It's still early but once again, the AAC seems to be clearly separating itself from its 'peers' in terms of the ability to recruit.

In 247, the AAC represents 6 of the top 9 outside of the 'P5' & ECU & SMU are ahead of 13 'P5' programs. & remember we're talking about one conference vs 4 here & the AAC nonetheless represents 2/3 of the top 9.

49) ECU
50) SMU
54) ULL
55) NT
56) Miami (OH)
57) UH
58) UC
60) Temple
61) UCF
65) WMU
69) CMU
71) USF
72) Toledo
74) Memphis

In Rivals, the AAC has the top 4 'non-P5' class rankings so far & Temple is ahead of 17 'P5' programs while ECU & SMU are ahead of 16 respectively.

45) Temple
48) ECU
49) SMU
52) UC
54) Miami (OH)
55) NT
61) UCF
63) UH
65) CMU
67) WMU
70) USF
71) Memphis

I know this recruiting cycle is far from over and it is just one year but this seems to be par for the course over the last few seasons. The AAC is clearly a 'tweener' conference from a recruiting perspective but can it be accurately stated that the AAC is actually closer to the 'P5' than the 'G4' yet?

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(08-08-2018 03:39 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  It's still early but once again, the AAC seems to be clearly separating itself from its 'peers' in terms of the ability to recruit.

In 247, the AAC represents 6 of the top 9 outside of the 'P5' & ECU & SMU are ahead of 13 'P5' programs. & remember we're talking about one conference vs 4 here & the AAC nonetheless represents 2/3 of the top 9.

49) ECU
50) SMU
54) ULL
55) NT
56) Miami (OH)
57) UH
58) UC
60) Temple
61) UCF
65) WMU
69) CMU
71) USF
72) Toledo
74) Memphis

In Rivals, the AAC has the top 4 'non-P5' class rankings so far & Temple is ahead of 17 'P5' programs while ECU & SMU are ahead of 16 respectively.

45) Temple
48) ECU
49) SMU
52) UC
54) Miami (OH)
55) NT
61) UCF
63) UH
65) CMU
67) WMU
70) USF
71) Memphis

I know this recruiting cycle is far from over and it is just one year but this seems to be par for the course over the last few seasons. The AAC is clearly a 'tweener' conference from a recruiting perspective but cDoesn'tan it be accurately stated that the AAC is actually closer to the 'P5' than the 'G4' yet?

Doesn't mention that a number of those higher ranked schools already have
Classes of 20+, while a number of the ranked only have 12 or 13 commits.

Rivals doesn't do a very good job of keeping up teams that don't have active sites.

i think we are viewed as a tweener by recruits.

Once you get so far down the list of football prospects I’m not sure how valuable recruiting ratings are. No doubt guys at the top are the biggest, baddest dudes, but Anthony Miller (arguably our best receiver of all time) was a walk on.

If you re-ranked these guys after their college careers, what would they be? IMO Miller would go from unranked to a 4 Star guy. Pretty big swing.

Yeah, those ranking are skewed due to size of class. Should look at average per recruit. LaTech, North Texas, Boise, SDSU, Troy should all be up there among the Top AAC teams. And all but P5 have trouble getting 4*,5* recruits, therefore lower ranking. The 3*s may well develop into 4* or better later, though.

(08-08-2018 03:39 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  It's still early but once again, the AAC seems to be clearly separating itself from its 'peers' in terms of the ability to recruit.

In 247, the AAC represents 6 of the top 9 outside of the 'P5' & ECU & SMU are ahead of 13 'P5' programs. & remember we're talking about one conference vs 4 here & the AAC nonetheless represents 2/3 of the top 9.

49) ECU
50) SMU
54) ULL
55) NT
56) Miami (OH)
57) UH
58) UC
60) Temple
61) UCF
65) WMU
69) CMU
71) USF
72) Toledo
74) Memphis

In Rivals, the AAC has the top 4 'non-P5' class rankings so far & Temple is ahead of 17 'P5' programs while ECU & SMU are ahead of 16 respectively.

45) Temple
48) ECU
49) SMU
52) UC
54) Miami (OH)
55) NT
61) UCF
63) UH
65) CMU
67) WMU
70) USF
71) Memphis

I know this recruiting cycle is far from over and it is just one year but this seems to be par for the course over the last few seasons. The AAC is clearly a 'tweener' conference from a recruiting perspective but can it be accurately stated that the AAC is actually closer to the 'P5' than the 'G4' yet?

I’m glad ECU is #1.
Louisiana Lafeyette is 20 spots higher than Memphis? Is this due to less recruits for Memphis?

(08-08-2018 03:39 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  It's still early but once again, the AAC seems to be clearly separating itself from its 'peers' in terms of the ability to recruit.

In 247, the AAC represents 6 of the top 9 outside of the 'P5' & ECU & SMU are ahead of 13 'P5' programs. & remember we're talking about one conference vs 4 here & the AAC nonetheless represents 2/3 of the top 9.

49) ECU
50) SMU
54) ULL
55) NT
56) Miami (OH)
57) UH
58) UC
60) Temple
61) UCF
65) WMU
69) CMU
71) USF
72) Toledo
74) Memphis

In Rivals, the AAC has the top 4 'non-P5' class rankings so far & Temple is ahead of 17 'P5' programs while ECU & SMU are ahead of 16 respectively.

45) Temple
48) ECU
49) SMU
52) UC
54) Miami (OH)
55) NT
61) UCF
63) UH
65) CMU
67) WMU
70) USF
71) Memphis

I know this recruiting cycle is far from over and it is just one year but this seems to be par for the course over the last few seasons. The AAC is clearly a 'tweener' conference from a recruiting perspective but can it be accurately stated that the AAC is actually closer to the 'P5' than the 'G4' yet?

I’m glad ECU is #1.
Louisiana Lafeyette is 20 spots higher than Memphis? Is this due to less recruits for Memphis?

(08-08-2018 04:26 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  Once you get so far down the list of football prospects I’m not sure how valuable recruiting ratings are. No doubt guys at the top are the biggest, baddest dudes, but Anthony Miller (arguably our best receiver of all time) was a walk on.

If you re-ranked these guys after their college careers, what would they be? IMO Miller would go from unranked to a 4 Star guy. Pretty big swing.

well when using anthony miller as an example he also becomes an indictment on not just recruiting ratings/services, but also college coaches. memphis didn't get him because they evaluated the heck out of some hidden gem ... he walked on. he's an outlier.

its too early to have recruit rankings mean anything...

at this point last year people were talking about the collapse of bama as a recruiting power (spoilers: they cleaned house right before signing day)

We are much closer to our own g5, its not even close
Any FBS school can get 20+ recruits early and look like their doing great but have an average rating per player that is not so good at say .8165
Recruiting in the .9000 and up is where the real elite are
For the g5 if we can get about 5 or 6 schools averaging .8500 or even .8700 every year that’s when you know that a real shift in recruiting trends have shifted
A shift in Recruiting trends do happen but not very often, I think the success the AAC is having as a new and now apparently stabllized conference ( new tv money, hoping for($15m) will help and to continue to win the NY6 bowl ( this is major important) for perception
Recruiting is the bedrock to build positive national perception and positive perception leads to attracting better recruits, it’s a catch 22
As of today the entire g5 has I think only one mybe two 4* committed for the 2019 class, -one for houston
When a g5 school gets four or five 4* recruits on yearly average then thats when we can expect that school to get an invite (mybe) in the next realignment to a A5 conference but in the mean time let’s all stick together

(08-08-2018 06:52 PM)Meatwad Wrote:  

(08-08-2018 04:26 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  Once you get so far down the list of football prospects I’m not sure how valuable recruiting ratings are. No doubt guys at the top are the biggest, baddest dudes, but Anthony Miller (arguably our best receiver of all time) was a walk on.

If you re-ranked these guys after their college careers, what would they be? IMO Miller would go from unranked to a 4 Star guy. Pretty big swing.

well when using anthony miller as an example he also becomes an indictment on not just recruiting ratings/services, but also college coaches. memphis didn't get him because they evaluated the heck out of some hidden gem ... he walked on. he's an outlier.

Justin Hardy was also a walk-on. To be honest though, it's a lot of guys to grade and they do the best they can. I'm not sure I could do a better job. I really only take issue when they back into grades based on the schools that look at/sign the players. That's cheating, and is lazy grading.

(08-08-2018 06:56 PM)pesik Wrote:  its too early to have recruit rankings mean anything...

at this point last year people were talking about the collapse of bama as a recruiting power (spoilers: they cleaned house right before signing day)

There is an early signing period now. So not really.

(08-08-2018 06:33 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(08-08-2018 03:39 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  It's still early but once again, the AAC seems to be clearly separating itself from its 'peers' in terms of the ability to recruit.

In 247, the AAC represents 6 of the top 9 outside of the 'P5' & ECU & SMU are ahead of 13 'P5' programs. & remember we're talking about one conference vs 4 here & the AAC nonetheless represents 2/3 of the top 9.

49) ECU
50) SMU
54) ULL
55) NT
56) Miami (OH)
57) UH
58) UC
60) Temple
61) UCF
65) WMU
69) CMU
71) USF
72) Toledo
74) Memphis

In Rivals, the AAC has the top 4 'non-P5' class rankings so far & Temple is ahead of 17 'P5' programs while ECU & SMU are ahead of 16 respectively.

45) Temple
48) ECU
49) SMU
52) UC
54) Miami (OH)
55) NT
61) UCF
63) UH
65) CMU
67) WMU
70) USF
71) Memphis

I know this recruiting cycle is far from over and it is just one year but this seems to be par for the course over the last few seasons. The AAC is clearly a 'tweener' conference from a recruiting perspective but can it be accurately stated that the AAC is actually closer to the 'P5' than the 'G4' yet?

I’m glad ECU is #1.
Louisiana Lafeyette is 20 spots higher than Memphis? Is this due to less recruits for Memphis?

ULL has 16 commitments and we have 11. We’ve had a couple 4 Star guys decommit and commit to SEC schools. That would impact our ranking. Lastly, Norvell is a good recruiter regardless of what the rankings say. He’s recruited several running QBs with no intention of using them as QBs. Many times those guys are the fastest, most athletic player on the field. We have at least one of those guys in our 2019 class (that isn’t ranked).

For 2018, Brady White transferred in. He doesn’t count towards our 2018 ranking, but he’s a new player on the field for Memphis. Not only was he a four star recruit, but he already has 2 years of D1 experience under his belt.

Stipends will further separate the AAC from G4 conferences in recruiting. This is particularly true if the AAC gets paid well. Many G4 schools will not pay any thing close to full cost of attendance. If an AAC school provides $6,000 and a G4 school provides $3,000 it will affect many decisions.

(08-08-2018 06:56 PM)pesik Wrote:  its too early to have recruit rankings mean anything...

at this point last year people were talking about the collapse of bama as a recruiting power (spoilers: they cleaned house right before signing day)

Yes, its early. But, Alabama finished 5th in recruiting last year. From 2011 to 2017, they were 1st.

Clearly P6.