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A5 Conference Comparison (November 25, 2018) ... SEC remains #1
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RE: A5 Conference Comparison (September 23rd, 2018) ... ACC falls to last, SEC #1
(09-24-2018 11:06 AM)Wedge Wrote:  
(09-09-2018 06:48 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  5) How wins are earned:

a) A conference is credited with 1 win for any win against an unranked A5 opponent.

b) A conference gets credit for 1 win against an FCS or G5 opponent if the FCS or G5 opponent is ranked in the "others receiving votes" of both the AP and Coaches polls.

c) A conference earns 1.5 wins for beating any team ranked between 11-25 in the AP or Coaches top 25. This is a bonus for a "quality win".

d) A conference earns 2 wins if the win is against any team ranked in the top 10 in either poll. This is a bonus for a "super" win.

I see two flaws here:

-- Treating all wins over unranked teams the same doesn't make sense. A win over a really bad team that ends up 1-8 or 0-9 in its conference should not be worth anywhere near as much as a win over a good team that is 6-3 in its conference but unranked.

-- A "quality win" or a "super win" should be based on where a team is ranked right now, today, not on where they were ranked before. Basing it only on where a team was ranked at game time in week 1 or 2 means that a team gets credit for beating a team that was mistakenly ranked but turns out to be bad, while a team gets no credit for beating a team that was unranked in week 1 or 2 but in the top 25 later in the year.

Wedge, your points are well taken. The reason I won't adopt your suggestions is basically for practical reasons, it's a trade-off between conceptual accuracy and the time I have to spend on this.

But FWIW, when the dust settles at the end of the year, my rankings tend to be very close to the final Massey Composite which consists of very sophisticated programs that take into account the things you talk about here. We'll see about this year.
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RE: A5 Conference Comparison (September 30th, 2018) ... SEC remains #1
Results updated to reflect 9/29 games.
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RE: A5 Conference Comparison (September 30th, 2018) ... SEC remains #1
i was talking 2050
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RE: A5 Conference Comparison (September 30th, 2018) ... SEC remains #1
Big 12 is done with ooc. Big 10 only has NW-ND left. Think the Pac is nearly done as well.
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RE: A5 Conference Comparison (September 30th, 2018) ... SEC remains #1
(09-30-2018 12:06 PM)bullet Wrote:  Big 12 is done with ooc. Big 10 only has NW-ND left. Think the Pac is nearly done as well.

The PAC still has USC vs Notre Dame, and the SEC and ACC have rivalry games around Thanksgiving, but yes, until the bowls there won't be much action.
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RE: A5 Conference Comparison (September 30th, 2018) ... SEC remains #1
(09-24-2018 10:34 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-23-2018 08:57 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  Buffalo & Conn end up in B-12

In the year 2150?

If man is still alive.
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RE: A5 Conference Comparison (October 7, 2018) ... SEC remains #1
Updated for October 7th.
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RE: A5 Conference Comparison (October 14, 2018) ... SEC remains #1
Updated for October 14th
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RE: A5 Conference Comparison (October 21, 2018) ... SEC remains #1
Updated for 10/20 results.
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RE: A5 Conference Comparison (October 21, 2018) ... SEC remains #1
(09-30-2018 01:33 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(09-24-2018 10:34 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-23-2018 08:57 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  Buffalo & Conn end up in B-12

In the year 2150?

If man is still alive.

Is it the year 2525 when the ACC espn contract ends or 2150?
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RE: A5 Conference Comparison (October 21, 2018) ... SEC remains #1
(10-22-2018 05:35 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(09-30-2018 01:33 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(09-24-2018 10:34 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-23-2018 08:57 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  Buffalo & Conn end up in B-12

In the year 2150?

If man is still alive.

Is it the year 2525 when the ACC espn contract ends or 2150?
2037
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RE: A5 Conference Comparison (October 28, 2018) ... SEC remains #1
Updated for 10/28.
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RE: A5 Conference Comparison (November 4, 2018) ... SEC remains #1
Updated for 11/4
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RE: A5 Conference Comparison (November 18, 2018) ... SEC remains #1
Updated for 11/18 results.
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RE: A5 Conference Comparison (November 25, 2018) ... SEC remains #1
Updated for Rivalry Week results.
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