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RE: Oklahoma University's Debt Is Just Under 1 Billion Dollars
Land Texas. It adds the most to SEC academics and probably athletics for the long-term. Kansas adds another AAU school.
If OU, oSu, TTU, and KSU, end up heading to the PAC, still great move for the SEC.
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(06-25-2018 02:02 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  Land Texas. It adds the most to SEC academics and probably athletics for the long-term. Kansas adds another AAU school.
If OU, oSu, TTU, and KSU, end up heading to the PAC, still great move for the SEC.

I can't argue with your logic. So I won't. Whether it was Texas and Kansas, or Texas and a buddy your assessment is still accurate. It'll piss of Aggie fans but so be it. Texas and a buddy in a 16 member SEC still can't swing the votes on important issues.

And it absolutely seals the SEC's control over a state of 28 million. Then we don't have to fool with Okielite, or have a conflict of interest with the Big 10. If we emphasized a relationship with the Big 10 moving forward it will only strengthen us both and help us to stand against the latest concepts in marketing from the network execs when those ideas conflict with our traditions and/or best interests.

Maybe the compromise becomes UT and KU to the SEC and OU and ISU to the Big 10. WVU heads to the ACC and the PAC can pick over or ignore the rest.
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RE: Oklahoma University's Debt Is Just Under 1 Billion Dollars
(06-25-2018 02:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-25-2018 02:02 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  Land Texas. It adds the most to SEC academics and probably athletics for the long-term. Kansas adds another AAU school.
If OU, oSu, TTU, and KSU, end up heading to the PAC, still great move for the SEC.

I can't argue with your logic. So I won't. Whether it was Texas and Kansas, or Texas and a buddy your assessment is still accurate. It'll piss of Aggie fans but so be it. Texas and a buddy in a 16 member SEC still can't swing the votes on important issues.

And it absolutely seals the SEC's control over a state of 28 million. Then we don't have to fool with Okielite, or have a conflict of interest with the Big 10. If we emphasized a relationship with the Big 10 moving forward it will only strengthen us both and help us to stand against the latest concepts in marketing from the network execs when those ideas conflict with our traditions and/or best interests.

Maybe the compromise becomes UT and KU to the SEC and OU and ISU to the Big 10. WVU heads to the ACC and the PAC can pick over or ignore the rest.


The BIG seems like they have few "acceptable" options. Agree, ISU would offer BIG value, beyond the covered market arguments. While the trend had been to move outwards; tight, nearby rivalries are a good thing as well. With Iowa who is regular, playing Minnesota, Nebraska again, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern, etc matches up well.

If OU, oSu, and Texas, ended up in three separate conferences, that would pose some interesting dynamics and perhaps certain challenges in maintaining relationships.
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(06-26-2018 07:46 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  
(06-25-2018 02:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-25-2018 02:02 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  Land Texas. It adds the most to SEC academics and probably athletics for the long-term. Kansas adds another AAU school.
If OU, oSu, TTU, and KSU, end up heading to the PAC, still great move for the SEC.

I can't argue with your logic. So I won't. Whether it was Texas and Kansas, or Texas and a buddy your assessment is still accurate. It'll piss of Aggie fans but so be it. Texas and a buddy in a 16 member SEC still can't swing the votes on important issues.

And it absolutely seals the SEC's control over a state of 28 million. Then we don't have to fool with Okielite, or have a conflict of interest with the Big 10. If we emphasized a relationship with the Big 10 moving forward it will only strengthen us both and help us to stand against the latest concepts in marketing from the network execs when those ideas conflict with our traditions and/or best interests.

Maybe the compromise becomes UT and KU to the SEC and OU and ISU to the Big 10. WVU heads to the ACC and the PAC can pick over or ignore the rest.


The BIG seems like they have few "acceptable" options. Agree, ISU would offer BIG value, beyond the covered market arguments. While the trend had been to move outwards; tight, nearby rivalries are a good thing as well. With Iowa who is regular, playing Minnesota, Nebraska again, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern, etc matches up well.

If OU, oSu, and Texas, ended up in three separate conferences, that would pose some interesting dynamics and perhaps certain challenges in maintaining relationships.

Yes it would. But that is really the crux of most of this discussion. Does Oklahoma leave OSU behind? If the answer is yes then I think you can kiss Bedlam goodbye eventually. Larger conferences are going to mean fewer OOC opportunities. The RRR would be preserved but if OSU is left behind I think it's fatal for them. This is the only reason I see the pairing to the SEC as the most likely outcome. The State of Oklahoma, as cash strapped as they are for education for just the High Schools they aren't going to suffer the demotion of a State University lightly.

Now if OSU had a ticket to the PAC ....m.a.y.b.e.... it could be done. But OSU by themselves to the PAC just doesn't seem very likely to me.
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RE: Oklahoma University's Debt Is Just Under 1 Billion Dollars
(06-26-2018 08:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-26-2018 07:46 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  
(06-25-2018 02:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-25-2018 02:02 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  Land Texas. It adds the most to SEC academics and probably athletics for the long-term. Kansas adds another AAU school.
If OU, oSu, TTU, and KSU, end up heading to the PAC, still great move for the SEC.

I can't argue with your logic. So I won't. Whether it was Texas and Kansas, or Texas and a buddy your assessment is still accurate. It'll piss of Aggie fans but so be it. Texas and a buddy in a 16 member SEC still can't swing the votes on important issues.

And it absolutely seals the SEC's control over a state of 28 million. Then we don't have to fool with Okielite, or have a conflict of interest with the Big 10. If we emphasized a relationship with the Big 10 moving forward it will only strengthen us both and help us to stand against the latest concepts in marketing from the network execs when those ideas conflict with our traditions and/or best interests.

Maybe the compromise becomes UT and KU to the SEC and OU and ISU to the Big 10. WVU heads to the ACC and the PAC can pick over or ignore the rest.


The BIG seems like they have few "acceptable" options. Agree, ISU would offer BIG value, beyond the covered market arguments. While the trend had been to move outwards; tight, nearby rivalries are a good thing as well. With Iowa who is regular, playing Minnesota, Nebraska again, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern, etc matches up well.

If OU, oSu, and Texas, ended up in three separate conferences, that would pose some interesting dynamics and perhaps certain challenges in maintaining relationships.

Yes it would. But that is really the crux of most of this discussion. Does Oklahoma leave OSU behind? If the answer is yes then I think you can kiss Bedlam goodbye eventually. Larger conferences are going to mean fewer OOC opportunities. The RRR would be preserved but if OSU is left behind I think it's fatal for them. This is the only reason I see the pairing to the SEC as the most likely outcome. The State of Oklahoma, as cash strapped as they are for education for just the High Schools they aren't going to suffer the demotion of a State University lightly.

Now if OSU had a ticket to the PAC ....m.a.y.b.e.... it could be done. But OSU by themselves to the PAC just doesn't seem very likely to me.

As west as Texas Tech is, the PAC seems appropriate, particularly if the PAC added UNM. As others, the PAC may prefer flagship-land grant types with higher academics. Like the B12, the PAC doesn't seem to have a strategic expansion plan. Maybe Scott is working on it.
I believe near all the B12 could be placed in a P-4 if some flexibility is there. Baylor would be problematic. A few others less so, but no other P5 conference would be clamoring for them. Then some G-5 schools could be competition, i. e.. UConn, Cincinnati, Houston, maybe BYU in some odd way.

Really, I expect 3-5 B12 schools may leave, and the B12/new SWC backfill with SMU, Houston, Memphis, Cincy, USF, UCF, maybe Rice, Tulane, Louisiana-L, maybe BYU, Tulsa---oh no, that's AAC schools mostly. OK, depending on how many leave, remnants either join up with the AAC or raid the AAC. The later appears more likely to me at this time. But then again, there will be some suprises.

The SEC sits with the best options.

As with the focus of this thread, OU has some internal financial matters to address. One thing for certain, they are not an AAU candidate.
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