(10-10-2018 01:52 AM)panite Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 12:17 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(10-09-2018 03:15 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  

(10-08-2018 01:20 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  If BYU was invited to the AAC, could they propel the AAC into the P5/A5 and make it a legitimate P6?? I’ve been curious about this idea for awhile now.

Guys, the BYU talk gets old.

It's a bad fit, and if they wanted to join a G5 conference the MWC is a better fit for them and includes fine programs like SDSU, Fresno State and Boise State. Their football has struggled as of late and many, including me, believe it's at least partly because they took the stupid route of leaving the MWC. Well, Lavell Edwards isn't walking through that door any time soon and they need to go back.

Not sure if the MWC will take them back, plus it hems them in to only the western portion of the US. BYU wants to have exposure in the eastern portion of the US, as well. Believe it or not, LDS roots are in the East, not the West.

Quote:Stop trying to fix our innate problems with additional members - show up to your home games, donate, and root for your teams - if we all did that in the first place we wouldn't need additional members.

If the C-USA teams that are now in the AAC took your advice to heart back then, more than likely there is no AAC. For the record though, I do agree with you. Every conference should strive to do this. I can't tell you how long I've been saying that the Big XII needs its own conference network. Will they ever? I have my doubts because they're too darn scared of Bevo moseying away from them.

The MWC would take them back in a NY minute. They would even add NMST to balance the conference at 14 members if BYU joined the conference again.

Not so fast. Several MWC refuse to schedule them for anything. There are lots of hard feeling after their stunt in 2011.


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Given that this is the American ATHLETIC Conference, I think that they would be a good add.

However, they've got a cocky, condescending, cheap shotting attitude about them that I just don't like. If I were the king, I'd give them a thumbs down.

(10-10-2018 11:06 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 01:52 AM)panite Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 12:17 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(10-09-2018 03:15 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  

(10-08-2018 01:20 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  If BYU was invited to the AAC, could they propel the AAC into the P5/A5 and make it a legitimate P6?? I’ve been curious about this idea for awhile now.

Guys, the BYU talk gets old.

It's a bad fit, and if they wanted to join a G5 conference the MWC is a better fit for them and includes fine programs like SDSU, Fresno State and Boise State. Their football has struggled as of late and many, including me, believe it's at least partly because they took the stupid route of leaving the MWC. Well, Lavell Edwards isn't walking through that door any time soon and they need to go back.

Not sure if the MWC will take them back, plus it hems them in to only the western portion of the US. BYU wants to have exposure in the eastern portion of the US, as well. Believe it or not, LDS roots are in the East, not the West.

Quote:Stop trying to fix our innate problems with additional members - show up to your home games, donate, and root for your teams - if we all did that in the first place we wouldn't need additional members.

If the C-USA teams that are now in the AAC took your advice to heart back then, more than likely there is no AAC. For the record though, I do agree with you. Every conference should strive to do this. I can't tell you how long I've been saying that the Big XII needs its own conference network. Will they ever? I have my doubts because they're too darn scared of Bevo moseying away from them.

The MWC would take them back in a NY minute. They would even add NMST to balance the conference at 14 members if BYU joined the conference again.

Not so fast. Several MWC refuse to schedule them for anything. There are lots of hard feeling after their stunt in 2011.


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2011 -2025 - BYU has played or will play 9 of the 12 MW schools 2 to 12 time with Boise (11 games) and Utah State (12 games) on the BYU schedules most. BYU is currently working on a home and home with Air Force. That leaves CSU and NM as the only gold outs. If the money is right and /or if the AAC takes a run at them, I'm sure Thompson will get they votes to bring them back if BYU is interested in returning.

No but BYU would do more for the AAC than 7-8 of 12 current members.

(10-09-2018 03:15 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  

(10-08-2018 01:20 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  If BYU was invited to the AAC, could they propel the AAC into the P5/A5 and make it a legitimate P6?? I’ve been curious about this idea for awhile now.

Guys, the BYU talk gets old.

It's a bad fit, and if they wanted to join a G5 conference the MWC is a better fit for them and includes fine programs like SDSU, Fresno State and Boise State. Their football has struggled as of late and many, including me, believe it's at least partly because they took the stupid route of leaving the MWC. Well, Lavell Edwards isn't walking through that door any time soon and they need to go back.

Them joining the AAC would be a B level marriage, two wanna-be's obviously trying to get someone to throw them a bone and get a little attention. What this conference needs is stability, rivalry, and the continued success it's having, not the collegiate athletic equivalent to Melanie Griffith and Don Johnson getting married.

Stop trying to fix our innate problems with additional members - show up to your home games, donate, and root for your teams - if we all did that in the first place we wouldn't need additional members.

This makes the most sense.

(10-10-2018 04:56 PM)willhclark Wrote:  No but BYU would do more for the AAC than 7-8 of 12 current members.

In frequent flyer miles and number of cheap shots received per game.

BYU is in Utah. It's not happening, just like SDSU, Boise State, or Air Force (or anyone, for that matter). The conference can't go further west. It's already ridiculous how geographically spread it is, and people are calling for it to go coast to coast. You think UConn is gonna wanna fly its volleyball team to San Diego?

(10-10-2018 11:51 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  BYU is in Utah. It's not happening, just like SDSU, Boise State, or Air Force (or anyone, for that matter). The conference can't go further west. It's already ridiculous how geographically spread it is, and people are calling for it to go coast to coast. You think UConn is gonna wanna fly its volleyball team to San Diego?

BYU makes sense as FB only, not an all sports member. Would play in the western division.

But back to the original question, no they would never do for the American what Miami did for BE.

(10-09-2018 11:52 PM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  

(10-09-2018 08:29 PM)panama Wrote:  Why would BYU want fly that distance to play Temple, as an example? Makes no sense no matter how many times its bought up...

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Because their mission is exposure for LDS as well as fielding a competitive football team. Our conference has a lot of big cities. Proselytizing opportunity all over the place. Energizes the base. Get with the program, man.

LOL

If they wanted in they could call Areeco this morning. They don't want in. There are only two conferences they want into.

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(10-10-2018 11:51 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  BYU is in Utah. It's not happening, just like SDSU, Boise State, or Air Force (or anyone, for that matter). The conference can't go further west. It's already ridiculous how geographically spread it is, and people are calling for it to go coast to coast. You think UConn is gonna wanna fly its volleyball team to San Diego?

It's really that simple. Nobody wants to go two time zones away.

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(10-10-2018 10:54 AM)SMUleopold Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 12:17 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(10-09-2018 03:15 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  

(10-08-2018 01:20 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  If BYU was invited to the AAC, could they propel the AAC into the P5/A5 and make it a legitimate P6?? I’ve been curious about this idea for awhile now.

Guys, the BYU talk gets old.

It's a bad fit, and if they wanted to join a G5 conference the MWC is a better fit for them and includes fine programs like SDSU, Fresno State and Boise State. Their football has struggled as of late and many, including me, believe it's at least partly because they took the stupid route of leaving the MWC. Well, Lavell Edwards isn't walking through that door any time soon and they need to go back.

Not sure if the MWC will take them back, plus it hems them in to only the western portion of the US. BYU wants to have exposure in the eastern portion of the US, as well. Believe it or not, LDS roots are in the East, not the West.

Quote:Stop trying to fix our innate problems with additional members - show up to your home games, donate, and root for your teams - if we all did that in the first place we wouldn't need additional members.

If the C-USA teams that are now in the AAC took your advice to heart back then, more than likely there is no AAC. For the record though, I do agree with you. Every conference should strive to do this. I can't tell you how long I've been saying that the Big XII needs its own conference network. Will they ever? I have my doubts because they're too darn scared of Bevo moseying away from them.

Panite is right - the MWC would have BYU back so fast it would make your head spin.

And the AAC was founded out of the Big East schools shedding any pretense of a football conference any more. It's one thing for a school to take a step up, it's another entirely for a conference to try to re-brand themselves by adding a member or two.

(10-11-2018 06:18 AM)panama Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 11:51 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  BYU is in Utah. It's not happening, just like SDSU, Boise State, or Air Force (or anyone, for that matter). The conference can't go further west. It's already ridiculous how geographically spread it is, and people are calling for it to go coast to coast. You think UConn is gonna wanna fly its volleyball team to San Diego?

It's really that simple. Nobody wants to go two time zones away.

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I think the entire discussion assumes FOOTBALL ONLY. No one is suggesting that Volleyball will ever fly across multiple timezones. When SDSU and Boise were joining, it was FB only and it was a big deal for them to find a home for their Olympic sports in the Big West.

Same for BYU I would imagine... IF it were ever considered, would almost certainly be for football only. That's a whole lot more feasible from a travel perspective. Heck, it may even become attractive (for them), as BYU craves 'exposure' in big population centers.. And not horrible for the AAC, as members would only fly out there (for FB) every few years or so. USF flew out to Nevada to play them OOC a couple of years back.

(10-11-2018 09:44 AM)Bull Wrote:  

(10-11-2018 06:18 AM)panama Wrote:  

(10-10-2018 11:51 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  BYU is in Utah. It's not happening, just like SDSU, Boise State, or Air Force (or anyone, for that matter). The conference can't go further west. It's already ridiculous how geographically spread it is, and people are calling for it to go coast to coast. You think UConn is gonna wanna fly its volleyball team to San Diego?

It's really that simple. Nobody wants to go two time zones away.

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I think the entire discussion assumes FOOTBALL ONLY. No one is suggesting that Volleyball will ever fly across multiple timezones. When SDSU and Boise were joining, it was FB only and it was a big deal for them to find a home for their Olympic sports in the Big West.

Same for BYU I would imagine... IF it were ever considered, would almost certainly be for football only. That's a whole lot more feasible from a travel perspective. Heck, it may even become attractive (for them), as BYU craves 'exposure' in big population centers.. And not horrible for the AAC, as members would only fly out there (for FB) every few years or so. USF flew out to Nevada to play them OOC a couple of years back.

That's not the larger narrative for the good chunk of AAC fans that want to see the conference spread west with 2 or more schools. You're not adding BYU, SDSU, and Boise all as football only. And where do they stick their other sports? I guarantee SDSU doesn't throw their hoops into the WCC to play American football.

What the AAC has is a culture problem. College sports has torn up historic rivalries and removed a lot of the interest the casual fan has. It's not just an AAC issue, but it's certainly a bigger issue with the American than any major conference. Adding BYU won't change that. That's a finger in the levee fix. If we're adding schools, look midwest and East Coast. Give the casual fan and disengaged alumni across conference schools a reason to come out. Build a unique culture. It worked for the Big East.