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Bowlsby: 3 new bowl games in 2020 does not mean more bowls
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RE: Bowlsby: 3 new bowl games in 2020 does not mean more bowls
Bluebonnet should replace Poinsettia
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RE: Bowlsby: 3 new bowl games in 2020 does not mean more bowls
Detroit bowl isn't going anywhere
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RE: Bowlsby: 3 new bowl games in 2020 does not mean more bowls
(06-21-2018 07:36 PM)indianasniff Wrote: Detroit bowl isn't going anywhere
Agreed. It's owned by the Lions, that stabilizes it.
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RE: Bowlsby: 3 new bowl games in 2020 does not mean more bowls
(06-21-2018 07:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (06-21-2018 07:36 PM)indianasniff Wrote: Detroit bowl isn't going anywhere
Agreed. It's owned by the Lions, that stabilizes it.
Perhaps it reverts back to the MAC?
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RE: Bowlsby: 3 new bowl games in 2020 does not mean more bowls
(06-21-2018 07:23 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: Bluebonnet should replace Poinsettia
Bluebonnet has been effectively replaced by the Texas Bowl. Houston will not get a second.
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RE: Bowlsby: 3 new bowl games in 2020 does not mean more bowls
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RE: Bowlsby: 3 new bowl games in 2020 does not mean more bowls
(06-22-2018 08:07 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote: (06-21-2018 07:23 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: Bluebonnet should replace Poinsettia
Bluebonnet has been effectively replaced by the Texas Bowl. Houston will not get a second.
Out of curiosity, if DFW has the Cotton, Armed Forces, Heart of Dallas, and Frisco Bowls why couldn't another bowl game go to Houston?
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RE: Bowlsby: 3 new bowl games in 2020 does not mean more bowls
Detroit Bowl should be a MAC Champ vs. Big Ten
Bahamas Bowl should move to Charleston, SC
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RE: Bowlsby: 3 new bowl games in 2020 does not mean more bowls
(06-22-2018 09:16 AM)chrisattsu Wrote: (06-22-2018 08:07 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote: (06-21-2018 07:23 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: Bluebonnet should replace Poinsettia
Bluebonnet has been effectively replaced by the Texas Bowl. Houston will not get a second.
Out of curiosity, if DFW has the Cotton, Armed Forces, Heart of Dallas, and Frisco Bowls why couldn't another bowl game go to Houston?
Flippant reply: Only one of those bowls is actually in Dallas.
Real reply: A second Houston bowl would be among G5 teams and have the attendance of the Heart of Dallas. near zero.
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RE: Bowlsby: 3 new bowl games in 2020 does not mean more bowls
Motor City Bowl lives on. Should be the loser of the MAC Championship, let the winner travel south somewhere.
Orlando doesn’t need three games at the Citrus Bowl, they should knock out one of those, at least I would if appointed to College Football Bowl Czar.
Boca Raton? Umm, let’s move that to Cuba or somewhere interesting. What’s the Boca halftime show, local shuffleboard legends? (That actually sounds entertaining)
Potato Bowl? I think if college athletes got to vote on eliminating a bowl, the Potato Bowl wouldn’t exist. At least the Detroit Bowl is indoors and attached to an NFL franchise. I know know, “but esayyyyeeem, the Potato Bowl is a campy tradition now!”
Armed Forces Bowl should move to Heart of Dallas (thee Cotton Bowl) and get rid of a bowl at TCU’s stadium.
Frisco Bowl? Why was this even allowed? A soccer stadium in Texas for a whopping 200k payout...
For the small-time bowls, I actually really like the Camellia Bowl. Mainly because it’s at a historic venue and I have fond memories of the Blue-Gray Classic.
Also, the Peach Bowl needs to update their logo. The T-1000 Peach is not appetizing at all; makes me think Chic-fi-la wants nothing to do with the fruit.
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RE: Bowlsby: 3 new bowl games in 2020 does not mean more bowls
(06-22-2018 09:30 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote: (06-22-2018 09:16 AM)chrisattsu Wrote: (06-22-2018 08:07 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote: (06-21-2018 07:23 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: Bluebonnet should replace Poinsettia
Bluebonnet has been effectively replaced by the Texas Bowl. Houston will not get a second.
Out of curiosity, if DFW has the Cotton, Armed Forces, Heart of Dallas, and Frisco Bowls why couldn't another bowl game go to Houston?
Flippant reply: Only one of those bowls is actually in Dallas.
Real reply: A second Houston bowl would be among G5 teams and have the attendance of the Heart of Dallas. near zero.
Thats a bit overbaord. BBVA Compass and its 22K capacity would be a very viable location for G5 vs G5 bowl. Center the bowl events around Discovery Green Park (dust off the Super Bowl plan from a few years ago). Base one team and their fans in the Hiltons Americas on one side of Discovery Green Park and place the other in the Marriott Marquis on the opposite side of the Discovery Green Park. All the events can be in the park, the hotels, or the adjacent Brown Convention Center. All these locations, as well as the stadium are within walking distance. Plenty of restaurants, theaters, and bars within walking distance as well (as is the stadium). The Museum District and Zoo are accessible by the light rail system.
Basically, let the teams and fans take over the Discovery Green area for a week in December. There are plenty of additional rooms in the downtown for fans not able to stay in the 2 "primary" hotels. Add a few free concerts with local cover bands at an outdoor venue in Discovery Green Park and you have the makings of a pretty enjoyable G5 bowl experience. It just has to be done right. You'd likely see some locals attracted to the area as well with the additional activities and crowds.
To me, the key to making these G5 vs G5 bowls a fun experience is to pack the fanbases into a small entertainment district, cater to that group, and let them take over that area for a week of fun and frivolity. It doesnt really matter where you do it as long as it stays reasonably affordable and doesnt require lengthy travel.
(This post was last modified: 06-22-2018 01:37 PM by Attackcoog.)
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RE: Bowlsby: 3 new bowl games in 2020 does not mean more bowls
(06-22-2018 09:57 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: (06-22-2018 09:30 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote: (06-22-2018 09:16 AM)chrisattsu Wrote: (06-22-2018 08:07 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote: (06-21-2018 07:23 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: Bluebonnet should replace Poinsettia
Bluebonnet has been effectively replaced by the Texas Bowl. Houston will not get a second.
Out of curiosity, if DFW has the Cotton, Armed Forces, Heart of Dallas, and Frisco Bowls why couldn't another bowl game go to Houston?
Flippant reply: Only one of those bowls is actually in Dallas.
Real reply: A second Houston bowl would be among G5 teams and have the attendance of the Heart of Dallas. near zero.
Thats a bit overbaord. BBVA Compass and its 22K capacity would be a very viable location for G5 vs G5 bowl. Center the bowl events around Discovery Green Park (dust off the Super Bowl plan from a few years ago). Base one team and their fans in the Hiltons Americas on one side of Discovery Green Park and place the other in the Marriott Marquis on the opposite side of the Discovery Green Park. All the events can be in the park, the hotels, or the adjacent Brown Convention Center. All these locations, as well as the stadium are within walking distance. Plenty of restaurants, theaters, and bars within walking distance as well (as is the stadium). The Museum District and Zoo are accessible by the light rail system.
Basically, let the teams and fans take over the Discovery Green area for a week in December. There are plenty of additional rooms in the downtown for fans not able to stay in the 2 "primary" hotels. Add a few free concerts with local cover bands at an outdoor venue in Discovery Green Park and you have the makings of a pretty enjoyable G5 bowl experience. It just has to be done right. You'd likely see some local attracted to the area as well with the additional activities and crowds.
To me, the key to making these G5 vs G5 bowls a fun experience is to pack the fanbases into a small entertainment district, cater to that group, and let them take over that area for a week of fun and frivolity. It doesnt really matter where you do it as long as it stays reasonably affordable and doesnt require lengthy travel.
Man this is one awesome idea. How come they keep putting bowls in oddball places and don't try something like this? For G5 v G5, this would be simple travel, great FUN. Fans might not even need to rent cars!
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RE: Bowlsby: 3 new bowl games in 2020 does not mean more bowls
(06-21-2018 10:34 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: Perhaps it reverts back to the MAC?
I love having the MAC in this game. Even better if we can again square off with the Big Ten.
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RE: Bowlsby: 3 new bowl games in 2020 does not mean more bowls
(06-22-2018 09:30 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote: (06-22-2018 09:16 AM)chrisattsu Wrote: (06-22-2018 08:07 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote: (06-21-2018 07:23 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: Bluebonnet should replace Poinsettia
Bluebonnet has been effectively replaced by the Texas Bowl. Houston will not get a second.
Out of curiosity, if DFW has the Cotton, Armed Forces, Heart of Dallas, and Frisco Bowls why couldn't another bowl game go to Houston?
Flippant reply: Only one of those bowls is actually in Dallas.
Real reply: A second Houston bowl would be among G5 teams and have the attendance of the Heart of Dallas. near zero.
It depends...if it was AAC against C-USA it may do well. And it would almost certainly have to be on UH's campus if not BBVA Compass.
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RE: Bowlsby: 3 new bowl games in 2020 does not mean more bowls
The Bahamas Bowl needs to come back to the States so fans can actually attend. Not too many schools are going to have fans that can make multiple trips to that game.
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RE: Bowlsby: 3 new bowl games in 2020 does not mean more bowls
Every venue named Bowl should host one in its namesake.
Move Bahamas to Toledo for the Glass Bowl.
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RE: Bowlsby: 3 new bowl games in 2020 does not mean more bowls
Why would you move a bowl out of TCU's new stadium sponsored by a Fort Worth company to a 90,000 seat stadium in Dallas in a bad part of town? Our city has done a nice job of supporting this bowl. Dallas is ambivalent towards the Heart of Dallas Bowl even to the point of cutting off funding.
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RE: Bowlsby: 3 new bowl games in 2020 does not mean more bowls
(06-22-2018 09:57 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: Thats a bit overbaord. BBVA Compass and its 22K capacity would be a very viable location for G5 vs G5 bowl. Center the bowl events around Discovery Green Park (dust off the Super Bowl plan from a few years ago). Base one team and their fans in the Hiltons Americas on one side of Discovery Green Park and place the other in the Marriott Marquis on the opposite side of the Discovery Green Park. All the events can be in the park, the hotels, or the adjacent Brown Convention Center. All these locations, as well as the stadium are within walking distance. Plenty of restaurants, theaters, and bars within walking distance as well (as is the stadium). The Museum District and Zoo are accessible by the light rail system.
Basically, let the teams and fans take over the Discovery Green area for a week in December. There are plenty of additional rooms in the downtown for fans not able to stay in the 2 "primary" hotels. Add a few free concerts with local cover bands at an outdoor venue in Discovery Green Park and you have the makings of a pretty enjoyable G5 bowl experience. It just has to be done right. You'd likely see some locals attracted to the area as well with the additional activities and crowds.
To me, the key to making these G5 vs G5 bowls a fun experience is to pack the fanbases into a small entertainment district, cater to that group, and let them take over that area for a week of fun and frivolity. It doesnt really matter where you do it as long as it stays reasonably affordable and doesnt require lengthy travel.
This is a very good idea. A large list of AAC/C-USA/Sunbelt teams would likely draw well.
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RE: Bowlsby: 3 new bowl games in 2020 does not mean more bowls
(06-22-2018 02:52 PM)Big Frog II Wrote: Why would you move a bowl out of TCU's new stadium sponsored by a Fort Worth company to a 90,000 seat stadium in Dallas in a bad part of town? Our city has done a nice job of supporting this bowl. Dallas is ambivalent towards the Heart of Dallas Bowl even to the point of cutting off funding.
That’s fine, I just figured the academies would draw no matter where it was and the stadium in Dallas holds more people.
Having a bowl in an on-campus stadium still seems strange, although it’s trending upwards. Off the top of my head: Ft. Worth, Tempe, Tucson, Myrtle Beach, Albuquerque, Boca, El Paso (?), and Boise.
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