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It will be very interesting to see how Jalen Adams progresses this year. He is extremely talented but seems in the past to have had ZERO guidance. In fact, I think you could say that about all of UCONN's talented but under-performing players.
if Hurley brings out the best in these guys it will be worth 2 or three times Ollie's buyout.
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(08-16-2018 12:16 PM)SadderBudweiser Wrote:  It will be very interesting to see how Jalen Adams progresses this year. He is extremely talented but seems in the past to have had ZERO guidance. In fact, I think you could say that about all of UCONN's talented but under-performing players.
if Hurley brings out the best in these guys it will be worth 2 or three times Ollie's buyout.

Yup, I think we'll see a significant improvement. Hurley's been making Adams and company run suicides at Hartford parking garages.

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if jalan adams was soo good he'd be in the nba by now. jarron cumberland's gonna run point and all over your asses. especially the vaunted sentries of the cougar perimeter. the freight train will barrel at will
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(08-16-2018 12:45 PM)Lush Wrote:  if jalan adams was soo good he'd be in the nba by now. jarron cumberland's gonna run point and all over your asses. especially the vaunted sentries of the cougar perimeter. the freight train will barrel at will

he declared 2 seasons ago, and was given a mid-late second round grade..he could have been in the nba if he wanted... and be going into his 3rd season now

he didnt even test the waters this year..from his video he made earlier in the year announcing he wouldnt even the waters..he said he really wants to make an impact at uconn and stand among the great uconn guards
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(08-16-2018 12:55 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 12:45 PM)Lush Wrote:  if jalan adams was soo good he'd be in the nba by now. jarron cumberland's gonna run point and all over your asses. especially the vaunted sentries of the cougar perimeter. the freight train will barrel at will

he declared 2 seasons ago, and was given a mid-late second round grade..he could have been in the nba if he wanted... and be going into his 3rd season now

he didnt even test the waters this year..from his video he made earlier in the year announcing he wouldnt even the waters..he said he really wants to make an impact at uconn and stand among the great uconn guards

ahh. i thought he was a senior. seems to be a uconn trend nowadays. highly rated point guards coming in and staying four years. nothing wrong with that. first team players. my favorite uconn point is khalid el amin
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(08-16-2018 12:55 PM)pesik Wrote:  he declared 2 seasons ago, and was given a mid-late second round grade..he could have been in the nba if he wanted... and be going into his 3rd season now

He probably won't be drafted now. You should always go early if you have any interest because draft picks are always penalized for being older. Teams like to invest in younger player with more upside so you have to make that up, and most don't. Being more of a mystery and having less on tape to pick apart is a good thing for the vast majority.

Besides that college basketball is very different micromanaged by coaches type of game that doesn't really prepare you for the NBA as well like actually being in the NBA or Gleague. Finite earning years as well wasting away especially if you are actually good enough to have an NBA career getting to that 2nd contract earlier has far more value than improving a few draft picks even if you could.

(08-16-2018 01:04 PM)Lush Wrote:  ahh. i thought he was a senior. seems to be a uconn trend nowadays. highly rated point guards coming in and staying four years. nothing wrong with that. first team players.

It likely cost him money and perhaps an NBA career at all. He's not showing up on the mocks I've seen. Far less likely the older you are teams will really give you chances.
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(08-16-2018 09:01 AM)DowdyPirate2 Wrote:  Justin Whatley should be number one

I agree if it's #1 of the bottom 10 of the AAC.

I'd love to talk about ECU's talent but I don't know if we have even a top 30 player this season.
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I think Dejon Jarreau finishes top 5 on this list by season’s end. A lot of talent on this Houston roster. Could have 4-5 top 20 players by the time it is all said and done this year.
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(08-16-2018 03:08 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  I think Dejon Jarreau finishes top 5 on this list by season’s end. A lot of talent on this Houston roster. Could have 4-5 top 20 players by the time it is all said and done this year.

His PER in his one season at UMASS was 15. Unless he really, really improved his 3 point shooting in his one season off, he won't make top 10.
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(08-16-2018 03:58 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 03:08 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  I think Dejon Jarreau finishes top 5 on this list by season’s end. A lot of talent on this Houston roster. Could have 4-5 top 20 players by the time it is all said and done this year.

His PER in his one season at UMASS was 15. Unless he really, really improved his 3 point shooting in his one season off, he won't make top 10.

Ya, Top 5 isn't happening this year. Maybe Top 15. He could very well be Top 10 in the 2019-2020 season tho.
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(08-16-2018 04:05 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 03:58 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 03:08 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  I think Dejon Jarreau finishes top 5 on this list by season’s end. A lot of talent on this Houston roster. Could have 4-5 top 20 players by the time it is all said and done this year.

His PER in his one season at UMASS was 15. Unless he really, really improved his 3 point shooting in his one season off, he won't make top 10.

Ya, Top 5 isn't happening this year. Maybe Top 15. He could very well be Top 10 in the 2019-2020 season tho.

That’s fair. Between Davis, Jarreau, Brooks, and White, we have a ton of guys that can finish top 15-20. Really excited to watch Nate Hinton as well this year.
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(08-16-2018 04:15 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 04:05 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 03:58 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 03:08 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  I think Dejon Jarreau finishes top 5 on this list by season’s end. A lot of talent on this Houston roster. Could have 4-5 top 20 players by the time it is all said and done this year.

His PER in his one season at UMASS was 15. Unless he really, really improved his 3 point shooting in his one season off, he won't make top 10.

Ya, Top 5 isn't happening this year. Maybe Top 15. He could very well be Top 10 in the 2019-2020 season tho.

That’s fair. Between Davis, Jarreau, Brooks, and White, we have a ton of guys that can finish top 15-20. Really excited to watch Nate Hinton as well this year.

Agreed. It's hard to say how new guys will adjust and perform. That's generally why most peoples' Top 10 lists don't include freshmen/transfers.
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(08-16-2018 04:26 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 04:15 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 04:05 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 03:58 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 03:08 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  I think Dejon Jarreau finishes top 5 on this list by season’s end. A lot of talent on this Houston roster. Could have 4-5 top 20 players by the time it is all said and done this year.

His PER in his one season at UMASS was 15. Unless he really, really improved his 3 point shooting in his one season off, he won't make top 10.

Ya, Top 5 isn't happening this year. Maybe Top 15. He could very well be Top 10 in the 2019-2020 season tho.


That’s fair. Between Davis, Jarreau, Brooks, and White, we have a ton of guys that can finish top 15-20. Really excited to watch Nate Hinton as well this year.

Agreed. It's hard to say how new guys will adjust and perform. That's generally why most peoples' Top 10 lists don't include freshmen/transfers.

Very true. I’d actually take a bet that someone else besides McDuffie from WSU will end up Top 15 in the conference (ie one of the post-season teams), but I couldn’t give you any idea which one it will be.
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(08-16-2018 04:05 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 03:58 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 03:08 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  I think Dejon Jarreau finishes top 5 on this list by season’s end. A lot of talent on this Houston roster. Could have 4-5 top 20 players by the time it is all said and done this year.

His PER in his one season at UMASS was 15. Unless he really, really improved his 3 point shooting in his one season off, he won't make top 10.

Ya, Top 5 isn't happening this year. Maybe Top 15. He could very well be Top 10 in the 2019-2020 season tho.

his 3pt shooting is honestly the only bad part of his game ..his turnover numbers werent great, but for a ball dominant true freshmen those numbers werent that bad (trae youngs was drastically worse)

the rest of his game is extremely good. assists (elite level) very good shot blocker for a point guard, amazing finisher at the rim. incorporating how tall he is his handles are top level... with his rebounding & steals above average.
(his defensive numbers are decent and umass didn't put that much effort into D, he relied on just being extremely long... which wont be the case with sampson, where defense is emphasized, his defensive numbers could vastly improve)

i wouldnt put him on any top 10 lists in the preseason, but if i was making one for how i think it will play out in the season, i think he'll easily be top 10, and thats with just marginal improvements on his shot. top 3 with vast improvements to his shot..

ill point out that dejon was actually a good shooter in high school (he was 40% in aau) which is why he shot the ball so much at umass..player who think they are a bad shooter dont take that many shots.
also melvin frazier and jacob evans were 4 stars who played in the same Louisiana aau circuit at the same time, dejon was considered the best of the bunch by a margin during those years (and we'd have had both top 10 last year).
there is actually a video of dejon and melvin battling in high school, where dejon's team won by 10 but both of them accounting for 70% of their teams points
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(08-16-2018 05:02 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 04:05 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 03:58 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 03:08 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  I think Dejon Jarreau finishes top 5 on this list by season’s end. A lot of talent on this Houston roster. Could have 4-5 top 20 players by the time it is all said and done this year.

His PER in his one season at UMASS was 15. Unless he really, really improved his 3 point shooting in his one season off, he won't make top 10.

Ya, Top 5 isn't happening this year. Maybe Top 15. He could very well be Top 10 in the 2019-2020 season tho.

his 3pt shooting is honestly the only bad part of his game ..his turnover numbers werent great, but for a ball dominant true freshmen those numbers werent that bad (trae youngs was drastically worse)

the rest of his game is extremely good. assists (elite level) very good shot blocker for a point guard, amazing finisher at the rim. incorporating how tall he is size his handles are top level... with his rebounding & steals above average.
(his defensive numbers are decent and umass rarely put that much effort into D, he relied on just being extremely long... which wont be the case with sampson, where defense is emphasized, his defensive numbers could vastly improve)

i wouldnt put him on any top 10 lists in the preseason, but if i was making one for how i think it will play out in the season, i think he'll easily be top 10, and thats with just marginal improvements on his shot. top 3 with vast improvements to his shot..

ill point out that dejon was actually a good shooter in high school (he was 40% in aau) which is why he shot the ball so much at umass..player who think they are a bad shooter dont take that many shots.
also melvin frazier and jacob evans were 4 stars who played in the same Louisiana aau circuit, dejon was considered the best of the bunch by a margin during those years (and we'd have had both top 10 last year).
there is actually a video of dejon and melvin battling in high school, where dejon's team won by 10 but both of them accounting for 70% of their teams points

Maybe it was just that A-10 defenders played a lot more defense than some Lousiana kids that let each other score 70% of their team's points.
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(08-16-2018 05:09 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Maybe it was just that A-10 defenders played a lot more defense than some Lousiana kids that let each other score 70% of their team's points.

lucky for us, he is playing in the aac 04-cheers
where he is 1-0, and literally hit the game winning 3 with time running out after a big game...
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(08-16-2018 05:35 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 05:09 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Maybe it was just that A-10 defenders played a lot more defense than some Lousiana kids that let each other score 70% of their team's points.

lucky for us, he is playing in the aac 04-cheers
where he is 1-0, and literally hit the game winning 3 with time running out after a big game...

na we beat that jarreau umass team. despite the big 4 point contribution from gresham and jarreau
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(08-16-2018 05:45 PM)Doglando Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 05:35 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 05:09 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Maybe it was just that A-10 defenders played a lot more defense than some Lousiana kids that let each other score 70% of their team's points.

lucky for us, he is playing in the aac 04-cheers
where he is 1-0, and literally hit the game winning 3 with time running out after a big game...

na we beat that jarreau umass team. despite the big 4 point contribution from gresham and jarreau

I was gonna say... look at that stat again. Jarreau missed all his 3's in that game.

He did beat a mediocre Temple squad though.
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(08-16-2018 05:45 PM)Doglando Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 05:35 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(08-16-2018 05:09 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Maybe it was just that A-10 defenders played a lot more defense than some Lousiana kids that let each other score 70% of their team's points.

lucky for us, he is playing in the aac 04-cheers
where he is 1-0, and literally hit the game winning 3 with time running out after a big game...

na we beat that jarreau umass team. despite the big 4 point contribution from gresham and jarreau

forgot they played ucf...was talking about the temple game

for what its worth, dejon only played 10 mins vs ucf because was injured a few games prior (foot) and that was his first game back (easing him in)

and brison was ruled ineligible for his first season at umass before it was overturned mid-season..ucf was his 1st ever college game with real minutes (also only played 10)
but ill note, brison 2 points was his best highlight of the season, he dunked on 2 ucf players
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