LOL I honestly thought that was Todge before reading the username

(08-04-2018 03:08 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Oklahoma Intercollegiate Conference (1914–1928)
Central Oklahoma 19-14-1928
Tulsa 1914-1928
Southwestern Oklahoma State 1914-1928
Oklahoma Baptist 1914-1928
Oklahoma City 1921-1928
Phillips 1914 -1928 1 year in the old SWC
East Central Oklahoma 1914-1928
Southeastern Oklahoma State
Northeastern Oklahoma State 1914-1928
Langston
Oklahoma 1914-1914
Oklahoma State 1914-1924
Kingfisher College 1914-1920
Northwestern Oklahoma State 1914-1928
Oklahoma Panhandle State
Cameron

Note, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State made a stop here before joining the MVC at that time.
Note 2: This conference went under a number of names until it finally disbanded in the mid 1970s. The new conference is now Sooner Athletics Conference in the NAIA level.

I could see 3 or 4 of these schools could move up to D1 in the future. Central Oklahoma Vs Tulsa would be nice to see old rivalries to start again. Or, Oklahoma Baptist Vs Tulsa in football could be wonderful with 2 private schools in Oklahoma to face each other again.

The D2 MIAA seems to be originally founded under a different name in 1912.

Two Okie private schools play every year, in fact they are conference mates. Oklahoma Baptist and Southern Nazarene. The football teams play on the 2nd Saturday in November. They even play a third private school in non-conference games in a few sports. Oklahoma Christian. So that wonderful thing you're hoping for already exists and there's no need to worry about an Oklahoma Baptist-Tulsa game that will never happen.

The D2 MIAA has always been the MIAA. The only thing that changed was what the "M" stood for, it was originally Missouri and changed to Mid-America when the Kansas schools started joining the conference.

And "Note 2" is all wrong on the facts.

(08-04-2018 11:48 PM)AZcats Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 03:08 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Oklahoma Intercollegiate Conference (1914–1928)
Central Oklahoma 19-14-1928
Tulsa 1914-1928
Southwestern Oklahoma State 1914-1928
Oklahoma Baptist 1914-1928
Oklahoma City 1921-1928
Phillips 1914 -1928 1 year in the old SWC
East Central Oklahoma 1914-1928
Southeastern Oklahoma State
Northeastern Oklahoma State 1914-1928
Langston
Oklahoma 1914-1914
Oklahoma State 1914-1924
Kingfisher College 1914-1920
Northwestern Oklahoma State 1914-1928
Oklahoma Panhandle State
Cameron

Note, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State made a stop here before joining the MVC at that time.
Note 2: This conference went under a number of names until it finally disbanded in the mid 1970s. The new conference is now Sooner Athletics Conference in the NAIA level.

I could see 3 or 4 of these schools could move up to D1 in the future. Central Oklahoma Vs Tulsa would be nice to see old rivalries to start again. Or, Oklahoma Baptist Vs Tulsa in football could be wonderful with 2 private schools in Oklahoma to face each other again.

The D2 MIAA seems to be originally founded under a different name in 1912.

Two Okie private schools play every year, in fact they are conference mates. Oklahoma Baptist and Southern Nazarene. The football teams play on the 2nd Saturday in November. They even play a third private school in non-conference games in a few sports. Oklahoma Christian. So that wonderful thing you're hoping for already exists and there's no need to worry about an Oklahoma Baptist-Tulsa game that will never happen.

The D2 MIAA has always been the MIAA. The only thing that changed was what the "M" stood for, it was originally Missouri and changed to Mid-America when the Kansas schools started joining the conference.

And "Note 2" is all wrong on the facts.

Yes. OBU is my school. SNU was our rival in the Sooner Athletic Conference. OC was our other rival. They didn't add football, but moved to D-II and joined the Heartland Conference. A third rival, Oklahoma City, remains in the NAIA. These are four church-related schools in or near Oklahoma City. None of us are on the same planet, athletically, as the University of Tulsa, much less OU or OSU. Our entire university budget is less than that of a Big 12 athletic department.

The old OIC morphed into the Oklahoma Collegiate Athletic Conference, which became the OIC once again from 1974-1996. The newer OIC was made up of public schools that played football. The Sooner Athletic Conference came into being around this time, made up primarily of private schools without football. Central State (now UCO) left the OIC, and eventually moved to Division II and the Lone Star Conference in 1988. The OIC went away when the remaining members moved to Division II and joined the Lone Star in 1997.

The Sooner Athletic Conference, meanwhile, has remained in the NAIA. It was originally made up of primarily private schools in Oklahoma, but has since become a regional NAIA conference with both public and private schools. They have also now picked up sponsorship of football from the former Central States Football League.

I'd like to bring back Kingfisher College and Phillips, though. I remember playing Phillips. Kingfisher College shut down a long time before I was born.

(08-04-2018 03:31 AM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Oh yes, the Great War. Memories, like it was yesterday.

Tannenburg, Somme, Jutland, Verdun, Gallipoli, the November Revolution, the Spanish flu, League of nations, Prohibition, Flappers, Capone, Mrs. Harding and the poisoned President -or so folklore-, Calvin Coolidge, stock market, the model-T, the Boardwalk (gangsters) meeting.

It would all change in 1929

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g

(08-05-2018 01:46 PM)johnintx Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 11:48 PM)AZcats Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 03:08 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Oklahoma Intercollegiate Conference (1914–1928)
Central Oklahoma 19-14-1928
Tulsa 1914-1928
Southwestern Oklahoma State 1914-1928
Oklahoma Baptist 1914-1928
Oklahoma City 1921-1928
Phillips 1914 -1928 1 year in the old SWC
East Central Oklahoma 1914-1928
Southeastern Oklahoma State
Northeastern Oklahoma State 1914-1928
Langston
Oklahoma 1914-1914
Oklahoma State 1914-1924
Kingfisher College 1914-1920
Northwestern Oklahoma State 1914-1928
Oklahoma Panhandle State
Cameron

Note, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State made a stop here before joining the MVC at that time.
Note 2: This conference went under a number of names until it finally disbanded in the mid 1970s. The new conference is now Sooner Athletics Conference in the NAIA level.

I could see 3 or 4 of these schools could move up to D1 in the future. Central Oklahoma Vs Tulsa would be nice to see old rivalries to start again. Or, Oklahoma Baptist Vs Tulsa in football could be wonderful with 2 private schools in Oklahoma to face each other again.

The D2 MIAA seems to be originally founded under a different name in 1912.

Two Okie private schools play every year, in fact they are conference mates. Oklahoma Baptist and Southern Nazarene. The football teams play on the 2nd Saturday in November. They even play a third private school in non-conference games in a few sports. Oklahoma Christian. So that wonderful thing you're hoping for already exists and there's no need to worry about an Oklahoma Baptist-Tulsa game that will never happen.

The D2 MIAA has always been the MIAA. The only thing that changed was what the "M" stood for, it was originally Missouri and changed to Mid-America when the Kansas schools started joining the conference.

And "Note 2" is all wrong on the facts.

Yes. OBU is my school. SNU was our rival in the Sooner Athletic Conference. OC was our other rival. They didn't add football, but moved to D-II and joined the Heartland Conference. A third rival, Oklahoma City, remains in the NAIA. These are four church-related schools in or near Oklahoma City. None of us are on the same planet, athletically, as the University of Tulsa, much less OU or OSU. Our entire university budget is less than that of a Big 12 athletic department.

The old OIC morphed into the Oklahoma Collegiate Athletic Conference, which became the OIC once again from 1974-1996. The newer OIC was made up of public schools that played football. The Sooner Athletic Conference came into being around this time, made up primarily of private schools without football. Central State (now UCO) left the OIC, and eventually moved to Division II and the Lone Star Conference in 1988. The OIC went away when the remaining members moved to Division II and joined the Lone Star in 1997.

The Sooner Athletic Conference, meanwhile, has remained in the NAIA. It was originally made up of primarily private schools in Oklahoma, but has since become a regional NAIA conference with both public and private schools. They have also now picked up sponsorship of football from the former Central States Football League.

I'd like to bring back Kingfisher College and Phillips, though. I remember playing Phillips. Kingfisher College shut down a long time before I was born.

Back then, the schools could compete against OU and Oklahoma State and Tulsa. Central Oklahoma did win some football conference Championship over both Tulsa and OSU. I think Phillips did one once, and I thought SW Oklahoma State and Oklahoma Baptist also had a title. Both Phillips and Oklahoma Baptist along with OKCU all dropped football. OKCU used to be D1 until the 1980s when they dropped down to the NAIA, but around 2009, they mentioned in an article that they wanted to rejoin D1 and maybe restart their football program. They did not get their paper work in in time for the deadline. The rules changed that they can not moved from NAIA, D3 or NJCAA without being in D2 for 8 years.

(08-06-2018 07:27 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(08-05-2018 01:46 PM)johnintx Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 11:48 PM)AZcats Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 03:08 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Oklahoma Intercollegiate Conference (1914–1928)
Central Oklahoma 19-14-1928
Tulsa 1914-1928
Southwestern Oklahoma State 1914-1928
Oklahoma Baptist 1914-1928
Oklahoma City 1921-1928
Phillips 1914 -1928 1 year in the old SWC
East Central Oklahoma 1914-1928
Southeastern Oklahoma State
Northeastern Oklahoma State 1914-1928
Langston
Oklahoma 1914-1914
Oklahoma State 1914-1924
Kingfisher College 1914-1920
Northwestern Oklahoma State 1914-1928
Oklahoma Panhandle State
Cameron

Note, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State made a stop here before joining the MVC at that time.
Note 2: This conference went under a number of names until it finally disbanded in the mid 1970s. The new conference is now Sooner Athletics Conference in the NAIA level.

I could see 3 or 4 of these schools could move up to D1 in the future. Central Oklahoma Vs Tulsa would be nice to see old rivalries to start again. Or, Oklahoma Baptist Vs Tulsa in football could be wonderful with 2 private schools in Oklahoma to face each other again.

The D2 MIAA seems to be originally founded under a different name in 1912.

Two Okie private schools play every year, in fact they are conference mates. Oklahoma Baptist and Southern Nazarene. The football teams play on the 2nd Saturday in November. They even play a third private school in non-conference games in a few sports. Oklahoma Christian. So that wonderful thing you're hoping for already exists and there's no need to worry about an Oklahoma Baptist-Tulsa game that will never happen.

The D2 MIAA has always been the MIAA. The only thing that changed was what the "M" stood for, it was originally Missouri and changed to Mid-America when the Kansas schools started joining the conference.

And "Note 2" is all wrong on the facts.

Yes. OBU is my school. SNU was our rival in the Sooner Athletic Conference. OC was our other rival. They didn't add football, but moved to D-II and joined the Heartland Conference. A third rival, Oklahoma City, remains in the NAIA. These are four church-related schools in or near Oklahoma City. None of us are on the same planet, athletically, as the University of Tulsa, much less OU or OSU. Our entire university budget is less than that of a Big 12 athletic department.

The old OIC morphed into the Oklahoma Collegiate Athletic Conference, which became the OIC once again from 1974-1996. The newer OIC was made up of public schools that played football. The Sooner Athletic Conference came into being around this time, made up primarily of private schools without football. Central State (now UCO) left the OIC, and eventually moved to Division II and the Lone Star Conference in 1988. The OIC went away when the remaining members moved to Division II and joined the Lone Star in 1997.

The Sooner Athletic Conference, meanwhile, has remained in the NAIA. It was originally made up of primarily private schools in Oklahoma, but has since become a regional NAIA conference with both public and private schools. They have also now picked up sponsorship of football from the former Central States Football League.

I'd like to bring back Kingfisher College and Phillips, though. I remember playing Phillips. Kingfisher College shut down a long time before I was born.

Back then, the schools could compete against OU and Oklahoma State and Tulsa. Central Oklahoma did win some football conference Championship over both Tulsa and OSU. I think Phillips did one once, and I thought SW Oklahoma State and Oklahoma Baptist also had a title. Both Phillips and Oklahoma Baptist along with OKCU all dropped football. OKCU used to be D1 until the 1980s when they dropped down to the NAIA, but around 2009, they mentioned in an article that they wanted to rejoin D1 and maybe restart their football program. They did not get their paper work in in time for the deadline. The rules changed that they can not moved from NAIA, D3 or NJCAA without being in D2 for 8 years.

Houston Baptist moved back to D1 straight from NAIA not long ago.

(08-06-2018 09:04 AM)seaking4steel Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 07:27 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Back then, the schools could compete against OU and Oklahoma State and Tulsa. Central Oklahoma did win some football conference Championship over both Tulsa and OSU. I think Phillips did one once, and I thought SW Oklahoma State and Oklahoma Baptist also had a title. Both Phillips and Oklahoma Baptist along with OKCU all dropped football. OKCU used to be D1 until the 1980s when they dropped down to the NAIA, but around 2009, they mentioned in an article that they wanted to rejoin D1 and maybe restart their football program. They did not get their paper work in in time for the deadline. The rules changed that they can not moved from NAIA, D3 or NJCAA without being in D2 for 8 years.

Houston Baptist moved back to D1 straight from NAIA not long ago.

I had to dig for this:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...id=3066716

Houston Baptist started the process to move back to D-I from the NAIA in 2007. Shortly after this, the NCAA created rules forbidding schools from moving to D-I from a level outside of D-II.

OCU (OKCU) considered a move back to D-I in the 2000's. The mayor of OKC was strongly encouraging it when the new downtown arena was built. Once the NBA came to OKC, that talk went away. When OCU moved to the NAIA, they became a 800 pound gorilla in multiple sports. They had some financial advantages then that I'm not sure exist any longer. I'm surprised they haven't moved to D-II, even without football. I can't verify it, but money may be an issue there now.