(09-16-2018 09:22 AM)ShockerBob Wrote:  SMU+East Carolina+Memphis salivating at what they saw yesterday

Applewhite and Co on the road are very schizophrenic

I know Memphis is, at least. Also...WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN, MAN?!?!? We missed ya.

(09-15-2018 10:42 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-15-2018 10:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-15-2018 08:40 PM)pesik Wrote:  this loss sucsk but i dont get the implosion
it was unlikely we'd have gone undefeated (though we all hoped)

a lot of good, king had 6tds, and is averaging 6tds a game (and has yet to play an fcs), (0 turnovers all season) will likely lead the nation. and that is with numerous dropped tds

our pass defense is pure trash (and will only get worse with davis lost for the season), luckily for us we wont play another pass first team all season with memphis transitioning to a run heavy offense. except if we meet ucf in the CCG, and that would mean we made it to the CCG ..

and this post game was the 1st time ive seen applewhite actual furious at the team publicly (he normally pretends everything is okay even after loses)..maybe this brings a fire under him

oh well, take the loss and move on

My issue is we were told last years conservative defensive philosophy was due to limitations in our secondary personnel. We were told we upgraded the DB’s significantly. Now I see the same philosophy and the same DB performance. I’m beginning to think the explanation is backwards. The DB’s appear subpar because the QB has 6-10 seconds to throw the ball. There are few DB’s in the nation that can closely stay with a decent receiver for more than 3-4 seconds. Eventually, the receiver will get open. It’s not the DB’s subpar play making the philosophy necessary—-it’s the philosophy making the DB play subpar. Give a QB all day and he will look like Tom Brady no matter who you have in coverage.

i was just explaining this in the coogfans, thats not how it works with the air raid
im just going to copy and paste

"there is misconception and misunderstanding of techs offense (the air raid)

everyone here is saying we didnt bring pressure…that we had to pressure the qb to stop the pass
the air raid is known as the “great equalizer” for the reason that it prevents pressure from reaching the qb

the ball is out of his hands before the pressure will ever reach…in the air raid its the opposite you have to take away the short pass,to get pressure (make him hold the ball longer)…all the short passes where there all game…he wasnt hitting long passes till the second half when our dline was tired, and had 300yds at that point…at a different point in the game he had 10 consecutive completions…

in a game vs tech it is completely based on your Dbs and LBs making the Qb have to think"

a team like tech is the perfect team to exploit us, our dline strength is meaningless in a quick strike dink and dink offense, and it attacks the weakest part of our defense the dbs

Thats what Case did vs Penn State. The Air Raid works on timing. Blitz and jam (doent even really need to be a good jam) throws the timing off on the Air Raid enough that is far less effective. The blitz also helps defend the Air Raid because it jacks up the expected passing/vison lanes. Sure---you'll get beat deep from time to time---so what? We gave up 9 TD's yesterday. Play an Air Raid team by giving the receivers a 10 yard cushion and a 3-4 man rush and your dead. It might take 10 plays for a TD ---or if you miss a few tackles---it may only take 5 plays.

Yesterday was going to be a score fest. It was never about shutitng out Tech or bend but dont break. It was about getting your defense off the field more than Tech. Tech gave up 49---but all they wanted to do was get off the field more than we did and maybe nab a turnover or two. Gibbs knows whats up.

(09-16-2018 09:22 AM)ShockerBob Wrote:  SMU+East Carolina+Memphis salivating at what they saw yesterday

Applewhite and Co on the road are very schizophrenic

Ehhh. Other than Memphis, none of those are as good as Tech. Memphis will score 70 against D'Onofiro and his velvety soft welcoming defense. It basically promises opposing QB's a nice cozy safe zone in the pocket and lays out a red carpet to the UH end zone. By Memphis, D'Onofrio's newest wrinkle will be an extra DB standing in the end zone ready to hand every receiver a fancy umbrella drink after they score.

(09-16-2018 12:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:22 AM)ShockerBob Wrote:  SMU+East Carolina+Memphis salivating at what they saw yesterday

Applewhite and Co on the road are very schizophrenic

Ehhh. Other than Memphis, none of those are as good as Tech. Memphis will score 70 against D'Onofiro and his velvety soft welcoming defense. It basically promises opposing QB's a nice cozy safe zone in the pocket and lays out a red carpet to the UH end zone. By Memphis, D'Onofrio's newest wrinkle will be an extra DB standing in the end zone ready to hand every receiver a fancy umbrella drink after they score.

as of now memphis passing isnt that great either..i watch the ga state game, he basically on threw the ball in the redzone, it was majority run, and played a no qb lineup a few times (and just snapped to the rb)

between 3rd and longs and the end of the navy game he didnt shine when it was an obvious passing situation and was often sacked ... he isnt anywhere near riley ferguson or paxton lynch yet

luckly for them, he has a full season to get there before he plays us

the only current team with the passing fire power (as of their team right now) to exploit us like tech is ucf....maybe usf

(09-16-2018 12:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 12:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:22 AM)ShockerBob Wrote:  SMU+East Carolina+Memphis salivating at what they saw yesterday

Applewhite and Co on the road are very schizophrenic

Ehhh. Other than Memphis, none of those are as good as Tech. Memphis will score 70 against D'Onofiro and his velvety soft welcoming defense. It basically promises opposing QB's a nice cozy safe zone in the pocket and lays out a red carpet to the UH end zone. By Memphis, D'Onofrio's newest wrinkle will be an extra DB standing in the end zone ready to hand every receiver a fancy umbrella drink after they score.

as of now memphis passing isnt that great either..i watch the ga state game, he basically on threw the ball in the redzone, it was majproty run, and olay a no qb lineup afew times (and just snapped to the rb)

between 3rd and longs and the end of the navy game he didnt shine when it was an obvious passing situation and was often sacked ... he isnt anywhere near riley ferguson or paxton lynch yet

luckly or them, he hasa full season to get there

the only current team with the passing fire power (as of their team right now) to exploit us like tech is ucf....maybe usf

Thats probably a bit misleading. Memphis isnt really a run team per se. They are an RPO team. They take the option thats open. Pick your poison.

We are essentially playing a soft cover 2 with 10 yard cushion and 3 to 4 man rush. Most teams call that set thier "prevent defense". lol....We run that crap the entire game!!!

Our defense is ranked #115 out of 129---just BEHIND Rice and just ahead of UTSA. Despite playing N Texas, Michigan, and TCU---SMU's defense is ranked ahead of the Houston defense. Just let that sink in for a moment.

how's everyone's liver? mine got a great workout Saturday

prepping me for our road affairs

(09-16-2018 01:30 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 12:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 12:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:22 AM)ShockerBob Wrote:  SMU+East Carolina+Memphis salivating at what they saw yesterday

Applewhite and Co on the road are very schizophrenic

Ehhh. Other than Memphis, none of those are as good as Tech. Memphis will score 70 against D'Onofiro and his velvety soft welcoming defense. It basically promises opposing QB's a nice cozy safe zone in the pocket and lays out a red carpet to the UH end zone. By Memphis, D'Onofrio's newest wrinkle will be an extra DB standing in the end zone ready to hand every receiver a fancy umbrella drink after they score.

as of now memphis passing isnt that great either..i watch the ga state game, he basically on threw the ball in the redzone, it was majproty run, and olay a no qb lineup afew times (and just snapped to the rb)

between 3rd and longs and the end of the navy game he didnt shine when it was an obvious passing situation and was often sacked ... he isnt anywhere near riley ferguson or paxton lynch yet

luckly or them, he hasa full season to get there

the only current team with the passing fire power (as of their team right now) to exploit us like tech is ucf....maybe usf

Thats probably a bit misleading. Memphis isnt really a run team per se. They are an RPO team. They take the option thats open. Pick your poison.

We are essentially playing a soft cover 2 with 10 yard cushion and 3 to 4 man rush. Most teams call that set thier "prevent defense". lol....We run that crap the entire game!!!

Our defense is ranked #115 out of 129---just BEHIND Rice and just ahead of UTSA. Despite playing N Texas, Michigan, and TCU---SMU's defense is ranked ahead of the Houston defense. Just let that sink in for a moment.

I mean I get the overall point of the post, but those arent great offenses.

(09-17-2018 07:34 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 01:30 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 12:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 12:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:22 AM)ShockerBob Wrote:  SMU+East Carolina+Memphis salivating at what they saw yesterday

Applewhite and Co on the road are very schizophrenic

Ehhh. Other than Memphis, none of those are as good as Tech. Memphis will score 70 against D'Onofiro and his velvety soft welcoming defense. It basically promises opposing QB's a nice cozy safe zone in the pocket and lays out a red carpet to the UH end zone. By Memphis, D'Onofrio's newest wrinkle will be an extra DB standing in the end zone ready to hand every receiver a fancy umbrella drink after they score.

as of now memphis passing isnt that great either..i watch the ga state game, he basically on threw the ball in the redzone, it was majproty run, and olay a no qb lineup afew times (and just snapped to the rb)

between 3rd and longs and the end of the navy game he didnt shine when it was an obvious passing situation and was often sacked ... he isnt anywhere near riley ferguson or paxton lynch yet

luckly or them, he hasa full season to get there

the only current team with the passing fire power (as of their team right now) to exploit us like tech is ucf....maybe usf

Thats probably a bit misleading. Memphis isnt really a run team per se. They are an RPO team. They take the option thats open. Pick your poison.

We are essentially playing a soft cover 2 with 10 yard cushion and 3 to 4 man rush. Most teams call that set thier "prevent defense". lol....We run that crap the entire game!!!

Our defense is ranked #115 out of 129---just BEHIND Rice and just ahead of UTSA. Despite playing N Texas, Michigan, and TCU---SMU's defense is ranked ahead of the Houston defense. Just let that sink in for a moment.

I mean I get the overall point of the post, but those arent great offenses.

N Texas has a pretty good offense. How about this point, the NCAA site hasn’t been updated yet from last weeks games. So, that 115th ranking was our defensive ranking BEFORE we played Texas Tech.

(09-17-2018 06:40 PM)ShockerBob Wrote:  how's everyone's liver? mine got a great workout Saturday

prepping me for our road affairs

My liver thinks this is one heck of a question

(09-17-2018 07:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-17-2018 07:34 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 01:30 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 12:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 12:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Ehhh. Other than Memphis, none of those are as good as Tech. Memphis will score 70 against D'Onofiro and his velvety soft welcoming defense. It basically promises opposing QB's a nice cozy safe zone in the pocket and lays out a red carpet to the UH end zone. By Memphis, D'Onofrio's newest wrinkle will be an extra DB standing in the end zone ready to hand every receiver a fancy umbrella drink after they score.

as of now memphis passing isnt that great either..i watch the ga state game, he basically on threw the ball in the redzone, it was majproty run, and olay a no qb lineup afew times (and just snapped to the rb)

between 3rd and longs and the end of the navy game he didnt shine when it was an obvious passing situation and was often sacked ... he isnt anywhere near riley ferguson or paxton lynch yet

luckly or them, he hasa full season to get there

the only current team with the passing fire power (as of their team right now) to exploit us like tech is ucf....maybe usf

Thats probably a bit misleading. Memphis isnt really a run team per se. They are an RPO team. They take the option thats open. Pick your poison.

We are essentially playing a soft cover 2 with 10 yard cushion and 3 to 4 man rush. Most teams call that set thier "prevent defense". lol....We run that crap the entire game!!!

Our defense is ranked #115 out of 129---just BEHIND Rice and just ahead of UTSA. Despite playing N Texas, Michigan, and TCU---SMU's defense is ranked ahead of the Houston defense. Just let that sink in for a moment.

I mean I get the overall point of the post, but those arent great offenses.

N Texas has a pretty good offense. How about this point, the NCAA site hasn’t been updated yet from last weeks games. So, that 115th ranking was our defensive ranking BEFORE we played Texas Tech.

I think we're all in agreeance that something has to change with defense. Does it make sense to fire the DC mid year?

Yes
Onofrio is stupid
There is defensive talent in the high school ranks , call em up being em in
Onofrio if he stays around any longer it will hurt our recruiting big time

(09-17-2018 08:40 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(09-17-2018 07:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-17-2018 07:34 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 01:30 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 12:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  as of now memphis passing isnt that great either..i watch the ga state game, he basically on threw the ball in the redzone, it was majproty run, and olay a no qb lineup afew times (and just snapped to the rb)

between 3rd and longs and the end of the navy game he didnt shine when it was an obvious passing situation and was often sacked ... he isnt anywhere near riley ferguson or paxton lynch yet

luckly or them, he hasa full season to get there

the only current team with the passing fire power (as of their team right now) to exploit us like tech is ucf....maybe usf

Thats probably a bit misleading. Memphis isnt really a run team per se. They are an RPO team. They take the option thats open. Pick your poison.

We are essentially playing a soft cover 2 with 10 yard cushion and 3 to 4 man rush. Most teams call that set thier "prevent defense". lol....We run that crap the entire game!!!

Our defense is ranked #115 out of 129---just BEHIND Rice and just ahead of UTSA. Despite playing N Texas, Michigan, and TCU---SMU's defense is ranked ahead of the Houston defense. Just let that sink in for a moment.

I mean I get the overall point of the post, but those arent great offenses.

N Texas has a pretty good offense. How about this point, the NCAA site hasn’t been updated yet from last weeks games. So, that 115th ranking was our defensive ranking BEFORE we played Texas Tech.

I think we're all in agreeance that something has to change with defense. Does it make sense to fire the DC mid year?

Usually it’s a reassignment like the LB coach becomes the co-DC or the DC becomes the assistant HC.

Why I hate Coach Don'tKnow in 06:

https://twitter.com/Joseph_Duarte/status...9490736129

We have arguably the best d-lineman in cfb, a 5* prototypical 4-3 DT. Coach D'oh!!! feels that the proper use for this once in a generation player is as a NT in a passive "bend and then break" 3-4, thereby assuring Oliver is double or triple teamed on every snap.

(09-15-2018 10:42 PM)pesik Wrote:  i was just explaining this in the coogfans, thats not how it works with the air raid
im just going to copy and paste

"there is misconception and misunderstanding of techs offense (the air raid)

everyone here is saying we didnt bring pressure…that we had to pressure the qb to stop the pass
the air raid is known as the “great equalizer” for the reason that it prevents pressure from reaching the qb

the ball is out of his hands before the pressure will ever reach…in the air raid its the opposite you have to take away the short pass,to get pressure (make him hold the ball longer)…all the short passes where there all game…he wasnt hitting long passes till the second half when our dline was tired, and had 300yds at that point…at a different point in the game he had 10 consecutive completions…

in a game vs tech it is completely based on your Dbs and LBs making the Qb have to think"

a team like tech is the perfect team to exploit us, our dline strength is meaningless in a quick strike dink and dink offense, and it attacks the weakest part of our defense the dbs

You're ignoring a key part of the equation - we were facing a kid making only his second collegiate start. Bowman was in high school this time last year. Throw every conceivable blitz at him. Hit him, then hit him again, then hit him some more, and keep hitting him until he starts getting rid of the ball a beat early because he doesn't want to get hit anymore. Force the other team to make sight adjustments and quick decisions on the fly. Disrupt their timing. Above all, DON'T LET THEM DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

(09-17-2018 08:40 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(09-17-2018 07:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-17-2018 07:34 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 01:30 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 12:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  as of now memphis passing isnt that great either..i watch the ga state game, he basically on threw the ball in the redzone, it was majproty run, and olay a no qb lineup afew times (and just snapped to the rb)

between 3rd and longs and the end of the navy game he didnt shine when it was an obvious passing situation and was often sacked ... he isnt anywhere near riley ferguson or paxton lynch yet

luckly or them, he hasa full season to get there

the only current team with the passing fire power (as of their team right now) to exploit us like tech is ucf....maybe usf

Thats probably a bit misleading. Memphis isnt really a run team per se. They are an RPO team. They take the option thats open. Pick your poison.

We are essentially playing a soft cover 2 with 10 yard cushion and 3 to 4 man rush. Most teams call that set thier "prevent defense". lol....We run that crap the entire game!!!

Our defense is ranked #115 out of 129---just BEHIND Rice and just ahead of UTSA. Despite playing N Texas, Michigan, and TCU---SMU's defense is ranked ahead of the Houston defense. Just let that sink in for a moment.

I mean I get the overall point of the post, but those arent great offenses.

N Texas has a pretty good offense. How about this point, the NCAA site hasn’t been updated yet from last weeks games. So, that 115th ranking was our defensive ranking BEFORE we played Texas Tech.

I think we're all in agreeance that something has to change with defense. Does it make sense to fire the DC mid year?

No. Probably about the most that can be done now is for Major to demand a more aggressive defense and a change in blitz schemes. Trash the delayed blitz that starts near the concession stand. Major will need to reevaluate at the seasons end as to if he wants to hitch his career to a guy that basically ended Al Goldens head coaching career.

From yesterdays Chronicle---

Against Texas Tech, the Cougars had a whopping 18 missed tackles that led to nearly 200 yards after contact. Tech had nine completions that covered at least 20 yards, including plays that went for 54, 58 and 57 yards. The 704 yards were the third-most allowed in school history and the 63 points tied for the fifth-most.

Applewhite said the missed tackles came down to technique, which will be stressed in practice this week, and could lead to some personnel and scheme changes.

(09-18-2018 10:58 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-17-2018 08:40 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(09-17-2018 07:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-17-2018 07:34 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 01:30 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Thats probably a bit misleading. Memphis isnt really a run team per se. They are an RPO team. They take the option thats open. Pick your poison.

We are essentially playing a soft cover 2 with 10 yard cushion and 3 to 4 man rush. Most teams call that set thier "prevent defense". lol....We run that crap the entire game!!!

Our defense is ranked #115 out of 129---just BEHIND Rice and just ahead of UTSA. Despite playing N Texas, Michigan, and TCU---SMU's defense is ranked ahead of the Houston defense. Just let that sink in for a moment.

I mean I get the overall point of the post, but those arent great offenses.

N Texas has a pretty good offense. How about this point, the NCAA site hasn’t been updated yet from last weeks games. So, that 115th ranking was our defensive ranking BEFORE we played Texas Tech.

I think we're all in agreeance that something has to change with defense. Does it make sense to fire the DC mid year?

No. Probably about the most that can be done now is for Major to demand a more aggressive defense and a change in blitz schemes. Trash the delayed blitz that starts near the concession stand. Major will need to reevaluate at the seasons end as to if he wants to hitch his career to a guy that basically ended Al Goldens head coaching career.

From yesterdays Chronicle---

Against Texas Tech, the Cougars had a whopping 18 missed tackles that led to nearly 200 yards after contact. Tech had nine completions that covered at least 20 yards, including plays that went for 54, 58 and 57 yards. The 704 yards were the third-most allowed in school history and the 63 points tied for the fifth-most.

Applewhite said the missed tackles came down to technique, which will be stressed in practice this week, and could lead to some personnel and scheme changes.

You are most likely correct here and this is what applesnooz needs to do is sit down with Onofrio and change the defense like right now!!!
Concession stand blitz is putting it kindly but true