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(08-12-2018 03:55 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  Tulsa is an asset to the conference and isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

I do have one question which Tulsa posters might help answer. As I recall, Tulsa got the last AAC invite from CUSA and at the time there seemed to be some hesitation from the Tulsa admin about accepting the offer. Is that correct?

Interesting if true. Would have been like Tulane leaving the SEC - very regrettable.
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(08-12-2018 03:55 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  Tulsa is an asset to the conference and isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

I do have one question which Tulsa posters might help answer. As I recall, Tulsa got the last AAC invite from CUSA and at the time there seemed to be some hesitation from the Tulsa admin about accepting the offer. Is that correct?

Not exactly. Tulsa was offered an invite prior to Tulane and ECU’s football only invite. It took a little time to get it approved by the BOT because of how things work at TU. It was kept quiet until the very last minute deal... also there was WIDE speculation that TU also received an invite from the MWC right before the Big East invite came... so there was that piece too.

TU didn’t want to go west again so the Big East was he obvious choice.

In the end the right decision was made and whether some posters want to admit it or not, Tulsa does bring value to the conference in a variety of ways... just like everyone else. This is a great group of schools and conference is only getting better and better each year. We’re already on par with the old Big East and there is no sign of our progress slowing down any time soon.

Finally - I appreciate the kind words and look forward to our game at Memphis later this season.

Oh yeah and lol at the morons on the CUSA board who are still butthurt and took this article and ran with it (particularly a very angry Marshall fan).
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(08-12-2018 05:20 PM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 03:55 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  Tulsa is an asset to the conference and isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

I do have one question which Tulsa posters might help answer. As I recall, Tulsa got the last AAC invite from CUSA and at the time there seemed to be some hesitation from the Tulsa admin about accepting the offer. Is that correct?

Not exactly. Tulsa was offered an invite prior to Tulane and ECU’s football only invite. It took a little time to get it approved by the BOT because of how things work at TU. It was kept quiet until the very last minute deal... also there was WIDE speculation that TU also received an invite from the MWC right before the Big East invite came... so there was that piece too.

TU didn’t want to go west again so the Big East was he obvious choice.

In the end the right decision was made and whether some posters want to admit it or not, Tulsa does bring value to the conference in a variety of ways... just like everyone else. This is a great group of schools and conference is only getting better and better each year. We’re already on par with the old Big East and there is no sign of our progress slowing down any time soon.

Finally - I appreciate the kind words and look forward to our game at Memphis later this season.

Oh yeah and lol at the morons on the CUSA board who are still butthurt and took this article and ran with it (particularly a very angry Marshall fan).

This "story" made the SunBelt and Conference Realignment boards too. The talk of your demise is very popular. LOL.
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This is not the only cut of sports by Tulsa. In 2016 they cut men's golf. That saves 4.5 scholarships.

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Tulsa is getting the Tulane treatment right now. This is harsh - although Tulsa should NOT have had this leak.
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(08-12-2018 05:48 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 05:20 PM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 03:55 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  Tulsa is an asset to the conference and isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

I do have one question which Tulsa posters might help answer. As I recall, Tulsa got the last AAC invite from CUSA and at the time there seemed to be some hesitation from the Tulsa admin about accepting the offer. Is that correct?

Not exactly. Tulsa was offered an invite prior to Tulane and ECU’s football only invite. It took a little time to get it approved by the BOT because of how things work at TU. It was kept quiet until the very last minute deal... also there was WIDE speculation that TU also received an invite from the MWC right before the Big East invite came... so there was that piece too.

TU didn’t want to go west again so the Big East was he obvious choice.

In the end the right decision was made and whether some posters want to admit it or not, Tulsa does bring value to the conference in a variety of ways... just like everyone else. This is a great group of schools and conference is only getting better and better each year. We’re already on par with the old Big East and there is no sign of our progress slowing down any time soon.

Finally - I appreciate the kind words and look forward to our game at Memphis later this season.

Oh yeah and lol at the morons on the CUSA board who are still butthurt and took this article and ran with it (particularly a very angry Marshall fan).

This "story" made the SunBelt and Conference Realignment boards too. The talk of your demise is very popular. LOL.

Wow. I really didn't think this would get the kind of reaction it has or I wouldn't have posted this thread.

I guess the silver lining is people have talked about our school as much now as they have the whole time we've been in this conference. Be it good or bad talk.
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(08-12-2018 12:37 PM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 11:55 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(08-11-2018 09:22 PM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  This was obviously not a good look for TU... there are a few things that are going on behind the scenes due to some decisions by the former president. No way to sugar coat it, but the article skewed what really happened with all this.

The only people who are getting bent out of shape about this are the cool folks around here that admittedly hate Tulsa. Oh and the cool cat SMU mustangs who takes every possible opportunity to trash Tulsa. He thinks he’s in the know, but in reality, he just has a chip on his shoulder and likes to run TU through the mud.

Give it a rest fella.

I think you are confusing interest with hate. I do not see any posters on here getting bent out of shape or hating on Tulsa. Also, the newspaper article you refer to, seemed factual to me.

This is not the type of thing any fan wants their school to endure. However, ignoring the situation will not alleviate the problem.

Big difference between ignoring and sensationalizing it. And you know good and well that you LOVE to crap talk TU every chance you get.

Sensationalizing? Who is doing that? LOL.

I have not crapped on TU, unless you consider reporting facts crapping. Quite the contrary, I have been complimentary of TU. However, I am a realist and a stickler for correctness. I do not drink the TU koolaid that many TU fans do. To me, it is what it is. I call a spade a spade, regardless the school.

Evidently what you want, is to only see posts that magnify TU. This is a message board where people are free to express their opinions and report what they feel applies to the subject. If you do not like my posts, put me on your ignore list....fella.
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Tulsa has always done more with less!

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(08-13-2018 11:17 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 12:37 PM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 11:55 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(08-11-2018 09:22 PM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  This was obviously not a good look for TU... there are a few things that are going on behind the scenes due to some decisions by the former president. No way to sugar coat it, but the article skewed what really happened with all this.

The only people who are getting bent out of shape about this are the cool folks around here that admittedly hate Tulsa. Oh and the cool cat SMU mustangs who takes every possible opportunity to trash Tulsa. He thinks he’s in the know, but in reality, he just has a chip on his shoulder and likes to run TU through the mud.

Give it a rest fella.

I think you are confusing interest with hate. I do not see any posters on here getting bent out of shape or hating on Tulsa. Also, the newspaper article you refer to, seemed factual to me.

This is not the type of thing any fan wants their school to endure. However, ignoring the situation will not alleviate the problem.

Big difference between ignoring and sensationalizing it. And you know good and well that you LOVE to crap talk TU every chance you get.

Sensationalizing? Who is doing that? LOL.

I have not crapped on TU, unless you consider reporting facts crapping. Quite the contrary, I have been complimentary of TU. However, I am a realist and a stickler for correctness. I do not drink the TU koolaid that many TU fans do. To me, it is what it is. I call a spade a spade, regardless the school.

Evidently what you want, is to only see posts that magnify TU. This is a message board where people are free to express their opinions and report what they feel applies to the subject. If you do not like my posts, put me on your ignore list....fella.

Ah the old innocent card. Funny that you only post negatively about Tulsa and no other institution and I’ve yet to see you post anything positive about Tulsa... either way I’m calling a “spade a spade” on your crap. Both you and I (as well as everyone else here) know you go out of your way to take as many shots at TU as you can.

What I want is for haters like you to give it a rest. You’ve confused being a “stickler for correctness” with just being a dbag.

Finally many of the things you say about Tulsa could also be said about SMU... but you don’t see me here taking shots for no reason.
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(08-13-2018 05:19 PM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 11:17 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 12:37 PM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 11:55 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(08-11-2018 09:22 PM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  This was obviously not a good look for TU... there are a few things that are going on behind the scenes due to some decisions by the former president. No way to sugar coat it, but the article skewed what really happened with all this.

The only people who are getting bent out of shape about this are the cool folks around here that admittedly hate Tulsa. Oh and the cool cat SMU mustangs who takes every possible opportunity to trash Tulsa. He thinks he’s in the know, but in reality, he just has a chip on his shoulder and likes to run TU through the mud.

Give it a rest fella.

I think you are confusing interest with hate. I do not see any posters on here getting bent out of shape or hating on Tulsa. Also, the newspaper article you refer to, seemed factual to me.

This is not the type of thing any fan wants their school to endure. However, ignoring the situation will not alleviate the problem.

Big difference between ignoring and sensationalizing it. And you know good and well that you LOVE to crap talk TU every chance you get.

Sensationalizing? Who is doing that? LOL.

I have not crapped on TU, unless you consider reporting facts crapping. Quite the contrary, I have been complimentary of TU. However, I am a realist and a stickler for correctness. I do not drink the TU koolaid that many TU fans do. To me, it is what it is. I call a spade a spade, regardless the school.

Evidently what you want, is to only see posts that magnify TU. This is a message board where people are free to express their opinions and report what they feel applies to the subject. If you do not like my posts, put me on your ignore list....fella.

Ah the old innocent card. Funny that you only post negatively about Tulsa and no other institution and I’ve yet to see you post anything positive about Tulsa... either way I’m calling a “spade a spade” on your crap. Both you and I (as well as everyone else here) know you go out of your way to take as many shots at TU as you can.

What I want is for haters like you to give it a rest. You’ve confused u “stickler for correctness” with just being a dbag.

Finally many of the things you say about Tulsa could also be said about SMU... but you don’t see me here taking shots for no reason.

I do not have an interest in a lot of other institutions. You are correct about SMU and I have said so, but I guess Dallas is not your home town, thus you have no interest in SMU.

Finally, I will paraphrase a quote by the great Rhett Butler in Gone With the Wind...."I don't give a darn what you want".
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I think the columnist had the info anyway so it was better to provide factual info then to let them speculate wildly.
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(08-12-2018 05:20 PM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 03:55 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  Tulsa is an asset to the conference and isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

I do have one question which Tulsa posters might help answer. As I recall, Tulsa got the last AAC invite from CUSA and at the time there seemed to be some hesitation from the Tulsa admin about accepting the offer. Is that correct?

Not exactly. Tulsa was offered an invite prior to Tulane and ECU’s football only invite. It took a little time to get it approved by the BOT because of how things work at TU. It was kept quiet until the very last minute deal... also there was WIDE speculation that TU also received an invite from the MWC right before the Big East invite came... so there was that piece too.

TU didn’t want to go west again so the Big East was he obvious choice.

In the end the right decision was made and whether some posters want to admit it or not, Tulsa does bring value to the conference in a variety of ways... just like everyone else. This is a great group of schools and conference is only getting better and better each year. We’re already on par with the old Big East and there is no sign of our progress slowing down any time soon.

Finally - I appreciate the kind words and look forward to our game at Memphis later this season.

Oh yeah and lol at the morons on the CUSA board who are still butthurt and took this article and ran with it (particularly a very angry Marshall fan).

Hilarious. The internet wins again.

No slight on Tulsa as they truly have accomplished more with less than 90% of schools in the nation, but that is just an absurd comment. Any CUSA at the time would go begging to get into the BE/AAC and out of CUSA. It's just absurd. Hell, even now any CUSA school (S Miss/Rice in particular) would literally sell their first born to get an AAC invite, and that is after the BE schools left (which was not the case when this supposed invite was granted to Tulsa before Tulane and ECU).
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(08-14-2018 10:09 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 05:19 PM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 11:17 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 12:37 PM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 11:55 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  I think you are confusing interest with hate. I do not see any posters on here getting bent out of shape or hating on Tulsa. Also, the newspaper article you refer to, seemed factual to me.

This is not the type of thing any fan wants their school to endure. However, ignoring the situation will not alleviate the problem.

Big difference between ignoring and sensationalizing it. And you know good and well that you LOVE to crap talk TU every chance you get.

Sensationalizing? Who is doing that? LOL.

I have not crapped on TU, unless you consider reporting facts crapping. Quite the contrary, I have been complimentary of TU. However, I am a realist and a stickler for correctness. I do not drink the TU koolaid that many TU fans do. To me, it is what it is. I call a spade a spade, regardless the school.

Evidently what you want, is to only see posts that magnify TU. This is a message board where people are free to express their opinions and report what they feel applies to the subject. If you do not like my posts, put me on your ignore list....fella.

Ah the old innocent card. Funny that you only post negatively about Tulsa and no other institution and I’ve yet to see you post anything positive about Tulsa... either way I’m calling a “spade a spade” on your crap. Both you and I (as well as everyone else here) know you go out of your way to take as many shots at TU as you can.

What I want is for haters like you to give it a rest. You’ve confused u “stickler for correctness” with just being a dbag.

Finally many of the things you say about Tulsa could also be said about SMU... but you don’t see me here taking shots for no reason.

I do not have an interest in a lot of other institutions. You are correct about SMU and I have said so, but I guess Dallas is not your home town, thus you have no interest in SMU.

Finally, I will paraphrase a quote by the great Rhett Butler in Gone With the Wind...."I don't give a darn what you want".

I’m well aware that you won’t be giving it a rest anytime soon... you get your jollies by trying to take Tulsa down a notch every opportunity you get.

Any time anything is posted about Tulsa, you’re there to put a negative spin on it or make it sound worse than it did by pretending to be a “stickler for correctness”
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(08-14-2018 10:29 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 05:20 PM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 03:55 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  Tulsa is an asset to the conference and isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

I do have one question which Tulsa posters might help answer. As I recall, Tulsa got the last AAC invite from CUSA and at the time there seemed to be some hesitation from the Tulsa admin about accepting the offer. Is that correct?

Not exactly. Tulsa was offered an invite prior to Tulane and ECU’s football only invite. It took a little time to get it approved by the BOT because of how things work at TU. It was kept quiet until the very last minute deal... also there was WIDE speculation that TU also received an invite from the MWC right before the Big East invite came... so there was that piece too.

TU didn’t want to go west again so the Big East was he obvious choice.

In the end the right decision was made and whether some posters want to admit it or not, Tulsa does bring value to the conference in a variety of ways... just like everyone else. This is a great group of schools and conference is only getting better and better each year. We’re already on par with the old Big East and there is no sign of our progress slowing down any time soon.

Finally - I appreciate the kind words and look forward to our game at Memphis later this season.

Oh yeah and lol at the morons on the CUSA board who are still butthurt and took this article and ran with it (particularly a very angry Marshall fan).

Hilarious. The internet wins again.

No slight on Tulsa as they truly have accomplished more with less than 90% of schools in the nation, but that is just an absurd comment. Any CUSA at the time would go begging to get into the BE/AAC and out of CUSA. It's just absurd. Hell, even now any CUSA school (S Miss/Rice in particular) would literally sell their first born to get an AAC invite, and that is after the BE schools left (which was not the case when this supposed invite was granted to Tulsa before Tulane and ECU).

You can think what you want, friend. I respect Tulane and what they do as well, but I know without a doubt the Big East came knocking before those two invites went out. It is what it is though - we’re all in this together 04-cheers
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(08-14-2018 10:26 AM)Clarence Iba Wrote:  I think the columnist had the info anyway so it was better to provide factual info then to let them speculate wildly.

“Factual info”
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(08-14-2018 10:36 AM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(08-14-2018 10:29 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 05:20 PM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 03:55 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  Tulsa is an asset to the conference and isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

I do have one question which Tulsa posters might help answer. As I recall, Tulsa got the last AAC invite from CUSA and at the time there seemed to be some hesitation from the Tulsa admin about accepting the offer. Is that correct?

Not exactly. Tulsa was offered an invite prior to Tulane and ECU’s football only invite. It took a little time to get it approved by the BOT because of how things work at TU. It was kept quiet until the very last minute deal... also there was WIDE speculation that TU also received an invite from the MWC right before the Big East invite came... so there was that piece too.

TU didn’t want to go west again so the Big East was he obvious choice.

In the end the right decision was made and whether some posters want to admit it or not, Tulsa does bring value to the conference in a variety of ways... just like everyone else. This is a great group of schools and conference is only getting better and better each year. We’re already on par with the old Big East and there is no sign of our progress slowing down any time soon.

Finally - I appreciate the kind words and look forward to our game at Memphis later this season.

Oh yeah and lol at the morons on the CUSA board who are still butthurt and took this article and ran with it (particularly a very angry Marshall fan).

Hilarious. The internet wins again.

No slight on Tulsa as they truly have accomplished more with less than 90% of schools in the nation, but that is just an absurd comment. Any CUSA at the time would go begging to get into the BE/AAC and out of CUSA. It's just absurd. Hell, even now any CUSA school (S Miss/Rice in particular) would literally sell their first born to get an AAC invite, and that is after the BE schools left (which was not the case when this supposed invite was granted to Tulsa before Tulane and ECU).

You can think what you want, friend. I respect Tulane and what they do as well, but I know without a doubt the Big East came knocking before those two invites went out. It is what it is though - we’re all in this together 04-cheers

It's largely irrelevant at this point but I would like to see even the smallest shred of evidence. The Tulsa board should be fired immediately if it took them over a year to accept a golden parachute out of the CUSA swamp. As I said, at the time of the Tulane invite, every CUSA would have accepted a BE/AAC invite without even a second of trepidation. To say otherwise is to ignore reality, not to mention if your story is true, you would have been also rejecting an opportunity to play Bball with all the current BE schools, that alone would have been worth the move (nevermind getting to play AAC FBall schools over the awful CUSA lineup). Like I said, it seems like fantasy land. Again, this is no slight to Tulsa, just reality. Unfortunately the Tulsa market just doesn't move the dial despite you guys consistently winning. Frankly, as Tulane alum it is a joke that we perform like crap while Tulsa does so much more with arguably less.
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(08-14-2018 10:45 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  
(08-14-2018 10:36 AM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(08-14-2018 10:29 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 05:20 PM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 03:55 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  Tulsa is an asset to the conference and isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

I do have one question which Tulsa posters might help answer. As I recall, Tulsa got the last AAC invite from CUSA and at the time there seemed to be some hesitation from the Tulsa admin about accepting the offer. Is that correct?

Not exactly. Tulsa was offered an invite prior to Tulane and ECU’s football only invite. It took a little time to get it approved by the BOT because of how things work at TU. It was kept quiet until the very last minute deal... also there was WIDE speculation that TU also received an invite from the MWC right before the Big East invite came... so there was that piece too.

TU didn’t want to go west again so the Big East was he obvious choice.

In the end the right decision was made and whether some posters want to admit it or not, Tulsa does bring value to the conference in a variety of ways... just like everyone else. This is a great group of schools and conference is only getting better and better each year. We’re already on par with the old Big East and there is no sign of our progress slowing down any time soon.

Finally - I appreciate the kind words and look forward to our game at Memphis later this season.

Oh yeah and lol at the morons on the CUSA board who are still butthurt and took this article and ran with it (particularly a very angry Marshall fan).

Hilarious. The internet wins again.

No slight on Tulsa as they truly have accomplished more with less than 90% of schools in the nation, but that is just an absurd comment. Any CUSA at the time would go begging to get into the BE/AAC and out of CUSA. It's just absurd. Hell, even now any CUSA school (S Miss/Rice in particular) would literally sell their first born to get an AAC invite, and that is after the BE schools left (which was not the case when this supposed invite was granted to Tulsa before Tulane and ECU).

You can think what you want, friend. I respect Tulane and what they do as well, but I know without a doubt the Big East came knocking before those two invites went out. It is what it is though - we’re all in this together 04-cheers

It's largely irrelevant at this point but I would like to see even the smallest shred of evidence. The Tulsa board should be fired immediately if it took them over a year to accept a golden parachute out of the CUSA swamp. As I said, at the time of the Tulane invite, every CUSA would have accepted a BE/AAC invite without even a second of trepidation. To say otherwise is to ignore reality, not to mention if your story is true, you would have been also rejecting an opportunity to play Bball with all the current BE schools, that alone would have been worth the move (nevermind getting to play AAC FBall schools over the awful CUSA lineup). Like I said, it seems like fantasy land. Again, this is no slight to Tulsa, just reality. Unfortunately the Tulsa market just doesn't move the dial despite you guys consistently winning. Frankly, as Tulane alum it is a joke that we perform like crap while Tulsa does so much more with arguably less.

You’re making a very valid point and it’s unfortunate for us. You’re 100% correct that almost anyone would have jumped at the opportunity. In our case it took some convincing of the board due to some non-athletic minded individuals who carry some clout. We not only have to fight for respect on the outside, but also within our own university community (regarding athletics).
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RE: Tulsa Doing Even More With Even Less?
(08-14-2018 10:45 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  
(08-14-2018 10:36 AM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(08-14-2018 10:29 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 05:20 PM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 03:55 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  Tulsa is an asset to the conference and isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

I do have one question which Tulsa posters might help answer. As I recall, Tulsa got the last AAC invite from CUSA and at the time there seemed to be some hesitation from the Tulsa admin about accepting the offer. Is that correct?

Not exactly. Tulsa was offered an invite prior to Tulane and ECU’s football only invite. It took a little time to get it approved by the BOT because of how things work at TU. It was kept quiet until the very last minute deal... also there was WIDE speculation that TU also received an invite from the MWC right before the Big East invite came... so there was that piece too.

TU didn’t want to go west again so the Big East was he obvious choice.

In the end the right decision was made and whether some posters want to admit it or not, Tulsa does bring value to the conference in a variety of ways... just like everyone else. This is a great group of schools and conference is only getting better and better each year. We’re already on par with the old Big East and there is no sign of our progress slowing down any time soon.

Finally - I appreciate the kind words and look forward to our game at Memphis later this season.

Oh yeah and lol at the morons on the CUSA board who are still butthurt and took this article and ran with it (particularly a very angry Marshall fan).

Hilarious. The internet wins again.

No slight on Tulsa as they truly have accomplished more with less than 90% of schools in the nation, but that is just an absurd comment. Any CUSA at the time would go begging to get into the BE/AAC and out of CUSA. It's just absurd. Hell, even now any CUSA school (S Miss/Rice in particular) would literally sell their first born to get an AAC invite, and that is after the BE schools left (which was not the case when this supposed invite was granted to Tulsa before Tulane and ECU).

You can think what you want, friend. I respect Tulane and what they do as well, but I know without a doubt the Big East came knocking before those two invites went out. It is what it is though - we’re all in this together 04-cheers

It's largely irrelevant at this point but I would like to see even the smallest shred of evidence. The Tulsa board should be fired immediately if it took them over a year to accept a golden parachute out of the CUSA swamp. As I said, at the time of the Tulane invite, every CUSA would have accepted a BE/AAC invite without even a second of trepidation. To say otherwise is to ignore reality, not to mention if your story is true, you would have been also rejecting an opportunity to play Bball with all the current BE schools, that alone would have been worth the move (nevermind getting to play AAC FBall schools over the awful CUSA lineup). Like I said, it seems like fantasy land. Again, this is no slight to Tulsa, just reality. Unfortunately the Tulsa market just doesn't move the dial despite you guys consistently winning. Frankly, as Tulane alum it is a joke that we perform like crap while Tulsa does so much more with arguably less.


The initial offer was for football only to match with the others in the "west wing". Tulsa took a while considering it, the mwc took some interest as everyone was scrambling around. Tulsa didn't want to split teams and was distrustful of the mwc after the WAC 16 fiasco. The changing situation presented Tulsa with the opportunity for full membership going east with teams they had established good relationships with. Bob's your uncle, Tulsa is in the AAC.
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RE: Tulsa Doing Even More With Even Less?
(08-14-2018 10:56 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(08-14-2018 10:45 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  
(08-14-2018 10:36 AM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(08-14-2018 10:29 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  
(08-12-2018 05:20 PM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  Not exactly. Tulsa was offered an invite prior to Tulane and ECU’s football only invite. It took a little time to get it approved by the BOT because of how things work at TU. It was kept quiet until the very last minute deal... also there was WIDE speculation that TU also received an invite from the MWC right before the Big East invite came... so there was that piece too.

TU didn’t want to go west again so the Big East was he obvious choice.

In the end the right decision was made and whether some posters want to admit it or not, Tulsa does bring value to the conference in a variety of ways... just like everyone else. This is a great group of schools and conference is only getting better and better each year. We’re already on par with the old Big East and there is no sign of our progress slowing down any time soon.

Finally - I appreciate the kind words and look forward to our game at Memphis later this season.

Oh yeah and lol at the morons on the CUSA board who are still butthurt and took this article and ran with it (particularly a very angry Marshall fan).

Hilarious. The internet wins again.

No slight on Tulsa as they truly have accomplished more with less than 90% of schools in the nation, but that is just an absurd comment. Any CUSA at the time would go begging to get into the BE/AAC and out of CUSA. It's just absurd. Hell, even now any CUSA school (S Miss/Rice in particular) would literally sell their first born to get an AAC invite, and that is after the BE schools left (which was not the case when this supposed invite was granted to Tulsa before Tulane and ECU).

You can think what you want, friend. I respect Tulane and what they do as well, but I know without a doubt the Big East came knocking before those two invites went out. It is what it is though - we’re all in this together 04-cheers

It's largely irrelevant at this point but I would like to see even the smallest shred of evidence. The Tulsa board should be fired immediately if it took them over a year to accept a golden parachute out of the CUSA swamp. As I said, at the time of the Tulane invite, every CUSA would have accepted a BE/AAC invite without even a second of trepidation. To say otherwise is to ignore reality, not to mention if your story is true, you would have been also rejecting an opportunity to play Bball with all the current BE schools, that alone would have been worth the move (nevermind getting to play AAC FBall schools over the awful CUSA lineup). Like I said, it seems like fantasy land. Again, this is no slight to Tulsa, just reality. Unfortunately the Tulsa market just doesn't move the dial despite you guys consistently winning. Frankly, as Tulane alum it is a joke that we perform like crap while Tulsa does so much more with arguably less.


The initial offer was for football only to match with the others in the "west wing". Tulsa took a while considering it, the mwc took some interest as everyone was scrambling around. Tulsa didn't want to split teams and was distrustful of the mwc after the WAC 16 fiasco. The changing situation presented Tulsa with the opportunity for full membership going east with teams they had established good relationships with. Bob's your uncle, Tulsa is in the AAC.

Explain to me one good reason why the BE would offer Tulsa a FBall only invite over ECU? It's asinine.

This is the first I have heard of this and I am still waiting for one shred of evidence. You are aware that there are many many rumors that get thrown around, especially about conference realignment. Hell virtually every current AAC member at one time (according to the interwebs) was just a few days away from a B12/ACC invite.
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RE: Tulsa Doing Even More With Even Less?
(08-14-2018 11:02 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  
(08-14-2018 10:56 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(08-14-2018 10:45 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  
(08-14-2018 10:36 AM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(08-14-2018 10:29 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  Hilarious. The internet wins again.

No slight on Tulsa as they truly have accomplished more with less than 90% of schools in the nation, but that is just an absurd comment. Any CUSA at the time would go begging to get into the BE/AAC and out of CUSA. It's just absurd. Hell, even now any CUSA school (S Miss/Rice in particular) would literally sell their first born to get an AAC invite, and that is after the BE schools left (which was not the case when this supposed invite was granted to Tulsa before Tulane and ECU).

You can think what you want, friend. I respect Tulane and what they do as well, but I know without a doubt the Big East came knocking before those two invites went out. It is what it is though - we’re all in this together 04-cheers

It's largely irrelevant at this point but I would like to see even the smallest shred of evidence. The Tulsa board should be fired immediately if it took them over a year to accept a golden parachute out of the CUSA swamp. As I said, at the time of the Tulane invite, every CUSA would have accepted a BE/AAC invite without even a second of trepidation. To say otherwise is to ignore reality, not to mention if your story is true, you would have been also rejecting an opportunity to play Bball with all the current BE schools, that alone would have been worth the move (nevermind getting to play AAC FBall schools over the awful CUSA lineup). Like I said, it seems like fantasy land. Again, this is no slight to Tulsa, just reality. Unfortunately the Tulsa market just doesn't move the dial despite you guys consistently winning. Frankly, as Tulane alum it is a joke that we perform like crap while Tulsa does so much more with arguably less.


The initial offer was for football only to match with the others in the "west wing". Tulsa took a while considering it, the mwc took some interest as everyone was scrambling around. Tulsa didn't want to split teams and was distrustful of the mwc after the WAC 16 fiasco. The changing situation presented Tulsa with the opportunity for full membership going east with teams they had established good relationships with. Bob's your uncle, Tulsa is in the AAC.

Explain to me one good reason why the BE would offer Tulsa a FBall only invite over ECU? It's asinine.

This is the first I have heard of this and I am still waiting for one shred of evidence. You are aware that there are many many rumors that get thrown around, especially about conference realignment. Hell virtually every current AAC member at one time (according to the interwebs) was just a few days away from a B12/ACC invite.

Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant to the offer being made. I’m sure you were much more interested in what Tulane was doing back then than what Tulsa was doing. There were lots of discussions about this among TU fans at the time. The big issue was that it was football only, if it had been all sports there would have been no hesitation. About half of the fans were pushing to accept the MWC offer of full membership. When the full membership offer came from the BE, about the same time they changed the ECU and Tulane offers to full membership, then they were fairly quick to accept.
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