(08-06-2018 08:27 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 07:49 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  Yeah...

Thanks for the thought, but our big time "neutral site" game is basically a concession to the Miami U. Redchickens because nobody wants to drive all the way out to the hobbit shire to go to games at their glorified HS field.

I'm 99% sure that this is technically their home game and their attendance numbers boost for the year will be from 30,000 UC fans at this game.

Doesn't look like that is the case. UC plays them in Oxford 4 times through 2029. Alternates home, away, neutral, home, away, neutral...

Well note that it's no longer just a home and home series.

Had MU dug in their heels and said H&H UC probably would have told them to get lost. UC was getting a bit bored with the series. So, this was done to try and add a little spice to what has become a one sided "rivalry".

BK never liked it when he was here and had he stuck around, probably would have nixed it.

(08-07-2018 09:58 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 09:38 AM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  I have watched ECU play VT, South Carolina, WVU and NCST in Charlotte. It has always been a good time and I like the Bowl Game like atmosphere it provides. I have always thought we should go after Tennessee for a 1-1 deal with game @ TN and game at Bank of America Stadium just for the money based on the fact how much TN recruits Western NC and NC in general.

So you want to help Tennessee recruit your territory? A mid-west P5 team might be better. Like a TCU, Baylor or Arizona for example.

Rare for TN to go head to head with ECU. They are normally poaching UNCheat and NCSUX recruits. I would go to TN for the $1million paycheck and then play them in BOA for the exposure and the fact we have so many alumni in Raleigh and Charlotte to sell out the Stadium. Doubt a two game series is going to shift the recruiting dynamic in the State of NC that much.

If we were going out West I would love to play Oklahoma, OSU, Texas, Arizona St, Oregon ,Washington, Stanford etc.. but doubt we could get a return game of any type for them even offering up a split the revenue game at Charlotte. Not many of those Western Schools recruit NC much or have alumni base here so again if I was going to do a 1-1 deal in Charlotte it would be TN, Georgia, Clemson or Notre Dame

(08-06-2018 10:54 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Syracuse v. ND is not a neutral site game. It is a "Shamrock Series" game.

It is an ND home game moved from South Bend to Yankee Stadium.

NBC has the television rights and ND controls the ticket sales.

(08-06-2018 11:11 AM)Square Knight Wrote:  Technically, the Navy vs Notre Dame game is also a Navy home game. Navy just frequently (or always???) moves the home games vs Notre Dame to a NFL size stadium somewhere.

They frequently used the Baltimore Ravens Stadium but in recent years have moved the game to Landover MD, Jacksonville, FL and East Rutherford NJ, plus this year's game in San Diego.

Aren't just about all regular season games "technically" somebodies home game? The key difference (IMO) is whether the two teams share tickets more or less equally, or does the "home" team hoard them?

(08-10-2018 10:34 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 10:54 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Syracuse v. ND is not a neutral site game. It is a "Shamrock Series" game.

It is an ND home game moved from South Bend to Yankee Stadium.

NBC has the television rights and ND controls the ticket sales.

(08-06-2018 11:11 AM)Square Knight Wrote:  Technically, the Navy vs Notre Dame game is also a Navy home game. Navy just frequently (or always???) moves the home games vs Notre Dame to a NFL size stadium somewhere.

They frequently used the Baltimore Ravens Stadium but in recent years have moved the game to Landover MD, Jacksonville, FL and East Rutherford NJ, plus this year's game in San Diego.

Aren't just about all regular season games "technically" somebodies home game? The key difference (IMO) is whether the two teams share tickets more or less equally, or does the "home" team hoard them?

It's not just preponderance of tickets, it is ticket gate (and related revenue).
A true neutral site game, the organizer may give each team, say 10,000 tickets, pay each some guarantee, but keep the majority of them to sell for their pockets. What about advertising on all the flat surfaces? ND at Navy we pass a typical/slightly larger visitors allotment to ND, and we pay them a guarantee (my understanding is that it is equal number to what they give us in odd-numbered years in South Bend) and the rest of the ticket gate is ours. Stadium signage us at least part ours. I bet that the Holiday/Poinsettia Bowl committee who is hosting has separate deal with stadium authority about rent for the building, splitting concessions, parking etc.

(08-11-2018 07:43 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(08-10-2018 10:34 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 10:54 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Syracuse v. ND is not a neutral site game. It is a "Shamrock Series" game.

It is an ND home game moved from South Bend to Yankee Stadium.

NBC has the television rights and ND controls the ticket sales.

(08-06-2018 11:11 AM)Square Knight Wrote:  Technically, the Navy vs Notre Dame game is also a Navy home game. Navy just frequently (or always???) moves the home games vs Notre Dame to a NFL size stadium somewhere.

They frequently used the Baltimore Ravens Stadium but in recent years have moved the game to Landover MD, Jacksonville, FL and East Rutherford NJ, plus this year's game in San Diego.

Aren't just about all regular season games "technically" somebodies home game? The key difference (IMO) is whether the two teams share tickets more or less equally, or does the "home" team hoard them?

It's not just preponderance of tickets, it is ticket gate (and related revenue).
A true neutral site game, the organizer may give each team, say 10,000 tickets, pay each some guarantee, but keep the majority of them to sell for their pockets. What about advertising on all the flat surfaces? ND at Navy we pass a typical/slightly larger visitors allotment to ND, and we pay them a guarantee (my understanding is that it is equal number to what they give us in odd-numbered years in South Bend) and the rest of the ticket gate is ours. Stadium signage us at least part ours. I bet that the Holiday/Poinsettia Bowl committee who is hosting has separate deal with stadium authority about rent for the building, splitting concessions, parking etc.

It is similar regarding the ND/Syracuse game. The end zones will have the ND Stadium diagonal lines, the logo on the field will say ND, the Irish control the gate and give a "visitors" allotment of tickets to Syracuse and NBC televises the game because it is an ND home game....just taken on the road to someplace else.