(07-13-2018 02:22 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-11-2018 11:53 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(07-11-2018 11:44 PM)Rube Dali Wrote:  

(07-11-2018 01:37 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-11-2018 01:31 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  One thing would hurt the P5. NCAA could boot them all from the NCAAs for all sports.

Without the P5 the NCAA is nothing. For starters the billion dollar basketball tournament contract would evaporate by about 95% in value.

I think the evaporation would be closer to 100%. Schools left and right would drop entire programs if this was the case, possibly in minutes after the split.

Hogwash.

Big East, AAC, A10, MWC, MVC, WCC all have compelling product. I think if the P5 pulled the plug in the 70's then yes the others would have died on the vine but with deep tourney tradition these conferences have no.

But it’s not so compelling if most viewers don’t see it as part of the highest level of college sports—-which is likley how the general public will view the NCAA without the P5. Basically, you’d have the G5+FCS+D1 non football schools. Add up all the TV contracts belonging to those conferences and you will have a good idea of how little TV value would be left behind.

There are a group of schools in the G5, FCs, non-football like the Big East schools and the D2 Minnesota and Michigan schools that would be more valuable to the P5 to take them with them. The Service Acamedies, Boise State, Fresno State, San Diego State, the AAC schools, BYU, Gonzaga and some others could be going with the P5. We already know the Big 10, ACC and SEC considers half the AAC as P5 teams, Army, Navy and some of the MWC schools. NDSU would be considered a P5 school for SoS in football as well even if they are FCS. They are killing the P5 schools in football. Mainly the Big 12 schools.

(07-13-2018 04:21 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(07-13-2018 02:22 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-11-2018 11:53 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(07-11-2018 11:44 PM)Rube Dali Wrote:  

(07-11-2018 01:37 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Without the P5 the NCAA is nothing. For starters the billion dollar basketball tournament contract would evaporate by about 95% in value.

I think the evaporation would be closer to 100%. Schools left and right would drop entire programs if this was the case, possibly in minutes after the split.

Hogwash.

Big East, AAC, A10, MWC, MVC, WCC all have compelling product. I think if the P5 pulled the plug in the 70's then yes the others would have died on the vine but with deep tourney tradition these conferences have no.

But it’s not so compelling if most viewers don’t see it as part of the highest level of college sports—-which is likley how the general public will view the NCAA without the P5. Basically, you’d have the G5+FCS+D1 non football schools. Add up all the TV contracts belonging to those conferences and you will have a good idea of how little TV value would be left behind.

There are a group of schools in the G5, FCs, non-football like the Big East schools and the D2 Minnesota and Michigan schools that would be more valuable to the P5 to take them with them. The Service Acamedies, Boise State, Fresno State, San Diego State, the AAC schools, BYU, Gonzaga and some others could be going with the P5. We already know the Big 10, ACC and SEC considers half the AAC as P5 teams, Army, Navy and some of the MWC schools. NDSU would be considered a P5 school for SoS in football as well even if they are FCS. They are killing the P5 schools in football. Mainly the Big 12 schools.

As has been explained before, the P5 likes having the G5 around, it serves their purpose to have a lesser-group of schools to pad their schedules with, even if occasionally the G5 school bites the P5 school in the arse and beats them. The only P5 schools that truly want to play only other P5 schools are the powerhouses like Alabama.

So the P5 will not willingly leave the NCAA and the G5 behind. The only way that happens is if the G5 gets too uppity and starts demanding more money, guaranteed playoff access, etc.

If Ala really wanted to schedule P5 schools they would have already. The honest truth is they want a Low level G5 and 1AA on their schedule most years. Saban's lip service is just that lip service...

(07-13-2018 06:50 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-13-2018 04:21 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(07-13-2018 02:22 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-11-2018 11:53 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(07-11-2018 11:44 PM)Rube Dali Wrote:  I think the evaporation would be closer to 100%. Schools left and right would drop entire programs if this was the case, possibly in minutes after the split.

Hogwash.

Big East, AAC, A10, MWC, MVC, WCC all have compelling product. I think if the P5 pulled the plug in the 70's then yes the others would have died on the vine but with deep tourney tradition these conferences have no.

But it’s not so compelling if most viewers don’t see it as part of the highest level of college sports—-which is likley how the general public will view the NCAA without the P5. Basically, you’d have the G5+FCS+D1 non football schools. Add up all the TV contracts belonging to those conferences and you will have a good idea of how little TV value would be left behind.

There are a group of schools in the G5, FCs, non-football like the Big East schools and the D2 Minnesota and Michigan schools that would be more valuable to the P5 to take them with them. The Service Acamedies, Boise State, Fresno State, San Diego State, the AAC schools, BYU, Gonzaga and some others could be going with the P5. We already know the Big 10, ACC and SEC considers half the AAC as P5 teams, Army, Navy and some of the MWC schools. NDSU would be considered a P5 school for SoS in football as well even if they are FCS. They are killing the P5 schools in football. Mainly the Big 12 schools.

As has been explained before, the P5 likes having the G5 around, it serves their purpose to have a lesser-group of schools to pad their schedules with, even if occasionally the G5 school bites the P5 school in the arse and beats them. The only P5 schools that truly want to play only other P5 schools are the powerhouses like Alabama.

So the P5 will not willingly leave the NCAA and the G5 behind. The only way that happens is if the G5 gets too uppity and starts demanding more money, guaranteed playoff access, etc.

I am still not buying that. Those schools would be losing the money they make with the extra home game (or games) for their fans.