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RE: Northeast Conference expanding to add Merrimack College
New Hampshire and Stony Brook wouldn't be happy just joining a worse conference. CAA routinely gets 4 teams in the playoffs, that AE Football thing would be like 1 bid every year.
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(09-11-2018 09:56 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Actually Stony Brook's stated goal is to get into FBS. The state of New York could use some more FBS teams. Both Stony Brook and Albany want to get move up to a better conference. The AEC is not their goals. Since they are being blocked by Hofstra from joining full membership. The next step would be FBS for both. They want to be with James Madison and the other CAA schools. The football members of the CAA wanted both schools in as full members. Could the MAC and make a coup and go to 16 and grab both schools, James Madison and Delaware.

The MAC is not expanding any time soon!
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Well another lose for sacred heart in all sports except maybe football...i
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(09-14-2018 04:40 PM)Bogg Wrote:  
(09-14-2018 04:09 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  I think you are more likely to see America East football and CAA football. Even that is slim.

America East Football
Albany
Maine
New Hampshire
Stony Brook
Central Connecticut State (Add as full member)
Rhode Island (Affiliate)
Monmouth (Affiliate)
Fordham (Affiliate)

CAA Football
Delaware
Elon
James Madison
Towson
William & Mary
Richmond (Affiliate)
Villanova (Affiliate)
Youngstown State (Affiliate)

I don't think anyone wants that, aside from maybe Monmouth. Any realignment of two non-football-playing conferences along football lines is a solution in search of a problem. CAAF as a single-sport conference already addresses the issue of who-plays-where and keeps everyone in more suitable main conferences for their Olympics.


CAA have a Hofstra and Northeastern problem. They are just as bad as the Catholic 7 in the old Big East. James Madison and the other CAA football members really did not want Elon or College of Charleston. They wanted Albany, Stony Brook or the other football only schools to join.

The CAA football, URI, Maine, New Hampshire and all the other football only schools would gain a lot.

Fine, if UNC-Wilmington and College of Charleston both should go to the Big South. I do not think Southern Conference welcome them both back into the conference. CAA is a northeast conference which those 2 and Elon do not belong either.
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(09-10-2018 10:38 AM)ccd494 Wrote:  http://northeastconference.org/news/2018...EC_18.aspx

Men's and women's hockey are already D-I in Hockey East.

cool, the Merrimac is sailing into the North easts waters.. North east fans agree to Monitor the situation. 01-france
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(09-15-2018 01:09 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(09-14-2018 04:40 PM)Bogg Wrote:  
(09-14-2018 04:09 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  I think you are more likely to see America East football and CAA football. Even that is slim.

America East Football
Albany
Maine
New Hampshire
Stony Brook
Central Connecticut State (Add as full member)
Rhode Island (Affiliate)
Monmouth (Affiliate)
Fordham (Affiliate)

CAA Football
Delaware
Elon
James Madison
Towson
William & Mary
Richmond (Affiliate)
Villanova (Affiliate)
Youngstown State (Affiliate)

I don't think anyone wants that, aside from maybe Monmouth. Any realignment of two non-football-playing conferences along football lines is a solution in search of a problem. CAAF as a single-sport conference already addresses the issue of who-plays-where and keeps everyone in more suitable main conferences for their Olympics.

Fine, if UNC-Wilmington and College of Charleston both should go to the Big South. I do not think Southern Conference welcome them both back into the conference. CAA is a northeast conference which those 2 and Elon do not belong either.

Neither would drop down to the Big South, and I'm sure SoCon would love to have both schools for basketball.
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You can blame Northeastern, Hofstra, and UNC Wilmington for the dysfunction of the CAA.

The first two bamboozled the rest into letting them into the league because they had football and then promptly dropped it once their membership was secured. Hofstra then uses its influence to keep Albany and Stonybrook out.

UNC Wilmington whined and demanded southern schools and got two of them.

How they should be aligned:

Maine
New Hampshire
Central Connecticut St
Albany
Stonybrook
Delaware
Towson
JMU
William & Mary
Rhode Island (FB only)
Villanova (FB only)
Richmond (FB only)

AEC:
Vermont
Hartford
Northeastern
Hofstra
Drexel
Binghamton
UMBC
NJIT
UMass-Lowell

UNC-Wilmington joins a southern based league. Charleston and Elon never join.

Both of those leagues are a little on the small size so if they need some more bodies the NEC is always there to grab from.
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Where's my eye rolling emoji? There is no need, zero, to separate these schools by football/non-football. The members of CAA Football (who are FULL MEMBERS of that conference) are perfectly happy playing football in a league that isn't branded as their all sports league. Maine and UNH are used to their premier sport being in a stand alone league (hockey). They are fine with it in football too.

Maine/UNH/UVM/Lowell make too much sense to not be in a league together. So do the three SUNYs. And all seven fit well together, as does UMBC. There's eight. Hartford is fine. If the CAA implodes, America East would likely welcome Northeastern back to get back into Boston proper. Otherwise, stop putting this much effort into splitting up one of like four leagues nationally that continues to make any sense with its institutions and geography.
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AmEast stands to gain from whatever happens in CAA/F if something ever happens there. I’m a long time believer that conference has some tough days ahead if/once JMU leaves. To CAA/F’s credit, it survives (and thrives in the case of CAAF) even if Hofstra, Northeastern, and UNCW took it to potentially murky territory.

Maybe CAA dies a horrible death, but I’d wager the separate football conference lives on, even with AmEast attached to it by name if it went that way. It’s a shame AmEast lost what it did to CAA, but the football arrangement as is works quite well. Ever notice how it also works for MVFC and Big Sky, too?
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If CAA/F as a whole move up to FBS? They have to be an a sports league. JMU and to some idea, Delaware wants out to join an FBS league. William & Mary and Villanova are looking towards The Patriot. Stony Brook's goal is FBS. Richmond could follow the other 2 to join the Patriot. CAA football would look like this.

URI
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Maine
Towson
Elon
Albany

And if Albany follows Stony Brook? CAA/f is dead. That is why the football schools should exchange with conferences that do not have football. There is no new conferences being formed. All conferences involve would still play each other in all sports as alliances once the P5 starts playing less with them outside of football.
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If JMU ever leaves for FBS I think the CAA crumbles. William & Mary will receive overtures for membership from the Patriot and join as a full member, bring Richmond football with them and maybe Villanova's too. America East will offer invites to Towson and Delaware, giving them 6 football members. URI, Villanova, and Monmouth will be offered FB invites to AEC football bringing the league's numbers to 11 full members, 6 which play football, and 2-3 football affiliates. If they get desperate Central Connecticut St is another option out there too.

Elon has to seek FB membership in the Big South.
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(09-17-2018 07:31 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  If JMU ever leaves for FBS I think the CAA crumbles. William & Mary will receive overtures for membership from the Patriot and join as a full member, bring Richmond football with them and maybe Villanova's too. America East will offer invites to Towson and Delaware, giving them 6 football members. URI, Villanova, and Monmouth will be offered FB invites to AEC football bringing the league's numbers to 11 full members, 6 which play football, and 2-3 football affiliates. If they get desperate Central Connecticut St is another option out there too.

Elon has to seek FB membership in the Big South.


Plus, Robert Morris is looking around as well.

someone pointed out D2 New Haven was looking to join D1 15 years ago. They recently brought football back. They fit in the NEC geographically. I have them on the list for future D1. From what I read, they had over 22,000 for their 1st game after restarting football. That seems to be close around UConn.'s home attendance.
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(09-17-2018 07:31 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  If JMU ever leaves for FBS I think the CAA crumbles. William & Mary will receive overtures for membership from the Patriot and join as a full member, bring Richmond football with them and maybe Villanova's too. America East will offer invites to Towson and Delaware, giving them 6 football members. URI, Villanova, and Monmouth will be offered FB invites to AEC football bringing the league's numbers to 11 full members, 6 which play football, and 2-3 football affiliates. If they get desperate Central Connecticut St is another option out there too.

Elon has to seek FB membership in the Big South.

I’m sure the programs the Patriot approached some time back probably still hear it from them, as the topic hasn’t died in Patsy, and it seems like they know who they want of what’s out there. That’s all of W&M and/or Villanova, Richmond, and UNH football.

I don’t know if ridding the AI in Patriot makes them an instant player in realignment and forces some movement in FCS. CAAF seems like the victim. CAAF seems to hinge on certain blocs of schools liking the general arrangement; disrupt the chemistry and who knows what. Seems like it’s one move away from mucking up the place. For example, I doubt Villanova and Richmond want Monmouth in CAAF...Stony probably doesn’t, too. But, if you need Monmouth now, who left, and does that departure really start things, not the backfill?

I do think Patriot growth does eventually hit MAAC or NEC, even if and likely not directly. Merrimack getting the call tells me NJIT could still not find their way into a northeastern conference.
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(09-18-2018 01:31 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Plus, Robert Morris is looking around as well.

someone pointed out D2 New Haven was looking to join D1 15 years ago. They recently brought football back. They fit in the NEC geographically. I have them on the list for future D1. From what I read, they had over 22,000 for their 1st game after restarting football. That seems to be close around UConn.'s home attendance.

No surprise here. EVERYONE is on your list for future D1. New Haven may have looked at going D1 but it most likely would have been without football. Fifteen years ago was 2003, which was the season football was dropped.

You really should stop posting until you get ALL THE FACTS correct. New Haven restarted football in 2009. Their first game was at Lincoln (PA)

Quote:Stadium: Avon Grove HS Attendance: 1700
Kickoff time: 1:00 PM End of Game: 3:57 PM Total elapsed time: 2:57
https://static.lulions.com/custompages/f...funhlu.htm.

Their first home game vs Bentley in week 3

Quote:Date: 09/19/09 • Site: West Haven, Conn. • Stadium: DellaCamera Stadium • Attendance: 2136
http://www.bentleyfalcons.com/sports/fba...benunh.htm.

Ralph F. DellaCamera Stadium currently has a listed capacity at 3,500. Why would New Haven have a stadium that can seat 22,000 only to remove 18,500 seats and Avon Grove HS certainly has never had a stadium that can hold that many fans. New Haven has played 1 home game in the 2018 season and had 4,280 in attendance for a trophy game against Southern Connecticut State.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/n...013118.pdf
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I'm going to predict that every current D2 school (as of September 18, 2018) will be a potential candidate for NEC expansion. That way I have all of my bases covered if/when future expansion happens. Then once a school moves up I can tell everyone here how I predicted this years in advance.
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(09-18-2018 10:37 AM)AZcats Wrote:  
(09-18-2018 01:31 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Plus, Robert Morris is looking around as well.

someone pointed out D2 New Haven was looking to join D1 15 years ago. They recently brought football back. They fit in the NEC geographically. I have them on the list for future D1. From what I read, they had over 22,000 for their 1st game after restarting football. That seems to be close around UConn.'s home attendance.

No surprise here. EVERYONE is on your list for future D1. New Haven may have looked at going D1 but it most likely would have been without football. Fifteen years ago was 2003, which was the season football was dropped.

You really should stop posting until you get ALL THE FACTS correct. New Haven restarted football in 2009. Their first game was at Lincoln (PA)

Quote:Stadium: Avon Grove HS Attendance: 1700
Kickoff time: 1:00 PM End of Game: 3:57 PM Total elapsed time: 2:57
https://static.lulions.com/custompages/f...funhlu.htm.

Their first home game vs Bentley in week 3

Quote:Date: 09/19/09 • Site: West Haven, Conn. • Stadium: DellaCamera Stadium • Attendance: 2136
http://www.bentleyfalcons.com/sports/fba...benunh.htm.

Ralph F. DellaCamera Stadium currently has a listed capacity at 3,500. Why would New Haven have a stadium that can seat 22,000 only to remove 18,500 seats and Avon Grove HS certainly has never had a stadium that can hold that many fans. New Haven has played 1 home game in the 2018 season and had 4,280 in attendance for a trophy game against Southern Connecticut State.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/n...013118.pdf
https://newhavenchargers.com/facilities/?id=3


Someone may have done a typo then because whoever that person did, did not proof read what was typed. Adding an extra 2 may have been read like 22,136. I thought reporters took English classes. I have seen a lot of Grammar and spelling problems in a bunch of articles in recent years.
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(09-18-2018 02:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(09-18-2018 10:37 AM)AZcats Wrote:  
(09-18-2018 01:31 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Plus, Robert Morris is looking around as well.

someone pointed out D2 New Haven was looking to join D1 15 years ago. They recently brought football back. They fit in the NEC geographically. I have them on the list for future D1. From what I read, they had over 22,000 for their 1st game after restarting football. That seems to be close around UConn.'s home attendance.

No surprise here. EVERYONE is on your list for future D1. New Haven may have looked at going D1 but it most likely would have been without football. Fifteen years ago was 2003, which was the season football was dropped.

You really should stop posting until you get ALL THE FACTS correct. New Haven restarted football in 2009. Their first game was at Lincoln (PA)

Quote:Stadium: Avon Grove HS Attendance: 1700
Kickoff time: 1:00 PM End of Game: 3:57 PM Total elapsed time: 2:57
https://static.lulions.com/custompages/f...funhlu.htm.

Their first home game vs Bentley in week 3

Quote:Date: 09/19/09 • Site: West Haven, Conn. • Stadium: DellaCamera Stadium • Attendance: 2136
http://www.bentleyfalcons.com/sports/fba...benunh.htm.

Ralph F. DellaCamera Stadium currently has a listed capacity at 3,500. Why would New Haven have a stadium that can seat 22,000 only to remove 18,500 seats and Avon Grove HS certainly has never had a stadium that can hold that many fans. New Haven has played 1 home game in the 2018 season and had 4,280 in attendance for a trophy game against Southern Connecticut State.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/n...013118.pdf
https://newhavenchargers.com/facilities/?id=3


Someone may have done a typo then because whoever that person did, did not proof read what was typed. Adding an extra 2 may have been read like 22,136. I thought reporters took English classes. I have seen a lot of Grammar and spelling problems in a bunch of articles in recent years.

Yeah, right. Blame someone else for you not having correct facts. Relying on reading something somewhere and other secondary sources is no substitute for citing actual facts from the primary source. You learned that in your own classes for the degree you earned.
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(09-18-2018 02:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(09-18-2018 10:37 AM)AZcats Wrote:  
(09-18-2018 01:31 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Plus, Robert Morris is looking around as well.

someone pointed out D2 New Haven was looking to join D1 15 years ago. They recently brought football back. They fit in the NEC geographically. I have them on the list for future D1. From what I read, they had over 22,000 for their 1st game after restarting football. That seems to be close around UConn.'s home attendance.

No surprise here. EVERYONE is on your list for future D1. New Haven may have looked at going D1 but it most likely would have been without football. Fifteen years ago was 2003, which was the season football was dropped.

You really should stop posting until you get ALL THE FACTS correct. New Haven restarted football in 2009. Their first game was at Lincoln (PA)

Quote:Stadium: Avon Grove HS Attendance: 1700
Kickoff time: 1:00 PM End of Game: 3:57 PM Total elapsed time: 2:57
https://static.lulions.com/custompages/f...funhlu.htm.

Their first home game vs Bentley in week 3

Quote:Date: 09/19/09 • Site: West Haven, Conn. • Stadium: DellaCamera Stadium • Attendance: 2136
http://www.bentleyfalcons.com/sports/fba...benunh.htm.

Ralph F. DellaCamera Stadium currently has a listed capacity at 3,500. Why would New Haven have a stadium that can seat 22,000 only to remove 18,500 seats and Avon Grove HS certainly has never had a stadium that can hold that many fans. New Haven has played 1 home game in the 2018 season and had 4,280 in attendance for a trophy game against Southern Connecticut State.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/n...013118.pdf
https://newhavenchargers.com/facilities/?id=3


Someone may have done a typo then because whoever that person did, did not proof read what was typed. Adding an extra 2 may have been read like 22,136. I thought reporters took English classes. I have seen a lot of Grammar and spelling problems in a bunch of articles in recent years.

1. New Haven claims a sellout of 4,500 in its second game since restarting the program.
2. DellaCamera Stadium today has a capacity of 5,000, per the conference website. Plus does this look like anything remotely close to a 22,000 seat stadium?
[Image: newhaven_adrotator_full_bottom_dellacamera.jpg]
3. You of all the people on God's green Earth should be the last person to cast stones over grammar and spelling. I could spend a half hour just editing your last post.
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Remember David thought Bill Gates was a supporter of Augustana and their “D1 future” lol
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(09-18-2018 06:53 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(09-18-2018 02:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(09-18-2018 10:37 AM)AZcats Wrote:  
(09-18-2018 01:31 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Plus, Robert Morris is looking around as well.

someone pointed out D2 New Haven was looking to join D1 15 years ago. They recently brought football back. They fit in the NEC geographically. I have them on the list for future D1. From what I read, they had over 22,000 for their 1st game after restarting football. That seems to be close around UConn.'s home attendance.

No surprise here. EVERYONE is on your list for future D1. New Haven may have looked at going D1 but it most likely would have been without football. Fifteen years ago was 2003, which was the season football was dropped.

You really should stop posting until you get ALL THE FACTS correct. New Haven restarted football in 2009. Their first game was at Lincoln (PA)

Quote:Stadium: Avon Grove HS Attendance: 1700
Kickoff time: 1:00 PM End of Game: 3:57 PM Total elapsed time: 2:57
https://static.lulions.com/custompages/f...funhlu.htm.

Their first home game vs Bentley in week 3

Quote:Date: 09/19/09 • Site: West Haven, Conn. • Stadium: DellaCamera Stadium • Attendance: 2136
http://www.bentleyfalcons.com/sports/fba...benunh.htm.

Ralph F. DellaCamera Stadium currently has a listed capacity at 3,500. Why would New Haven have a stadium that can seat 22,000 only to remove 18,500 seats and Avon Grove HS certainly has never had a stadium that can hold that many fans. New Haven has played 1 home game in the 2018 season and had 4,280 in attendance for a trophy game against Southern Connecticut State.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/n...013118.pdf
https://newhavenchargers.com/facilities/?id=3


Someone may have done a typo then because whoever that person did, did not proof read what was typed. Adding an extra 2 may have been read like 22,136. I thought reporters took English classes. I have seen a lot of Grammar and spelling problems in a bunch of articles in recent years.

1. New Haven claims a sellout of 4,500 in its second game since restarting the program.
2. DellaCamera Stadium today has a capacity of 5,000, per the conference website. Plus does this look like anything remotely close to a 22,000 seat stadium?
[Image: newhaven_adrotator_full_bottom_dellacamera.jpg]
3. You of all the people on God's green Earth should be the last person to cast stones over grammar and spelling. I could spend a half hour just editing your last post.


I have more excuse than these reporters for having grammar and spelling problems. You should have seen my writings back in high school. It was even worst.
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