultant for the NBA. Would rather believe someone that help negotiate a billion dollar TV contract?

The landscape was change and ESPN has been a drag on DIS, losing millions subscribers, over 4 Billion in lost revenue and laying off hundreds employees.

The facts are that CUSA lost 80% of it's TV contract in this environment and You have no evidence of the new Sunbelt Contract. Yep the "facts are facts"

"No financial details were available"
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/co...story.html

Thats true for the Belt--no official figures were announced. However, Arkstfan (who is usually spot on) says the number he has heard from sources is about $400K per team. FWIW--the Sunbelt board seems to have embraced that number as well. That would also fit with the realtively vague range Matt Sarz discussed when parsing comments about the financials. The most defined number I found was in a NY Business Journal article which states the new payout is $300-400K per team.

* While I deal with the topic of financials far less, maybe because it's not as relevant to me, the AP is reporting the Sun Belt will increase their rights fee payment from ESPN. I expected some form of increase in rights fee, but the conference was starting from the floor compared to many of their peers & even a doubling of their rights fee from ESPN would only result in an average per school of around $200,000 to start, with non-football members like UT Arlington & Little Rock receiving another, presumably reduced, amount. I don't know if Idaho or New Mexico St. received any rights fee when they were affiliate members in football. Hawai'i doesn't from the Mountain West unless certain revenue targets are met and I doubt Navy did from the American when they have had side deals for the Army-Navy game and their own home games with CBS Sports.

Per the audio teleconference, commissioner Karl Benson referred to the rights fee as being on par with other Group of Five conferences. The MAC's purported rights fee is around $833,000 per school, $10 million to the conference per year. If they were closer to that, then Benson is right that the increase is significant, even if the number is small by the standards set by the Power 5 conferences.


http://mattsarzsports.blogspot.com/searc...-results=7

The New York Bussiness Journal says $300-400K .

Sun Belt schools will see an increase in annual revenue well above the current $100,000 per school, sources said. Under the new deal, Sun Belt schools can expect $300,000 to $400,000 per year with annual increases.

https://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news...-with.html

You do realize that the Sunbelt schools are going to have foot the production costs so even a triple of their current deal wouldn’t probably cover production costs. ESPN is basically getting the Sunbelt content for free

That sounds exactly like the Tulane Board discussion of the new AAC deal “a marginal increase that will be offset by the increase production upgrade costs” at least the AAC content won’t be free like the Sunbelt

These productions costs aren’t cheap, especially for schools that are going to have to major upgrades. And there are many of them, Tech included.

This is hell of deal for ESPN, yeah sure we will give you an extra 200k but you’ll have to foot the production cost and we get the content to stream and charge for.

That’s a win and win for ESPN, hardly what you have been describing in your posts

(06-14-2018 01:14 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  These productions costs aren’t cheap, especially for schools that are going to have to major upgrades. And there are many of them, Tech included.

This is hell of deal for ESPN, yeah sure we will give you an extra 200k but you’ll have to foot the production cost and we get the content to stream and charge for.

That’s a win and win for ESPN, hardly what you have been describing in your posts

Perhaps. Thats said--I believe the article says ESPN is giving additional funds to offset some of these costs. Additionally, it should be noted the Sunbelt was already doing a lot of that as most of their content was already on ESPN3. My guess is most of the upgrades required for Sunbelt schools are upgrades necessary to produce ESPN quality feeds from some of the venues that were not currently being produced for ESPN3 but will be under the new deal (baseball field, soccer facility, softball facility, etc). If the AAC opts for an ESPN+ deal for much of its 3rd tier content---they will have to make these same pricey upgrades. Your right--they are not cheap. I know our baseball program has looked into upgrading their current shoddy streaming feed and decided not to do anything for now. It was going to be pretty expensive. Basically, they didnt want to spend money and then have to just redo it after 2019 if the new deal required something different.

(06-14-2018 01:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-14-2018 01:14 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  These productions costs aren’t cheap, especially for schools that are going to have to major upgrades. And there are many of them, Tech included.

This is hell of deal for ESPN, yeah sure we will give you an extra 200k but you’ll have to foot the production cost and we get the content to stream and charge for.

That’s a win and win for ESPN, hardly what you have been describing in your posts

Perhaps. Thats said--I believe the article says ESPN is giving additional funds to offset some of these costs. Additionally, it should be noted the Sunbelt was already doing a lot of that as most of their content was already on ESPN3. My guess is most of the upgrades required for Sunbelt schools are upgrades necessary to produce ESPN quality feeds from some of the venues that were not currently being produced for ESPN3 but will be under the new deal (baseball field, soccer facility, softball facility, etc).

This is a hell of deal for ESPN, yeah we will give you a little extra but you’ll have to foot the production costs

As stated early, Tulane Board discussion seems to be right on target with the new AAC deal, a marginal increase to cover upgrade cost, That’s exactly what the Sunbelt got

(06-14-2018 01:32 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-14-2018 01:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-14-2018 01:14 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  These productions costs aren’t cheap, especially for schools that are going to have to major upgrades. And there are many of them, Tech included.

This is hell of deal for ESPN, yeah sure we will give you an extra 200k but you’ll have to foot the production cost and we get the content to stream and charge for.

That’s a win and win for ESPN, hardly what you have been describing in your posts

Perhaps. Thats said--I believe the article says ESPN is giving additional funds to offset some of these costs. Additionally, it should be noted the Sunbelt was already doing a lot of that as most of their content was already on ESPN3. My guess is most of the upgrades required for Sunbelt schools are upgrades necessary to produce ESPN quality feeds from some of the venues that were not currently being produced for ESPN3 but will be under the new deal (baseball field, soccer facility, softball facility, etc).

This is a hell of deal for ESPN, yeah we will give you a little extra but you’ll have to foot the production costs

As stated early, Tulane Board discussion seems to be right on target with the new AAC deal, a marginal increase to cover upgrade cost, That’s exactly what the Sunbelt got

Right on target with the new deal? lol...Aresco has said multiple times that negotiations with ESPN have not even begun (he said it today as a matter of fact). The UCF AD, the president of the University of Memphis, as well as the commissioner of the AAC, would all seem to be at odds with the opinion of this Tulane "professor". We will all find out who's right sometime between now and May 2019. Thats probably enough discussion of the AAC contract on the CUSA board---besides--no answer on that for a while. It looks like the bowls will be the big topic of conversation this summer. The bowls can start getting certified with new ties as of July 1 and are expected to be announced by summer's end. Good luck to you guys!

clt asks how is espn planning to make money on espn plus?


No one will pay extra for that.

(06-14-2018 05:17 PM)ghostofclt Wrote:  clt asks how is espn planning to make money on espn plus?


No one will pay extra for that.

I will. NHL fans will. Other major sports fans will. It's $5 a month to have tons of sports, without a cable package.

(06-12-2018 03:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  The AAC conference revenue decline by 6% to 74 million for the latest fiscal year. Included in the declining Revenue are payments that USF, Cincy and UConn are still receiving from the $70 million exit fees for being former Big East members.

All of the P5 conference saw increases in Revenue:
Revenue for P5:
SEC ($650 million)
Big Ten ($531 million)
Pac-12 ($509 million)
ACC ($418 million)
Big 12 ($371 million)


Point being You claim P6 all you want, but if you don't have the money to show for it you are not

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/co...story.html

with the Peach and Liberty bowls those numbers will be up nicely for 2017-18.

It's always amusing to see how obsessed this La Tech fan is with all things AAC.

(06-19-2018 12:00 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  It's always amusing to see how obsessed this La Tech fan is with all things AAC.

haha, I like a good laugh. And the AAC is a full on comedy show, especially about TV contracts .

BTW Shouldn't you be ordering your fake imitation Championship ring from China?

(06-19-2018 12:32 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-19-2018 12:00 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  It's always amusing to see how obsessed this La Tech fan is with all things AAC.

haha, I like a good laugh. And the AAC is a full on comedy show, especially about TV contracts .

BTW Shouldn't you be ordering your fake imitation Championship ring from China?

Damn, you're also super defensive about this. You ok brah?

You're on a CUSA board yet created an entire thread to use a 1 year result to "ding" the AAC. It's fascinating as someone who peeks over here once every 3 months to see that you're still hung up on the AAC.

Here's hoping something else in your life fills this obsessive void.

(06-19-2018 02:33 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(06-19-2018 12:32 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-19-2018 12:00 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  It's always amusing to see how obsessed this La Tech fan is with all things AAC.

haha, I like a good laugh. And the AAC is a full on comedy show, especially about TV contracts .

BTW Shouldn't you be ordering your fake imitation Championship ring from China?

Damn, you're also super defensive about this. You ok brah?

You're on a CUSA board yet created an entire thread to use a 1 year result to "ding" the AAC. It's fascinating as someone who peeks over here once every 3 months to see that you're still hung up on the AAC.

Here's hoping something else in your life fills this obsessive void.

....says the guy on a CUSA board. haha.

Hey, I'm just amazed a P6 graced us with their presence. Is it brighter in here to you guys?!

clt still watches the golf channel