(07-04-2018 01:58 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  I would go with a 3 divisions and include all the teams.

East:
BC
Syracuse
Duke
Wake Forrest
Miami

Central:
ND
Northwestern
Vandy
Tulane
SMU / TCU

West:
USC
BYU
Stanford
Rice
TCU / SMU

Should football start causing too many problems-athletes getting paid, more rapes, more recruiting scandals, I could see something like this happening. Especially with the privates not named USC or Notre Dame.

(07-05-2018 10:03 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-04-2018 01:58 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  I would go with a 3 divisions and include all the teams.

East:
BC
Syracuse
Duke
Wake Forrest
Miami

Central:
ND
Northwestern
Vandy
Tulane
SMU / TCU

West:
USC
BYU
Stanford
Rice
TCU / SMU

Should football start causing too many problems-athletes getting paid, more rapes, more recruiting scandals, I could see something like this happening. Especially with the privates not named USC or Notre Dame.

I don't know that athletes getting paid is a problem per se....

(07-05-2018 09:22 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Who exactly is in your Charlotte TV market? Neither Wake nor Duke are.

Notre Dame isn't in Chicago either, but they get some of the highest ratings. Syracuse isn't in NYC but.... You get the point

(07-05-2018 01:55 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 09:22 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Who exactly is in your Charlotte TV market? Neither Wake nor Duke are.

Notre Dame isn't in Chicago either, but they get some of the highest ratings. Syracuse isn't in NYC but.... You get the point

Then why not say Raleigh-Durham? It's actually a bigger TV market than Charlotte and Duke is in it.

https://www.newsobserver.com/entertainme...05241.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Ivy

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(07-05-2018 02:15 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 01:55 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 09:22 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Who exactly is in your Charlotte TV market? Neither Wake nor Duke are.

Notre Dame isn't in Chicago either, but they get some of the highest ratings. Syracuse isn't in NYC but.... You get the point

Then why not say Raleigh-Durham? It's actually a bigger TV market than Charlotte and Duke is in it.

https://www.newsobserver.com/entertainme...05241.html

Or both. . .

It's a hpothetical that will never happen. I didn't deep research it just did some casual toss together.

Raleigh-Durham works fine for me

(07-05-2018 07:23 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 01:42 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  I kinda thought Miami was one, sorry.

Wrong Miami.

I thought they both were.

(07-05-2018 10:32 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 10:03 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-04-2018 01:58 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  I would go with a 3 divisions and include all the teams.

East:
BC
Syracuse
Duke
Wake Forrest
Miami

Central:
ND
Northwestern
Vandy
Tulane
SMU / TCU

West:
USC
BYU
Stanford
Rice
TCU / SMU

Should football start causing too many problems-athletes getting paid, more rapes, more recruiting scandals, I could see something like this happening. Especially with the privates not named USC or Notre Dame.

I don't know that athletes getting paid is a problem per se....

ND says they are out of the NCAA if players start getting paid:

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/notre-...-major-cfb


http://www.sportingnews.com/g00/ncaa-foo...i10c.dv=14

(07-05-2018 10:32 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 10:03 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-04-2018 01:58 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  I would go with a 3 divisions and include all the teams.

East:
BC
Syracuse
Duke
Wake Forrest
Miami

Central:
ND
Northwestern
Vandy
Tulane
SMU / TCU

West:
USC
BYU
Stanford
Rice
TCU / SMU

Should football start causing too many problems-athletes getting paid, more rapes, more recruiting scandals, I could see something like this happening. Especially with the privates not named USC or Notre Dame.

I don't know that athletes getting paid is a problem per se....

Some of those schools wouldn't want to be full blown professional minor leagues. And they may just prefer to limit it basketball. That's only 13-15 players.

Lawsuits or NCAA rules changes could easily put us there with salaries, not just scholarships and expenses.

The first super-conference that never happened

https://www.si.com/vault/1959/02/02/6042...age-secret

(07-05-2018 04:43 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 10:32 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 10:03 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-04-2018 01:58 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  I would go with a 3 divisions and include all the teams.

East:
BC
Syracuse
Duke
Wake Forrest
Miami

Central:
ND
Northwestern
Vandy
Tulane
SMU / TCU

West:
USC
BYU
Stanford
Rice
TCU / SMU

Should football start causing too many problems-athletes getting paid, more rapes, more recruiting scandals, I could see something like this happening. Especially with the privates not named USC or Notre Dame.

I don't know that athletes getting paid is a problem per se....

ND says they are out of the NCAA if players start getting paid:

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/notre-...-major-cfb


http://www.sportingnews.com/g00/ncaa-foo...i10c.dv=14

My point is that college athletes actually getting the pay they deserve is not a "problem" in the sense that rapes and recruiting scandals are.

And if paying players means ND opts to drop out of the race instead, then too bad, so sad.

(07-05-2018 04:43 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 10:32 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 10:03 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-04-2018 01:58 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  I would go with a 3 divisions and include all the teams.

East:
BC
Syracuse
Duke
Wake Forrest
Miami

Central:
ND
Northwestern
Vandy
Tulane
SMU / TCU

West:
USC
BYU
Stanford
Rice
TCU / SMU

Should football start causing too many problems-athletes getting paid, more rapes, more recruiting scandals, I could see something like this happening. Especially with the privates not named USC or Notre Dame.

I don't know that athletes getting paid is a problem per se....

ND says they are out of the NCAA if players start getting paid:

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/notre-...-major-cfb


http://www.sportingnews.com/g00/ncaa-foo...i10c.dv=14

With Notre Dame the question isn't the school's position, but whether the president would get overruled by the boosters. With a lot of schools that aren't football powers, football boosters don't have as much influence.

Where’s Tulsa on that list?

(07-04-2018 12:30 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Just the land of make believe because I'm bored.

A private school only super conference that would make sense and be strong.

North Division:
Notre Dame
Northwestern
Syracuse
Boston College
Wake Forrest
Duke

Southern Division:
Miami
TCU
SMU
Vandy
Tulane
Rice

Florida and Texas for recruiting as well as midwest, Carolinas, and New England. Notre Dame, Miami, and TCU anchor the football. Some good basketball, Duke, Wake, Syracuse, Notre Dame, Miami, and now TCU. Major media markets, Boston, New York, Chicago, Miami, Charlotte, Nashville, Dallas, Houston, New Orleans.

That might actually be a workable league geographically and capable of competing at top level on the field and for eyeballs.

USC, Stanford, and BYU could upgrade the competition by dropping Rice, Tulane, and say Wake or SMU but geographically it would make little sense and the money would have to be outrageous to make it work.

The future is 16 teams in conference world. So actually just add those teams and it’s really strong

(07-05-2018 05:41 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Where’s Tulsa on that list?

Unlike Tulane, SMU, or Rice our location is not a hot bed of recruiting and college football. Combined with our low enrollment and alumni base we would be out of luck. The western schools coming into a 16 member conference could get us in as geographical and mission fit. One of the reasons we fit well in the AAC is we regularly punch above our weight (AAC mentality) and we have huge schools in the conference to offset our lack of alumni.

Adding USC, Stanford, and BYU would open the door for it to be workable with their large alumni bases and national draws.

Enrollment

West:
USC 45,500
BYU 33,500*
Stanford 16,300
Tulane 13,500
SMU 11,800
TCU 10,300
Rice 6,700
Tulsa 4,600

East:
Syracuse 21,000
Northwestern 21,000
Miami 15,500
Boston College 14,500
Vandy 12,600
Notre Dame 11,900*
Wake 7,100
Duke 6,200

*Also carry national relevance as top flight universities for religious associations.

Miami and USC bring national reputations as well.

(07-05-2018 04:47 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  The first super-conference that never happened

https://www.si.com/vault/1959/02/02/6042...age-secret

I posted something like this with the same super conference from a different source a few years ago on here.

Southeast:
Miami
Belmont
Mercer
Vanderbilt
Duke
Wake Forest

Northeast:
Syracuse
Villanova
Georgetown
Saint John's
Richmond
Boston College

Midwest:
Notre Dame
Northwestern
Butler
Marquette
Dayton
Xavier

Plains:
Tulane
Rice
SMU
TCU
Creighton
Saint Louis

West Coast:
BYU
USC
Stanford
Gonzaga
Grand Canyon U. (since they are dropping the for provite status.)
Saint Mary's

You get the best from both coasts.

(07-05-2018 01:42 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  I kinda thought Miami was one, sorry.

They like to think they are private.

Wasn't a Magnolia Conference looked at once upon a time but didn't work out due to the money some schools were making back then?
Would be even more difficult to pull something like that off now right?

(07-06-2018 02:02 PM)GhentFan Wrote:  Wasn't a Magnolia Conference looked at once upon a time but didn't work out due to the money some schools were making back then?
Would be even more difficult to pull something like that off now right?

I dont know if the Magnolia Confernece was ever a very serious proposal. Lets be real---today no P5 is leaving their cushy P5 meal ticket to be in a new conference. So, any private school conference would have to assembled from schools outside of the P5.

Rice, Tulane, SMU, and Tulsa make a lot of sense together. Add in Navy, Air Force, and Army---you become a bit more far flung----but you certainly would have 7 schools that would be great institutional fits. You need just one more school to get to 8. Given the layout--you'd ideally like make #8 a travel partner for Air Force.