(06-15-2018 03:22 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Maybe I'm just too old, but I know of nobody that is or has been addicted to opiates. In HS, some kids may have taken a Vicodin from their parents' medicine cabinet and popped it before a party from time to time, but they were never sold. I had a pretty low point in my life in the late 90s that I am not proud of where I snorted some coke (not habitually) and was around and experimented with some other pretty hard schit, but I have not so much as been in the same room as heroin.

It's a major issue with school-age kids these days. Back when I was in high school (I'm in my 40's) kids were looking to score weed or coke. Now it's pills.

(06-15-2018 03:37 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-15-2018 03:22 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Maybe I'm just too old, but I know of nobody that is or has been addicted to opiates. In HS, some kids may have taken a Vicodin from their parents' medicine cabinet and popped it before a party from time to time, but they were never sold. I had a pretty low point in my life in the late 90s that I am not proud of where I snorted some coke (not habitually) and was around and experimented with some other pretty hard schit, but I have not so much as been in the same room as heroin.

It's a major issue with school-age kids these days. Back when I was in high school (I'm in my 40's) kids were looking to score weed or coke. Now it's pills.

I didn't even see coke until college. HS parties were mostly just alcohol with a little bit of weed here and there. I think part of the problem is it has gotten so unsocial... very few parties, communication by text, and a lot more sitting around and screen watching and a lot less driving around and trying to get laid... maybe people are gravitating to more unsocial drugs like opiates and away from the social drugs like alcohol and coke. Weed can fall in either category depending on the person. But what fun is coke and booze if you are just going to sit around and play video games, text, or jerk off?

I am retired but I am still a Certified Pharmacy Tech. I worked at Walgreens for 17 years. This is a money grab. Yes, I feel bad about the young person losing their life but the courts allowing this to go forward is wrong.

If you want me to expound I will but right now I don't have the time. The RPh did what they are required to do, by law, in this type situation. It's not the RPh's fault.

Moron Lawyers don't get, legal costs to Walgreens will drive up costs on prescriptions to customers. LAWMAKERS, should simply pass laws (under advice from medical community) on proper prescription duration and strength allowed, cut it off at the source Medical providers, not the pharmacies filling orders from those providers for customers. Loss to remove medical license and put guilty doctors in jail is a fix that won't be passed on to customers.

(06-15-2018 05:45 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Moron Lawyers don't get, legal costs to Walgreens will drive up costs on prescriptions to customers. LAWMAKERS, should simply pass laws (under advice from medical community) on proper prescription duration and strength allowed, cut it off at the source Medical providers, not the pharmacies filling orders from those providers for customers. Loss to remove medical license and put guilty doctors in jail is a fix that won't be passed on to customers.

Only on drugs people are paying for not covered by insurance. If you have insurance, what you pay is set by insurance companies, not your pharmacy; regardless of who you use.
The script is sent to the insurance company electronically. The price that comes back from them is what is charged.
People think that the individual pharmacy sets costs but that's a huge fallacy. True, it is based on a multi level contract with said pharmacy but the insurance company still decides that price. Two people with different insurance companies can end up paying a different price for the exact same prescription.

Just gonna throw this out, but part of Medicare reimbursement is based on “patient satisfaction” and who do you think complains if they’re not satisfied with a narcotic script?

(06-16-2018 09:12 AM)dfarr Wrote:  Just gonna throw this out, but part of Medicare reimbursement is based on “patient satisfaction” and who do you think complains if they’re not satisfied with a narcotic script?

BINGO

(06-15-2018 11:43 AM)Kronke Wrote:  Pharmacists are trained to spot suspicious fills that are being alleged. It may not be a completely frivolous lawsuit.

we turn down scripts all the time. if it's a pain med and we feel funny we'll tell em 'I'll take it, but just be aware we won't fill it until we talk to your MD to confirm the script'

I'd say 60% of the time they just ask for the script back.

(06-15-2018 11:20 PM)CatMom Wrote:  

(06-15-2018 05:45 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Moron Lawyers don't get, legal costs to Walgreens will drive up costs on prescriptions to customers. LAWMAKERS, should simply pass laws (under advice from medical community) on proper prescription duration and strength allowed, cut it off at the source Medical providers, not the pharmacies filling orders from those providers for customers. Loss to remove medical license and put guilty doctors in jail is a fix that won't be passed on to customers.

Only on drugs people are paying for not covered by insurance. If you have insurance, what you pay is set by insurance companies, not your pharmacy; regardless of who you use.
The script is sent to the insurance company electronically. The price that comes back from them is what is charged.
People think that the individual pharmacy sets costs but that's a huge fallacy. True, it is based on a multi level contract with said pharmacy but the insurance company still decides that price. Two people with different insurance companies can end up paying a different price for the exact same prescription.

Ultimately a portion of these costs will find their way to consumers, either through higher premiums or co-pay's. Walgreen's won't let something like this get passed on to shareholders so they will raise prices.

(06-15-2018 11:30 AM)bobdizole Wrote:  Link

Raises the question of who is ultimately to blame. The doctor writing the prescription, the pharmacy filling it, or the user tossing the pills down.

Quote:Thursday's complaint, filed in Boone County, claims that for more than 10 years, Walgreens (WBA) filled "massive" and "suspicious" orders of opioids and failed to report them to authorities or put a stop to the shipments.

Beshear wants Walgreens to stop "over-dispensing opioids" and "filling suspicious orders." He also wants the company to pay back the amount it earned from the allegedly illegal gains.

Walgreens declined to comment on the pending litigation.

Related: The opioid crisis is draining America's workforce

Beshear said in a statement on Thursday that Walgreens has "significantly harmed the health of our families in fueling the opioid epidemic."

He has filed a number of lawsuits over the state's health crisis. This year, he sued drug maker Johnson & Johnson (JNJ) as well as opioid distributors AmerisourceBergen (ABC), Cardinal Health (CAH) and McKesson Corporation (MCK) over their alleged roles in Kentucky's epidemic.

This is pretty black & white to me.

We've ALL had periods when we've had pain either thru surgeries, injuries, etc. Just because some can't suck it up and deal with a bit of pain without having to drug themselves into oblivion doesn't mean the rest of us (or our doctors & pharmacies) should be scrutinized to the max.

There's been PLENTY of evidence for years that opioids are addictive if used in the wrong way. It's up to the INDIVIDUAL to take some responsibility for their OWN health and ask questions. It's also up to the individual to not pop a pill everytime they feel the slightest amount of pain.

Are there a few quacks out there? Yes. Did they perhaps over prescribe? Yes. That being said, how many got "addicted" based on their OWN irresponsibility but now feel the need to play the blame game.

Point the thumb before pointing the finger.

(06-15-2018 12:12 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  If you ever want to watch a documentary around the time this all started getting out of hand check out The Oxycontin Express

Reading somewhere that since they started cracking down, sales of heroin are up.