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RE: Trump faces bipartisan criticism
Remember M.A.D. ? Mutually Assured Destruction.

We launch nukes, they launch nukes, the world dies.

Is this what Paul Ryan, the Neo-Cons, and the Anti-Trump psycho liberals want ?

Apparently so. Not only is liberalism a mental disorder, so is everything anti-Trump these days.

TDS and liberalism: the dynamic duo of mental illness.
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you guys would believe our dear leader shot a 27 on one of his courses too. He admires strongmen and belittles democracies. You couldn’t count on him in an Article 5 request and he even might give away the battle plans...........

I blame the abolishment of the fairness doctrine.
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For 8 years I listened to this room saying the black magic man was subverting US interests and prestige. Then you go and elect an orange one who did exactly that.
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If only Trump had brought a big red & yellow RESET button with him........
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(07-17-2018 06:51 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  For 8 years I listened to this room saying the black magic man was subverting US interests and prestige. Then you go and elect an orange one who did exactly that.

Well, there's a bit of a difference. Lord Zero actually did subvert US interests along with the constitution. We are still feeling the effects. Trump has actually put us back on the world stage as THE dominant force to be reckoned with and that reckoning, as it occurs under your very noses, is disturbing to you globalists.

Exactly how has Trump subverted anything except your now precious status quo?

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(07-17-2018 06:51 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  For 8 years I listened to this room saying the black magic man was subverting US interests and prestige. Then you go and elect an orange one who did exactly that.

good fkn god Mach......you've flat out lost it.....

do you pay att'n to GDP growth numbers at all???

what the fk do you think really matters.....

you are fully sucking on some major hyperbolic rhetorical teat at this point.....
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When I was about 8 years old, I watched "The Day After". Movie bothered the hell out of me. Reagan said it was "damn depressing". Even sent a copy to Gorby, who also found it to be depressing.

Now there are people who WANT this to happen. That alone proves you are the traitors. That alone proves you are mentally ill.
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(07-16-2018 10:11 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Trump sided with Putin’s assessment versus our own intelligence agencies. Putin was forceful with Trump. He told him Russia didn’t have anything to do with it and Trump believes him.

He took the side of a Thug on foreign soil and people will still stand by him. Incredible.

Libs are butthurt because Trump fights back. Any idiot could see if they opened their eyes. The president is being attacked by some in the IC. Clapper, Brennen, Comey, Strzok and who knows who else are active in a soft coup attempt to get rid of a president that was lawfully elected by the citizens of this country. The socialist progressive left is pushing a narrative concocted by enemies of the US. This is the outrage.
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(07-17-2018 06:49 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  you guys would believe our dear leader shot a 27 on one of his courses too. He admires strongmen and belittles democracies. You couldn’t count on him in an Article 5 request and he even might give away the battle plans...........

I blame the abolishment of the fairness doctrine.

Sometimes I think you are a troll because no one could be so vacuous.
But maybe you could answer this question for me, please;
In a short paragraph tell us just exactly what you wish would happen and what you wish the outcome of this would be?
Please enlighten us.
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I believe the Russians stole Democratic analytics and put it to use through Cambridge Analytica. The stuff was so specific they had to inside knowledge with the help of the GOP. We are talking about precinct level targets of specific groups. White nurses aged 45-53. This group would get targeted messages. This wasn’t cheating on a test. This wasn’t knowing the answers before hand. This was knowing the other sides first scripted 40 plays in a football game. The. I think about McConnell and the Supreme Court justices. What happened here will not stand. If you can’t see that Putin has dirt on Trump by now you never will. If you can’t see McConell denied Obama a Supreme Court Justice by now, you never will. It’s about fairness. This is 20 Times worse than watergate because the plumbers worked for Nixon. Our President works for the crooks now. He’s compromised. Then all of the ramifications of that. It’s disatrous.
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(07-17-2018 07:30 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I believe the Russians stole Democratic analytics and put it to use through Cambridge Analytica. The stuff was so specific they had to inside knowledge with the help of the GOP. We are talking about precinct level targets of specific groups. White nurses aged 45-53. This group would get targeted messages. This wasn’t cheating on a test. This wasn’t knowing the answers before hand. This was knowing the other sides first scripted 40 plays in a football game. The. I think about McConnell and the Supreme Court justices. What happened here will not stand. If you can’t see that Putin has dirt on Trump by now you never will. If you can’t see McConell denied Obama a Supreme Court Justice by now, you never will. It’s about fairness. This is 20 Times worse than watergate because the plumbers worked for Nixon. Our President works for the crooks now. He’s compromised. Then all of the ramifications of that. It’s disatrous.

Please tell us what you want to happen in the aftermath of removing a president because you ‘believe’ he was elected with the help of Russians.
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Hey, if any of you liberals here want to go pick up a gun and shoot at Russian troops, then by all means go ahead and do so. I plan on sitting this one out.
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(07-17-2018 07:35 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(07-17-2018 07:30 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I believe the Russians stole Democratic analytics and put it to use through Cambridge Analytica. The stuff was so specific they had to inside knowledge with the help of the GOP. We are talking about precinct level targets of specific groups. White nurses aged 45-53. This group would get targeted messages. This wasn’t cheating on a test. This wasn’t knowing the answers before hand. This was knowing the other sides first scripted 40 plays in a football game. The. I think about McConnell and the Supreme Court justices. What happened here will not stand. If you can’t see that Putin has dirt on Trump by now you never will. If you can’t see McConell denied Obama a Supreme Court Justice by now, you never will. It’s about fairness. This is 20 Times worse than watergate because the plumbers worked for Nixon. Our President works for the crooks now. He’s compromised. Then all of the ramifications of that. It’s disatrous.

Please tell us what you want to happen in the aftermath of removing a president because you ‘believe’ he was elected with the help of Russians.

Let Mueller do his job and shut the Freedom Caucus’s crusade against Mueller. That’s all.
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(07-17-2018 11:19 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
(07-17-2018 07:35 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(07-17-2018 07:30 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I believe the Russians stole Democratic analytics and put it to use through Cambridge Analytica. The stuff was so specific they had to inside knowledge with the help of the GOP. We are talking about precinct level targets of specific groups. White nurses aged 45-53. This group would get targeted messages. This wasn’t cheating on a test. This wasn’t knowing the answers before hand. This was knowing the other sides first scripted 40 plays in a football game. The. I think about McConnell and the Supreme Court justices. What happened here will not stand. If you can’t see that Putin has dirt on Trump by now you never will. If you can’t see McConell denied Obama a Supreme Court Justice by now, you never will. It’s about fairness. This is 20 Times worse than watergate because the plumbers worked for Nixon. Our President works for the crooks now. He’s compromised. Then all of the ramifications of that. It’s disatrous.

Please tell us what you want to happen in the aftermath of removing a president because you ‘believe’ he was elected with the help of Russians.

Let Mueller do his job and shut the Freedom Caucus’s crusade against Mueller. That’s all.

And if Mueller finds no evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia, which the latest indictment admits, what then?
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(07-16-2018 10:11 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Trump sided with Putin’s assessment versus our own intelligence agencies. Putin was forceful with Trump. He told him Russia didn’t have anything to do with it and Trump believes him.

He took the side of a Thug on foreign soil and people will still stand by him. Incredible.

You know while Obama was president he stated that publicly shaming Russia or confronting Putin would not be a wise decision and would do nothing but further worsen relations with Russia.

What did Trump do? He stated what our intelligence communities (who seemingly were wholly in the bag for Clinton during the election) stated about the situation, and then what Putin said. In other words, he didn't get into a public argument over it.

I would have loved Trump to have been more forceful or said something along the lines of "despite what US intelligence communities have said, Putin denies Russia had anything to to with the 'hack'. Until the evidence is made public and Russia has had a chance to defend itself we will never know all the facts." I don't necessarily know that would have been the best approach though. I tell people that I know are lying right to my face that I believe them all the time. They don't know I know the truth until they are so far up the creek without a paddle that I can get whatever I want from them.


I assume you wanted Trump to stand there and call Putin a liar for all the world to see, that way the dems could be right about Trump starting WWIII with Russia. On one hand the left says Trump isn't presidential or lacks the temperament fo the job, then when he acts in a levelheaded manner they accuse him of treason.
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(07-17-2018 07:30 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I believe the Russians stole Democratic analytics and put it to use through Cambridge Analytica. The stuff was so specific they had to inside knowledge with the help of the GOP. We are talking about precinct level targets of specific groups. White nurses aged 45-53. This group would get targeted messages. This wasn’t cheating on a test. This wasn’t knowing the answers before hand. This was knowing the other sides first scripted 40 plays in a football game. The. I think about McConnell and the Supreme Court justices. What happened here will not stand. If you can’t see that Putin has dirt on Trump by now you never will. If you can’t see McConell denied Obama a Supreme Court Justice by now, you never will. It’s about fairness. This is 20 Times worse than watergate because the plumbers worked for Nixon. Our President works for the crooks now. He’s compromised. Then all of the ramifications of that. It’s disatrous.

Assuming that's true, what could they have done with that? How did that stop the Democrats from using that? How did that stop HRC from campaigning in Wisconsin?

Use some common sense before repeating talking points.
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(07-16-2018 11:07 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Does anyone else think indicting a spy in a foriegn country is the height of stupidity. Are people stupid enough to take this seriously.

Yep. Especially since its not like they stole anything of value. They didn't steal defense secrets. And while they likely did steal DNC data, its not clear who disclosed it. It appears to be an insider. Its much better NOT to show what you know to foreign intelligence agencies, unlike what Mueller seems to be doing.
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/1...ummit.html

"...We do not know what President Trump and President Putin discussed in their two-hour, one-on-one meeting in Helsinki. We do not know what concessions the former KGB officer may have made, or what the former billionaire real estate mogul asked. We may never know how hard Trump pushed Putin on the hacking of the DNC and other intrusions into the U.S. democratic process.

But, we do know that since taking office, President Trump has taken a much harder line on Russia than did his predecessor. President Obama visited Moscow in 2009 and soon thereafter abandoned a missile defense system in Poland and the Czech Republic that infuriated Russia. Trump has since reinstated the program. Obama refused to send military-grade weapons to the Ukraine; Trump is doing so. Obama was reluctant to ramp up liquified natural gas exports that would compete with Russian gas, but Trump is prioritizing such shipments and calling out Germany for its reliance on Russian energy.

Trump has surrounded himself with Russia hawks like National Security Advisor John Bolton and Defense Secretary James Mattis. If he were in cahoots with the Kremlin, he has a funny way of showing it.

The reaction to the Helsinki conference was over the top, given how little we know about what went on behind the scenes. It was also sad. It’s almost as though Trump’s critics wanted him to fail. But wouldn't hoping for increased confrontations with Russia be…treasonous?"
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https://www.investors.com/politics/edito...tin-talks/

"...But Trump is also right about one thing: Obama knew about the Russian meddling but did nothing about it until December of 2016, well after the election. He didn't think it mattered. Then to cover up for his mistake, he hit Russian with sanctions and expelled diplomats just as he was about to leave office. And he did it with the connivance of FBI and Justice Department officials.

They had done Hillary Clinton's dirty work on their investigation all along.

And during this time, late 2016, the Democrats repeatedly refused to cooperate with a federal investigation. That's how important this alleged "treason" was to them.

Sorry, treason doesn't wash."
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Obama spent taxpayer dollars to influence another countries election.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/...netanyahu/
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