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RE: This was a pretty terrible opening weekend for a conference going into tv negotiation
(09-02-2018 10:35 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 08:52 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 08:48 PM)TheOrigamiJimmyChin Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 08:40 PM)st932253 Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 08:38 PM)justin_sane15 Wrote:  Title. While I expect the top half of the conference to take care of business, we really need teams like Temple, ECU and Navy to have a solid year. Matchups aren't looking too good next week either.

To be fair, there was absolutely no way anyone could have seen these additions being bad moves for the league...

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(09-02-2018 09:05 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  Looks like Memphis, UCF, Cincy, and Houston will have to carry the load as usual. Shame on ECU and Temple. Uconn is crap too.

Um I think you are forgetting someone...
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RE: This was a pretty terrible opening weekend for a conference going into tv negotiation
One week of football does not effect the TV contract positively or negatively. As I have said for years on this board, it is all cyclical. I am surprised people are surprised here. After years of heavy turnover at the coaching position, the AAC was bound to take a step or two back.
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RE: This was a pretty terrible opening weekend for a conference going into tv negotiation
(09-03-2018 08:09 AM)Fanhood Part Deaux Wrote:  One week of football does not effect the TV contract positively or negatively. As I have said for years on this board, it is all cyclical. I am surprised people are surprised here. After years of heavy turnover at the coaching position, the AAC was bound to take a step or two back.

Naw once again your wishful hope that your sorryazz mwc will match the AAC has you sounding like the troll you are. Our top teams are every bit as good apparently better than last year. If you think just because a couple of our also-ran teams crap the bed we are " cycling down because of coaching turnover " proves that you should've been left banned. Unfortunately close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades, so although the fightin' fanhoods played a good game they lost. You all still couldn't get a signature win outside of Navy (which I guess is the reason for your troll attempt) and for that to be considered a quality win for the mwc proves that the American has significantly more stature over you guys. See ya next week with more subtle trolling after we show ya'll how to close the deal against p6 competition. 05-ban05-ban
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RE: This was a pretty terrible opening weekend for a conference going into tv negotiation
(09-03-2018 07:48 AM)Ocalabull Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 09:05 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  Looks like Memphis, UCF, Cincy, and Houston will have to carry the load as usual. Shame on ECU and Temple. Uconn is crap too.

Um I think you are forgetting someone...

One man's thoughts. Don't let them bother. We have USF and UCF battling to be the best teams in Florida. Florida Gators who? That's P6 brother. Locking up the state of Florida nice and tightly.

The Battle on I-? between UCF and USF is the marketing campaign we need to carry through the next AAC media deal.

I love the USF "carry the flag" marketing logo I've seen posted. It's beautiful pictographically, as well as symbolically.
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RE: This was a pretty terrible opening weekend for a conference going into tv negotiation
(09-03-2018 08:39 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(09-03-2018 08:09 AM)Fanhood Part Deaux Wrote:  One week of football does not effect the TV contract positively or negatively. As I have said for years on this board, it is all cyclical. I am surprised people are surprised here. After years of heavy turnover at the coaching position, the AAC was bound to take a step or two back.

Naw once again your wishful hope that your sorryazz mwc will match the AAC has you sounding like the troll you are. Our top teams are every bit as good apparently better than last year. If you think just because a couple of our also-ran teams crap the bed we are " cycling down because of coaching turnover " proves that you should've been left banned. Unfortunately close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades, so although the fightin' fanhoods played a good game they lost. You all still couldn't get a signature win outside of Navy (which I guess is the reason for your troll attempt) and for that to be considered a quality win for the mwc proves that the American has significantly more stature over you guys. See ya next week with more subtle trolling after we show ya'll how to close the deal against p6 competition. 05-ban05-ban

I agree with the Bold here. Your top teams look good. But that is also the case with a few other G5 conferences like the MWC, and Sun Belt. What has set the AAC apart the last few years was the top to bottom strength. Not really so this year. As I said, it is cyclical.

Really not trying to troll you here. I do not see how what I said is offensive, or controversial.
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(09-02-2018 09:05 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  Looks like Memphis, UCF, Cincy, and Houston will have to carry the load as usual. Shame on ECU and Temple. Uconn is crap too.

Temple sucked on Saturday. That being said how many conference championships does Memphis have? And how many NCAA appearances from the American?
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RE: This was a pretty terrible opening weekend for a conference going into tv negotiation
(09-03-2018 08:39 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(09-03-2018 08:09 AM)Fanhood Part Deaux Wrote:  One week of football does not effect the TV contract positively or negatively. As I have said for years on this board, it is all cyclical. I am surprised people are surprised here. After years of heavy turnover at the coaching position, the AAC was bound to take a step or two back.

Naw once again your wishful hope that your sorryazz mwc will match the AAC has you sounding like the troll you are. Our top teams are every bit as good apparently better than last year. If you think just because a couple of our also-ran teams crap the bed we are " cycling down because of coaching turnover " proves that you should've been left banned. Unfortunately close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades, so although the fightin' fanhoods played a good game they lost. You all still couldn't get a signature win outside of Navy (which I guess is the reason for your troll attempt) and for that to be considered a quality win for the mwc proves that the American has significantly more stature over you guys. See ya next week with more subtle trolling after we show ya'll how to close the deal against p6 competition. 05-ban05-ban

Interesting, which games will you have victories over P5 conferences next week? I think USF over Ga Tech is possible, maybe even a toss-up, but I would not put money on it straight up. I also think Houston could win, but I do not know what to think about Houston or Arizona right now. Again, a toss-up. I would not put money on either.

I think can both agree that SMU is going to get beaten badly.
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RE: This was a pretty terrible opening weekend for a conference going into tv negotiation
(09-03-2018 09:15 AM)Fanhood Part Deaux Wrote:  
(09-03-2018 08:39 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(09-03-2018 08:09 AM)Fanhood Part Deaux Wrote:  One week of football does not effect the TV contract positively or negatively. As I have said for years on this board, it is all cyclical. I am surprised people are surprised here. After years of heavy turnover at the coaching position, the AAC was bound to take a step or two back.

Naw once again your wishful hope that your sorryazz mwc will match the AAC has you sounding like the troll you are. Our top teams are every bit as good apparently better than last year. If you think just because a couple of our also-ran teams crap the bed we are " cycling down because of coaching turnover " proves that you should've been left banned. Unfortunately close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades, so although the fightin' fanhoods played a good game they lost. You all still couldn't get a signature win outside of Navy (which I guess is the reason for your troll attempt) and for that to be considered a quality win for the mwc proves that the American has significantly more stature over you guys. See ya next week with more subtle trolling after we show ya'll how to close the deal against p6 competition. 05-ban05-ban

Interesting, which games will you have victories over P5 conferences next week? I think USF over Ga Tech is possible, maybe even a toss-up, but I would not put money on it straight up. I also think Houston could win, but I do not know what to think about Houston or Arizona right now. Again, a toss-up. I would not put money on either.

I think can both agree that SMU is going to get beaten badly.


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(09-03-2018 08:52 AM)vick mike Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 09:05 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  Looks like Memphis, UCF, Cincy, and Houston will have to carry the load as usual. Shame on ECU and Temple. Uconn is crap too.

Temple sucked on Saturday. That being said how many conference championships does Memphis have? And how many NCAA appearances from the American?

Are you asking about AAC championships specifically, or Conference Championships in our history?
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(09-03-2018 08:43 AM)Fanhood Part Deaux Wrote:  
(09-03-2018 08:39 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(09-03-2018 08:09 AM)Fanhood Part Deaux Wrote:  One week of football does not effect the TV contract positively or negatively. As I have said for years on this board, it is all cyclical. I am surprised people are surprised here. After years of heavy turnover at the coaching position, the AAC was bound to take a step or two back.

Naw once again your wishful hope that your sorryazz mwc will match the AAC has you sounding like the troll you are. Our top teams are every bit as good apparently better than last year. If you think just because a couple of our also-ran teams crap the bed we are " cycling down because of coaching turnover " proves that you should've been left banned. Unfortunately close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades, so although the fightin' fanhoods played a good game they lost. You all still couldn't get a signature win outside of Navy (which I guess is the reason for your troll attempt) and for that to be considered a quality win for the mwc proves that the American has significantly more stature over you guys. See ya next week with more subtle trolling after we show ya'll how to close the deal against p6 competition. 05-ban05-ban

I agree with the Bold here. Your top teams look good. But that is also the case with a few other G5 conferences like the MWC, and Sun Belt. What has set the AAC apart the last few years was the top to bottom strength. Not really so this year. As I said, it is cyclical.

Really not trying to troll you here. I do not see how what I said is offensive, or controversial.

top to bottom the aac will still be far better than the other g5...

im not even ready to count temple or navy as bad yet...

a comment applewhite made is that in his career anyone who has had a full 4 quarters of game play vs anyone who has had zero has an immense advantage...your biggest improvement at any point in a season is after game 1

almost every team that won on week 0, all had strong 1st halfs in their week 1 game...
rice, wyoming & hawaii..... hawaii got up 28-0, navy wasnt built to catch up but they still made it a game after they settled down..this game is different had it been played in week 4 or 5

temple and Tulane struggled on offense but they returned a ton from their offense last year, and their offenses last year were actually decent

ecu and smu are the only 2 teams i accept are bad at this point in time
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(09-02-2018 09:05 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  Looks like Memphis, UCF, Cincy, and Houston will have to carry the load as usual. Shame on ECU and Temple. Uconn is crap too.

You were UCONN/ECU Football just 5 years ago. LOL.

Five years ago, UCF was UCONN/ECU?!?!?!?05-nono
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(09-02-2018 09:05 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  Looks like Memphis, UCF, Cincy, and Houston will have to carry the load as usual. Shame on ECU and Temple. Uconn is crap too.

You were UCONN/ECU Football just 5 years ago. LOL.

Incorrect! We were worse.
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(09-03-2018 09:57 AM)Square Knight Wrote:  
(09-03-2018 07:01 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 09:05 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  Looks like Memphis, UCF, Cincy, and Houston will have to carry the load as usual. Shame on ECU and Temple. Uconn is crap too.

You were UCONN/ECU Football just 5 years ago. LOL.

Five years ago, UCF was UCONN/ECU?!?!?!?05-nono

Which poster did I reply to? Which school is he a fan of?
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(09-03-2018 10:16 AM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(09-03-2018 07:01 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 09:05 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  Looks like Memphis, UCF, Cincy, and Houston will have to carry the load as usual. Shame on ECU and Temple. Uconn is crap too.

You were UCONN/ECU Football just 5 years ago. LOL.

Incorrect! We were worse.

No way. We had UT Martin beat before the 3 hour rain delay. I know we were bad. We couldn't even line up without getting a penalty for illegal formation (the first 3 plays of the game!) during the Porter debut. BTW, that was 8 years ago. But I have NEVER.... EVER... seen a Memphis team as ill-prepared as ECU was yesterday. The last series of that game was baaaaaaaaad.
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(09-03-2018 10:26 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(09-03-2018 09:57 AM)Square Knight Wrote:  
(09-03-2018 07:01 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 09:05 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  Looks like Memphis, UCF, Cincy, and Houston will have to carry the load as usual. Shame on ECU and Temple. Uconn is crap too.

You were UCONN/ECU Football just 5 years ago. LOL.

Five years ago, UCF was UCONN/ECU?!?!?!?05-nono

Which poster did I reply to? Which school is he a fan of?

I think what he is saying is, UCF was ALSO bad 5 years ago, so "past performance does not indicate future results." Or something like that.
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(09-03-2018 09:53 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(09-03-2018 08:52 AM)vick mike Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 09:05 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  Looks like Memphis, UCF, Cincy, and Houston will have to carry the load as usual. Shame on ECU and Temple. Uconn is crap too.

Temple sucked on Saturday. That being said how many conference championships does Memphis have? And how many NCAA appearances from the American?

Are you asking about AAC championships specifically, or Conference Championships in our history?

The poster I responded to, a Memphis fan, said Memphis has to carry the load as usual. He was referring to the American. My response was intended to point out that Memphis has done very little carrying of the load in this conference and putting Memphis in the same category as UCF or Houston or even Temple is absurd. Clear enough now?
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(09-03-2018 09:54 AM)pesik Wrote:  a comment applewhite made is that in his career anyone who has had a full 4 quarters of game play vs anyone who has had zero has an immense advantage...your biggest improvement at any point in a season is after game 1

almost every team that won on week 0, all had strong 1st halfs in their week 1 game...
rice, wyoming & hawaii..... hawaii got up 28-0, navy wasnt built to catch up but they still made it a game after they settled down..this game is different had it been played in week 4 or 5

The MWC is extremely wise to take advantage of Week 0. It definitely gives an advantage going into opening weekend.

I'm surprised that they didn't have another game or two on Week 0 game - something like Utah St. v. Air Force, UNLV v. UTEP or Nevada v. Oregon St.
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(09-03-2018 10:35 AM)vick mike Wrote:  
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(09-03-2018 08:52 AM)vick mike Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 09:05 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  Looks like Memphis, UCF, Cincy, and Houston will have to carry the load as usual. Shame on ECU and Temple. Uconn is crap too.

Temple sucked on Saturday. That being said how many conference championships does Memphis have? And how many NCAA appearances from the American?

Are you asking about AAC championships specifically, or Conference Championships in our history?

The poster I responded to, a Memphis fan, said Memphis has to carry the load as usual. He was referring to the American. My response was intended to point out that Memphis has done very little carrying of the load in this conference and putting Memphis in the same category as UCF or Houston or even Temple is absurd. Clear enough now?

Okay, I will answer your question within those parameters.

One. The same number Temple has. The same number Houston has. The same number Cincinnati has.

On the outside chance you were asking about all time, we have 5. That may not sound like a lot... and to be clear, it's not... but keep in mind, for way over 50% of our existence, we were not in a conference. I see that is the case for you as well.

But as far as who is in the same category as whom, let's review:

Since the AAC was formed-

Memphis: 1 championship, overall record of 41-24, and a high AP poll of 15, with appearances in the poll 3 seasons. Finished in the Top25: twice.

Temple: 1 Championship, overall record of 35-31, and high AP poll of 20, with appearances in the poll 2 seasons. Finished in the top25: zero.

So let's not pretend Temple has been the better in the AAC.
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Split championships are the worst....

I’ll be honest It bothers me.. all 3 teams use the split title to boost they’re resume like they are the only one that won it that year.

A lot more aac teams would have more titles if we could split it... UCF brags about their 3 titles to everyone else having one ..like one of them wasn’t split
I’m sorry, it just my opinion, you can have a different one.. but split titles are worth less

If a conference has a winner take all championship for 3 years, and 1 team takes it all those 3 years, then the conference decides to have split titles , and for the next 3 years, 3 other different teams win the title on a split every year ..(meaning 4 teams have 3 titles)..I’m sorry but the team with the solo titles isn’t equal to the splits..their’s is valued more
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