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Hopson is killing USM.
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Here's my unsolicited take.

Charlotte - when you guys came into the league I said you would be lucky to win 10 conference games in your first five years (taking much flak for that comment). Not really your fault, you were presented with an opportunity and felt like you needed to take it. You should have been in FCS for at least 5 years, probably 10, before moving up. It would have given you the opportunity to build a winning culture, something that just was impossible starting in FBS. It's hard to recruit to a program that has never won, or even been very competitive. For you to get better you are going to have to break the bank on a coach who can recruit based on his accomplishments. Get players that want to play for him, not Charlotte.

ODU - Wilder has proven he can win at FCS and FBS, again, you probably moved up a little early, so the road will be up and down based on the quality of senior classes. You will get over the hump with Wilder, but an upgrade might get you there sooner.

Middle - better look hard at USM and what happened there. A coach that can get you to a bowl every year actually isn't that easy to find. You get good talent, good athletes, I would look more at the coordinators.

USM - Bower would probably be owning this version of CUSA. I bet if he were still with the school you would win 9 to 11 games every year. Not the most exciting coach, but a nasty defense and solid fundamentals.

WKU - it's 100% on your coach. He's horrible.

If somebody wants a new coach I would look at Ruffin McNeil. A good coach that got thrown away by a school he loved for a serious downgrade.
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Charlotte people are at a round table drinking bourbon laughing at your cluelessness in the matter.

Lambert is the worst close this conference has ever seen. Even Elian Johnson only lasted a year.
Lambert has run the same “it doesn’t work offense” and same “9 yard of the ball zone” for six seasons now.
He will have torpedoed us until 2021 by the time his echo of incompetence stops clanging around this conference.
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The 1 thing that came out of the Jackson St game was that we needed to fix our running game. That was the focus of the coaching staff. Our running game was worse against Monroe. Anderson and Mosley are probably our best 2 backs and they never played a down.

Hopson goes for it on 4th and 1 with Daniels, he basically says 'Daniels was already in the game'. Daniels is a 5'9", 175 lb back while Anderson is 6'2", 242 lb back. Daniels is by far our smallest RB and the last guy that should be in on a 4th and 1 play.

Our starter is Tez Parks, only because he is a decent receiver out of the backfield. They think Tez is Ito and he is not.
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I feel bad for the WKU fans. You guys are on the emotional roller coaster USM experienced after our 2011 season.
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(09-09-2018 07:05 PM)moss2k Wrote:  Lambert is 18-42. 18 and 42.


Cue: Bull Durham (another memorable NC team)...

How did we WIN 18?
It’s a miracle?
It’s a miracle!
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We have now lost 7 of our last 8. This was a program coming off of back to back conference championships. This is a program that had an NFL caliber QB, LB, and TE last season and finished 6-7. We are getting worse each game as every opposing coach discovers that we will stupidly run the same play over and over regardless of how the defense is lining up. In his post game presser, he mentioned how he didn't expect Maine to be in a certain defensive set based on percentages. Like he didn't notice that they were changing their schemes to defeat our pregame plans. "The card said they wouldn't defend against my vanilla offensive play calls like this every down, but darn it they did!"

What a dummy.
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(09-09-2018 09:45 PM)Tintin Wrote:  Charlotte people are at a round table drinking bourbon laughing at your cluelessness in the matter.

Lambert is the worst close this conference has ever seen. Even Elian Johnson only lasted a year.
Lambert has run the same “it doesn’t work offense” and same “9 yard of the ball zone” for six seasons now.
He will have torpedoed us until 2021 by the time his echo of incompetence stops clanging around this conference.

You can call it cluelessness, but you are clouded in your thoughts due to your fandom. You simply do not have good enough players to win. You do not have players that know what it takes to win at the FBS level because, frankly, no player on your team has won at the FBS level.

I'm not saying Lambert is good, I'm saying that he, or almost any other coach, is in a horrible position trying to recruit to a school that has no history and that has become a perineal bottom feeder in what has become a bottom feeder conference. If you would have been in FCS for 5-10 years and built some success there recruiting would have been easier.

Coaching is important, but nobody can win without talent or with only a handful of good players. At least not on any kind of consistent basis. If you had the best players in the conference and went 6-6, then you have a problem.
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(09-10-2018 08:14 AM)banker Wrote:  
(09-09-2018 09:45 PM)Tintin Wrote:  Charlotte people are at a round table drinking bourbon laughing at your cluelessness in the matter.

Lambert is the worst close this conference has ever seen. Even Elian Johnson only lasted a year.
Lambert has run the same “it doesn’t work offense” and same “9 yard of the ball zone” for six seasons now.
He will have torpedoed us until 2021 by the time his echo of incompetence stops clanging around this conference.

You can call it cluelessness, but you are clouded in your thoughts due to your fandom. You simply do not have good enough players to win. You do not have players that know what it takes to win at the FBS level because, frankly, no player on your team has won at the FBS level.

I'm not saying Lambert is good, I'm saying that he, or almost any other coach, is in a horrible position trying to recruit to a school that has no history and that has become a perineal bottom feeder in what has become a bottom feeder conference. If you would have been in FCS for 5-10 years and built some success there recruiting would have been easier.

Coaching is important, but nobody can win without talent or with only a handful of good players. At least not on any kind of consistent basis. If you had the best players in the conference and went 6-6, then you have a problem.

You are aware that coaches recruit the talent, are you not?
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(09-10-2018 08:14 AM)banker Wrote:  
(09-09-2018 09:45 PM)Tintin Wrote:  Charlotte people are at a round table drinking bourbon laughing at your cluelessness in the matter.

Lambert is the worst close this conference has ever seen. Even Elian Johnson only lasted a year.
Lambert has run the same “it doesn’t work offense” and same “9 yard of the ball zone” for six seasons now.
He will have torpedoed us until 2021 by the time his echo of incompetence stops clanging around this conference.

You can call it cluelessness, but you are clouded in your thoughts due to your fandom. You simply do not have good enough players to win. You do not have players that know what it takes to win at the FBS level because, frankly, no player on your team has won at the FBS level.

I'm not saying Lambert is good, I'm saying that he, or almost any other coach, is in a horrible position trying to recruit to a school that has no history and that has become a perineal bottom feeder in what has become a bottom feeder conference. If you would have been in FCS for 5-10 years and built some success there recruiting would have been easier.

Coaching is important, but nobody can win without talent or with only a handful of good players. At least not on any kind of consistent basis. If you had the best players in the conference and went 6-6, then you have a problem.

Any that’s exactly what I’m saying. Dude doesn’t recruit Charlotte. He can’t build a relationship. He gives scholarship’s to dudes who have no business playing at this level..

Tell me how many of Lane Kiffen’s players last season knew how to win at the FCS level? They went 3-9 the previous three seasons. Or North Texas last year? They won 10 games the previous three season. Those programs had winning cultures prior to their new coaches coming in?

You don’t need history to win football games.

You need an organized leader who can motivate players, who can adjust to situations on the fly, who can get recruits to buy into the system and who lead with passion and by example.

Lambert has none of these qualities.
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(09-10-2018 09:29 AM)Tintin Wrote:  
(09-10-2018 08:14 AM)banker Wrote:  
(09-09-2018 09:45 PM)Tintin Wrote:  Charlotte people are at a round table drinking bourbon laughing at your cluelessness in the matter.

Lambert is the worst close this conference has ever seen. Even Elian Johnson only lasted a year.
Lambert has run the same “it doesn’t work offense” and same “9 yard of the ball zone” for six seasons now.
He will have torpedoed us until 2021 by the time his echo of incompetence stops clanging around this conference.

You can call it cluelessness, but you are clouded in your thoughts due to your fandom. You simply do not have good enough players to win. You do not have players that know what it takes to win at the FBS level because, frankly, no player on your team has won at the FBS level.

I'm not saying Lambert is good, I'm saying that he, or almost any other coach, is in a horrible position trying to recruit to a school that has no history and that has become a perineal bottom feeder in what has become a bottom feeder conference. If you would have been in FCS for 5-10 years and built some success there recruiting would have been easier.

Coaching is important, but nobody can win without talent or with only a handful of good players. At least not on any kind of consistent basis. If you had the best players in the conference and went 6-6, then you have a problem.

Any that’s exactly what I’m saying. Dude doesn’t recruit Charlotte. He can’t build a relationship. He gives scholarship’s to dudes who have no business playing at this level..

Tell me how many of Lane Kiffen’s players last season knew how to win at the FCS level? They went 3-9 the previous three seasons. Or North Texas last year? They won 10 games the previous three season. Those programs had winning cultures prior to their new coaches coming in?

You don’t need history to win football games.

You need an organized leader who can motivate players, who can adjust to situations on the fly, who can get recruits to buy into the system and who lead with passion and by example.

Lambert has none of these qualities.

Yeah, most 16-year-old football players don't give two nickels about a program's history. They want to know whether they'll play, whether they'll have a chance to win, and whether NFL scouts will see them.

Charlotte is 2 for 1 in those factors. Winning fixes everything.
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Yes, and I'll leave it up to you to tell me what a coach has to sell to a recruit to come and play for Charlotte as compared to the other options in the market. What do you offer that is superior to the ACC schools in your region? What do you offer that makes you more attractive than ECU or App State? For that matter, would you rather play for championships at JMU or the hope of 5-7 at Charlotte?

That's why I said the only chance you guys have to get better in the short term is to spend a ton of money on a name coach that can attract players that want to play for him and don't care that it's at Charlotte. There are no 16-18 year old kids out there who grew up cheering for, or dreaming of playing for, Charlotte football.


This is not a knock on Charlotte regardless of much you see it that way. It's just very hard to be a start up in anything, especially when you are trying to build the roof before you built the foundation.
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(09-10-2018 09:36 AM)banker Wrote:  Yes, and I'll leave it up to you to tell me what a coach has to sell to a recruit to come and play for Charlotte as compared to the other options in the market. What do you offer that is superior to the ACC schools in your region? What do you offer that makes you more attractive than ECU or App State? For that matter, would you rather play for championships at JMU or the hope of 5-7 at Charlotte?

That's why I said the only chance you guys have to get better in the short term is to spend a ton of money on a name coach that can attract players that want to play for him and don't care that it's at Charlotte. There are no 16-18 year old kids out there who grew up cheering for, or dreaming of playing for, Charlotte football.


This is not a knock on Charlotte regardless of much you see it that way. It's just very hard to be a start up in anything, especially when you are trying to build the roof before you built the foundation.

Then we'll have to drop some money on a coach, won't we? Unlike our previous AD, Mike Hill won't have the same qualms about paying for success.
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(09-10-2018 07:41 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  The 1 thing that came out of the Jackson St game was that we needed to fix our running game. That was the focus of the coaching staff. Our running game was worse against Monroe. Anderson and Mosley are probably our best 2 backs and they never played a down.

Hopson goes for it on 4th and 1 with Daniels, he basically says 'Daniels was already in the game'. Daniels is a 5'9", 175 lb back while Anderson is 6'2", 242 lb back. Daniels is by far our smallest RB and the last guy that should be in on a 4th and 1 play.

Our starter is Tez Parks, only because he is a decent receiver out of the backfield. They think Tez is Ito and he is not.

And just when you think it can't get any worse this scenario happens:

- ULM has the ball in 4Q up 21-20 at the long 32 and USM has all 3 timeouts
- ULM gets 2 first downs, has the ball with about 2:30 on the clock and calls a running play on 2nd down and gains 7. Instead of calling our 1st timeout we let the play clock and game clock run off 39 seconds at which point ULM calls a timeout with 1:38 left in game.
- ULM throws incomplete on 3rd down and punts to us at the 1:27 mark...and our returner calls a fair catch and catches it on the 5 yard line.
- Our brilliant OC calls a running play up the middle on 1st down that nets 5 yards (no timeout called still)
- We make it out to the long 47 via several passes. On 1st down again we call a running play up the middle and eventually use our first timeout of the 2nd half with 22 seconds left
- Next play is the game ending interception. The USM receiver was open initially but the ULM LB dropped into coverage and made a perfect read on it.

So to recap we don't call a timeout when ULM is bleeding the clock, we fair catch a punt on the 5, then we end the game with 2 timeouts still in our back pocket
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(09-10-2018 11:13 AM)usm99 Wrote:  
(09-10-2018 07:41 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  The 1 thing that came out of the Jackson St game was that we needed to fix our running game. That was the focus of the coaching staff. Our running game was worse against Monroe. Anderson and Mosley are probably our best 2 backs and they never played a down.

Hopson goes for it on 4th and 1 with Daniels, he basically says 'Daniels was already in the game'. Daniels is a 5'9", 175 lb back while Anderson is 6'2", 242 lb back. Daniels is by far our smallest RB and the last guy that should be in on a 4th and 1 play.

Our starter is Tez Parks, only because he is a decent receiver out of the backfield. They think Tez is Ito and he is not.

And just when you think it can't get any worse this scenario happens:

- ULM has the ball in 4Q up 21-20 at the long 32 and USM has all 3 timeouts
- ULM gets 2 first downs, has the ball with about 2:30 on the clock and calls a running play on 2nd down and gains 7. Instead of calling our 1st timeout we let the play clock and game clock run off 39 seconds at which point ULM calls a timeout with 1:38 left in game.
- ULM throws incomplete on 3rd down and punts to us at the 1:27 mark...and our returner calls a fair catch and catches it on the 5 yard line.
- Our brilliant OC calls a running play up the middle on 1st down that nets 5 yards (no timeout called still)
- We make it out to the long 47 via several passes. On 1st down again we call a running play up the middle and eventually use our first timeout of the 2nd half with 22 seconds left
- Next play is the game ending interception. The USM receiver was open initially but the ULM LB dropped into coverage and made a perfect read on it.

So to recap we don't call a timeout when ULM is bleeding the clock, we fair catch a punt on the 5, then we end the game with 2 timeouts still in our back pocket

Ouchie. Sanforditis is contagious is sounds like.
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(09-10-2018 08:04 AM)freshtop Wrote:  We have now lost 7 of our last 8. This was a program coming off of back to back conference championships. This is a program that had an NFL caliber QB, LB, and TE last season and finished 6-7. We are getting worse each game as every opposing coach discovers that we will stupidly run the same play over and over regardless of how the defense is lining up. In his post game presser, he mentioned how he didn't expect Maine to be in a certain defensive set based on percentages. Like he didn't notice that they were changing their schemes to defeat our pregame plans. "The card said they wouldn't defend against my vanilla offensive play calls like this every down, but darn it they did!"

What a dummy.


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(09-10-2018 08:14 AM)banker Wrote:  
(09-09-2018 09:45 PM)Tintin Wrote:  Charlotte people are at a round table drinking bourbon laughing at your cluelessness in the matter.

Lambert is the worst close this conference has ever seen. Even Elian Johnson only lasted a year.
Lambert has run the same “it doesn’t work offense” and same “9 yard of the ball zone” for six seasons now.
He will have torpedoed us until 2021 by the time his echo of incompetence stops clanging around this conference.

You can call it cluelessness, but you are clouded in your thoughts due to your fandom. You simply do not have good enough players to win. You do not have players that know what it takes to win at the FBS level because, frankly, no player on your team has won at the FBS level.

I'm not saying Lambert is good, I'm saying that he, or almost any other coach, is in a horrible position trying to recruit to a school that has no history and that has become a perineal bottom feeder in what has become a bottom feeder conference. If you would have been in FCS for 5-10 years and built some success there recruiting would have been easier.

Coaching is important, but nobody can win without talent or with only a handful of good players. At least not on any kind of consistent basis. If you had the best players in the conference and went 6-6, then you have a problem.

We've had bad coaching and worse recruiting. Not much else needs to be said. Judging Charlotte based on Judy Rose and Brad Lambert is probably not going to provide the best long-term evaluation. That said, Mike Hill needs to hit a HR with Sanchez (MBB) and Lambert's successor.
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(09-10-2018 11:13 AM)usm99 Wrote:  
(09-10-2018 07:41 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  The 1 thing that came out of the Jackson St game was that we needed to fix our running game. That was the focus of the coaching staff. Our running game was worse against Monroe. Anderson and Mosley are probably our best 2 backs and they never played a down.

Hopson goes for it on 4th and 1 with Daniels, he basically says 'Daniels was already in the game'. Daniels is a 5'9", 175 lb back while Anderson is 6'2", 242 lb back. Daniels is by far our smallest RB and the last guy that should be in on a 4th and 1 play.

Our starter is Tez Parks, only because he is a decent receiver out of the backfield. They think Tez is Ito and he is not.

And just when you think it can't get any worse this scenario happens:

- ULM has the ball in 4Q up 21-20 at the long 32 and USM has all 3 timeouts
- ULM gets 2 first downs, has the ball with about 2:30 on the clock and calls a running play on 2nd down and gains 7. Instead of calling our 1st timeout we let the play clock and game clock run off 39 seconds at which point ULM calls a timeout with 1:38 left in game.
- ULM throws incomplete on 3rd down and punts to us at the 1:27 mark...and our returner calls a fair catch and catches it on the 5 yard line.
- Our brilliant OC calls a running play up the middle on 1st down that nets 5 yards (no timeout called still)
- We make it out to the long 47 via several passes. On 1st down again we call a running play up the middle and eventually use our first timeout of the 2nd half with 22 seconds left
- Next play is the game ending interception. The USM receiver was open initially but the ULM LB dropped into coverage and made a perfect read on it.

So to recap we don't call a timeout when ULM is bleeding the clock, we fair catch a punt on the 5, then we end the game with 2 timeouts still in our back pocket

That's ALL on the coaching staff. Terrible.

I don't understand how these kids can't learn that you stand on the 10 yard line to receive the punt. If the ball's going to go over your head, wave you're arm like you're going to fair catch it and then get the hell out of the way and let it bounce into the end zone.
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If you had posted this about 5 or 6 years ago, I could have put on a show for the ages here. But our fans and myself love Bill Clark. I have never been able to say that about a UAB Football Coach ever.
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(09-09-2018 07:35 PM)banker Wrote:  Here's my unsolicited take.

Middle - better look hard at USM and what happened there. A coach that can get you to a bowl every year actually isn't that easy to find. You get good talent, good athletes, I would look more at the coordinators.

That's a bit of a stretch for comparisons.

Bower went 119-83-1

Stock is 80-73

You aren't totally off base, but Stock has been a bit more average than Bower was

Apathy around our program is abundant. We had 28k in attendance for a Tuesday night game against Troy in Stock's early days when there was excitement around the program.

Stock is a fine coach, but I'm afraid we've seen his best already, if in twelve seasons he can only win more than seven games three times(8,8, and 10) and can only manage a SBC co-championship in his very first season, and can only manage a 2-5 bowl record, why should we ever hope for better in year 13 and beyond.

I do not believe he has the ability to lead us to the type of season it would require to win back the fan base at this point.
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