(09-09-2018 09:19 AM)bullet Wrote: (09-08-2018 11:31 AM)quo vadis Wrote: Michigan is a permanent blue blood.
Look at Notre Dame since Lou Holtz left. And they are still the most valuable program in college football. And its been over 20 years. If they had gone 6-6 in 2012 it would still be the same.
It takes way over 20 years. And it takes more than mediocre seasons. Oklahoma had a losing record in the 8 years before Stoops took them to an MNC in 2000. Alabama from 1997-2007 had a worse streak than Michigan. The only bluebloods who have really been downgraded are the Ivies and Minnesota. Maybe Tennessee was a blue blood in the 60s and they got downgraded from king to prince.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/sch...index.html
2017 Ind 10 3 0
2016 Ind 4 8 0
2015 Ind 10 3 0
2014 Ind 8 5 0
2013 Ind 9 4 0
2012 Ind 12 1 0
2011 Ind 8 5 [0
2010 Ind 8 5 0
2009 Ind 6 6 0
2008 Ind 7 6 0
2007 Ind 3 9 0
2006 Ind 10 3 0
2005 Ind 9 3 0
2004 Ind 6 6 0
2003 Ind 5 7 0
2002 Ind 10 3 0
2001 Ind 5 6 0
2000 Ind 9 3 0
1999 Ind 5 7 0
1998 Ind 9 3 0
1997 Ind 7 6 0
ND has double digit wins in three of the last six seasons, including a 12-0 perfect regular season and title game appearance in 2012.
The Irish have two ten win seasons in the last three years.
More recently, ND is 12-3 in its last 15 games (a one point loss to Georgia and road losses to Miami and Stanford).
Since 2011 under Brian Kelly, ND has become much more of a consistent (12, 9, 8, 10, 10 wins) winner (except for that putrid 2016 4-8 season).
That is more of a recent pulse than Michigan, in my opinion. (ND has beaten Michigan the last two games, with the combined score being 55-17).
Also, ND has had nine and ten win seasons every couple of years or so in the past 20 years, which keeps the stadium full, hopes alive, gets ratings and keeps the program in the spotlight.
Where the Irish have failed is to win a title, get into the playoffs and have consistent double digit win seasons, back to back or in a row.