interesting what Jon Rothstein just tweeted a few minutes ago...

20-game conference slates already taking a toll on scheduling for future seasons. WARNING: If you are not in a Top-Seven league (Power-5, Big East, or American), you are an ENDANGERED SPECIES.

I mean, it's really only the A-10 out of the remaining conferences that's consistently getting at-large bids anymore anyway (and they're getting them at the same clip as the AAC, so you could even lump them to Rothstein's statement). By-product of conferences ballooning in size - the NCAA needs to come up with a way to justify sending 18- and 19-win teams from big-money conferences over teams with win totals approaching 30 to keep the big names from threatening to split, so you're seeing increasingly convoluted formulas that tilt the field in favor of six or so conferences (basically the P5 plus Big East, basketball's P6). I'd prefer spreading the at-larges around a little more because the random runs by small schools make everything more fun, but economic leverage is what it is.

The group of teams in the AAC has gotten 3 in pretty consistently recently- yes some years it wsa 2 AAC teams plus then Wichita out of hte MVC. They've done that w/o much help at all from UConn or Memphis. The A10 has gotten EVERY break possible with bid thieves and teams getting in as last team in(St Bonaventure- a team that this year would not make it with the new NET).

like Rothstein said-
Concerned about the A 10. League would have had only two of 14 teams in last season if Davidson didn't win things in D.C. And one of those teams (St. Bonaventure) was in the First Four.

about the MWC-
The Mountain West doesn't get more than one team in the NCAA Tournament last March if Nevada wins the league tournament in Las Vegas. Was a one bid league for a few years prior.

and the AAC-
The American nearly had two teams in the Sweet 16 last March and has two storied programs on the rise in Memphis and UConn. Long term prognosis for the league is very good.

Also- what Rothstein was talking about was more schedules. The AAC teams DO get better OOC matchups than the A10- by a country mile. Also they have the ability to get them as home and homes.

So far, it's only the B1G(this year) and ACC(next year) that have announced plans to go to 20. Pac-12 and AAC could do 20, the Big XII and Big East probably need to add another member to do it, but the SEC seems to prefer 18 games(perhaps Kentucky is influencing things there).

(08-31-2018 03:03 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Also- what Rothstein was talking about was more schedules. The AAC teams DO get better OOC matchups than the A10- by a country mile. Also they have the ability to get them as home and homes.

What I was talking about was more schedules too. The NCAA's protecting the biggest-name conferences similar to, albeit in a less severe fashion, the CFP in order to keep the money (and recruits, [/b]missing the tourney several years in a row is bad for recruiting) flowing to where the money already is.

(08-31-2018 02:53 PM)stever20 Wrote:  The American nearly had two teams in the Sweet 16 last March

You're praising two AAC teams for "nearly" making the sweet 16, but you're not giving Nevada any credit at all for *actually* making the sweet 16.

(08-31-2018 04:03 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 02:53 PM)stever20 Wrote:  The American nearly had two teams in the Sweet 16 last March

You're praising two AAC teams for "nearly" making the sweet 16, but you're not giving Nevada any credit at all for *actually* making the sweet 16.

it wasn't me. Jon Rothstein said it.

(08-31-2018 04:25 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 04:03 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 02:53 PM)stever20 Wrote:  The American nearly had two teams in the Sweet 16 last March

You're praising two AAC teams for "nearly" making the sweet 16, but you're not giving Nevada any credit at all for *actually* making the sweet 16.

it wasn't me. Jon Rothstein said it.

It was you. I quoted your post #3 in this thread.

The AAC, MWC and A10 all are at a significant disadvantage because they do not have scheduling agreements with any power conferences. I don't think the top teams in any conference can afford to hurt their RPI (or NET) and risk playing bottom teams an additional time.

The Big East is in prime position moving forward due to their scheduling alliances with the B1G and Big 12. Those extra games essentially bump up their total number of power conference games to 20 games per year.

(08-31-2018 01:59 PM)stever20 Wrote:  interesting what Jon Rothstein just tweeted a few minutes ago...

20-game conference slates already taking a toll on scheduling for future seasons. WARNING: If you are not in a Top-Seven league (Power-5, Big East, or American), you are an ENDANGERED SPECIES.

One of these conferences is not like the others....

The AAC gets good home and homes from power conference teams. Definitely from a scheduling perspective much stronger than the A10/MWC/anyone else.....

I mean look at the A10. No one is beating down the door to play at St Bonaventure for instance.

(08-31-2018 07:47 PM)stever20 Wrote:  The AAC gets good home and homes from power conference teams. Definitely from a scheduling perspective much stronger than the A10/MWC/anyone else.....

I mean look at the A10. No one is beating down the door to play at St Bonaventure for instance.

Correction. The top 2/3 of the AAC gets good home and homes, particularly Cincy, UConn, Wichita, and Memphis. Temple probably could be at that level but they've got the Big 5 round-robin every year.

But ECU, USF, and UCF do not. And Tulsa/Tulane don't have one every year.

(08-31-2018 02:42 PM)Bogg Wrote:  I mean, it's really only the A-10 out of the remaining conferences that's consistently getting at-large bids anymore anyway (and they're getting them at the same clip as the AAC, so you could even lump them to Rothstein's statement). By-product of conferences ballooning in size - the NCAA needs to come up with a way to justify sending 18- and 19-win teams from big-money conferences over teams with win totals approaching 30 to keep the big names from threatening to split, so you're seeing increasingly convoluted formulas that tilt the field in favor of six or so conferences (basically the P5 plus Big East, basketball's P6). I'd prefer spreading the at-larges around a little more because the random runs by small schools make everything more fun, but economic leverage is what it is.

Pretty said trolling. I think your attempt to derail this thread is pathetic.

(08-31-2018 06:46 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 01:59 PM)stever20 Wrote:  interesting what Jon Rothstein just tweeted a few minutes ago...

20-game conference slates already taking a toll on scheduling for future seasons. WARNING: If you are not in a Top-Seven league (Power-5, Big East, or American), you are an ENDANGERED SPECIES.

One of these conferences is not like the others....

You're right. One of those conferences gets lousy ratings even when they're at their peak while one of those other conferences pulls in better ratings even after being down the past few seasons.

(09-01-2018 12:27 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 07:47 PM)stever20 Wrote:  The AAC gets good home and homes from power conference teams. Definitely from a scheduling perspective much stronger than the A10/MWC/anyone else.....

I mean look at the A10. No one is beating down the door to play at St Bonaventure for instance.

Correction. The top 2/3 of the AAC gets good home and homes, particularly Cincy, UConn, Wichita, and Memphis. Temple probably could be at that level but they've got the Big 5 round-robin every year.

But ECU, USF, and UCF do not. And Tulsa/Tulane don't have one every year.

Maybe ECU and USF. But UCF? They have Alabama and Missouri this year in home and homes. That's pretty good.

Tulsa has Oklahoma St, Kansas St, and Utah this year.
Tulane has FSU this year in a home and home.

(09-01-2018 07:46 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 06:46 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 01:59 PM)stever20 Wrote:  interesting what Jon Rothstein just tweeted a few minutes ago...

20-game conference slates already taking a toll on scheduling for future seasons. WARNING: If you are not in a Top-Seven league (Power-5, Big East, or American), you are an ENDANGERED SPECIES.

One of these conferences is not like the others....

You're right. One of those conferences gets lousy ratings even when they're at their peak while one of those other conferences pulls in better ratings even after being down the past few seasons.

That conference with lousy ratings and no FBS programs just had one of their own beat Temple in their home stadium. We are all good.

(09-01-2018 02:32 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(09-01-2018 07:46 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 06:46 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 01:59 PM)stever20 Wrote:  interesting what Jon Rothstein just tweeted a few minutes ago...

20-game conference slates already taking a toll on scheduling for future seasons. WARNING: If you are not in a Top-Seven league (Power-5, Big East, or American), you are an ENDANGERED SPECIES.

One of these conferences is not like the others....

You're right. One of those conferences gets lousy ratings even when they're at their peak while one of those other conferences pulls in better ratings even after being down the past few seasons.

That conference with lousy ratings and no FBS programs just had one of their own beat Temple in their home stadium. We are all good.

Congrats to Nova.

(09-01-2018 07:38 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 02:42 PM)Bogg Wrote:  I mean, it's really only the A-10 out of the remaining conferences that's consistently getting at-large bids anymore anyway (and they're getting them at the same clip as the AAC, so you could even lump them to Rothstein's statement). By-product of conferences ballooning in size - the NCAA needs to come up with a way to justify sending 18- and 19-win teams from big-money conferences over teams with win totals approaching 30 to keep the big names from threatening to split, so you're seeing increasingly convoluted formulas that tilt the field in favor of six or so conferences (basically the P5 plus Big East, basketball's P6). I'd prefer spreading the at-larges around a little more because the random runs by small schools make everything more fun, but economic leverage is what it is.

Pretty said trolling. I think your attempt to derail this thread is pathetic.

What, you don't think the increased reliance on schedule-based analytics is intended to keep the at-larges going to the "right" conferences? It's a way to justify 18-win teams from big-money conferences over mid-majors with gaudy win totals under the same "they didn't play anyone" argument the CFP uses to keep it a P5-only championship.