1 UCF (2-0) Uconn, SC St
2 USF (3-0) Elon, GA Tech, Illinois
3 N Texas (3-0) SMU, Incarnate Word, Arkansas
4 Cincy (3-0) UCLA, MI-OH, Alabama St
5 Akron (2-0) Morgan ST, Northwestern
6 Buffalo (3-0) Delta St, Temple, E Mich
7 Marshall (2-0) Miami-OH, E Kentucky
8 La Tech (2-0) Univ South Alabama, Southern
9 Fresno (2-1) Idaho, UCLA, (Minn)
10 Troy (2-1) FAMU, Nebraska, (Boise)

So this is the 1st week of having 1 loss teams in the top 10. There were a number of teams that could have slid into the #9 and #10 spots.

Boise beat Troy. Can't rank Troy ahead of Boise.

USF is in the driver's seat--no one else has 2 P5 wins. The spot also belongs to Cincy or UCF if they run the table. An AAC West team could get the access spot of they can stay blemish free the rest of the way, win the title game, and get help from elsewhere in the G5.

For a MWC team to get the slot, all other G5 champs need losses.

The MAC undefeated teams Buffalo and Akron, and C-USA's UNT, LA Tech, and Marshall are going to need to run the table and see all the AAC teams falter.

The SBC is a non factor because every team has a loss.

A shame Nebraska and Akron couldn't have made the week 1 game work. Akron will probably beat Iowa State next week.

(09-16-2018 07:24 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  Boise beat Troy. Can't rank Troy ahead of Boise.

Yeah, I thought hard on that one. The reason I ended up going with Troy over Boise in that spot was based on Troy having a P5 win, and Boise not having one
*Edit*
The more I think about it, the more I realize that I should have put San Diego St in the top 10 over Fresno or Troy.

(09-16-2018 07:38 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  USF is in the driver's seat--no one else has 2 P5 wins. The spot also belongs to Cincy or UCF if they run the table. An AAC West team could get the access spot of they can stay blemish free the rest of the way, win the title game, and get help from elsewhere in the G5.

For a MWC team to get the slot, all other G5 champs need losses.

The MAC undefeated teams Buffalo and Akron, and C-USA's UNT, LA Tech, and Marshall are going to need to run the table and see all the AAC teams falter.

The SBC is a non factor because every team has a loss.

But if La Tech runs the table, there should be no question with road games at LSU and MSU, as well as a road game at North Texas. If Tech runs the table (which they probably won't), they will get it easily.

UCF is in the drivers seat until they lose

There is a lot to sort out yet. None of the top ten has a big win. There have been P5 wins, but none have been against good teams. I still think UH, Memphis and Boise are not out of this yet.


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(09-16-2018 08:13 AM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  A shame Nebraska and Akron couldn't have made the week 1 game work. Akron will probably beat Iowa State next week.

Iowa State beat Akron last year, 41-17.

Right now, Akron's passing defense is going to need to rely on forcing turnovers and keeping Iowa State's QB from unloading big passes.

If we ignore these facts, it is amazing that 'Akron' and 'probably beat' are being used in 2018.

Access bowl contender?

(09-16-2018 07:38 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  USF is in the driver's seat--no one else has 2 P5 wins. The spot also belongs to Cincy or UCF if they run the table. An AAC West team could get the access spot of they can stay blemish free the rest of the way, win the title game, and get help from elsewhere in the G5.

For a MWC team to get the slot, all other G5 champs need losses.

The MAC undefeated teams Buffalo and Akron, and C-USA's UNT, LA Tech, and Marshall are going to need to run the table and see all the AAC teams falter.

The SBC is a non factor because every team has a loss.

I can't help but wonder if Houston could be dinged at all with Hawaii defeating both of their mutual opponents (Rice, Navy) regardless of how the Bows do.

(09-16-2018 09:30 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  UCF is in the drivers seat until they lose

Agreed. None of the teams in G5 conferences have a win over a P5 team that carries enough weight to overcome UCF's reputation carryover from last season.

BYU's win over Wisconsin is by far the best non-P5 win over a P5 team, and might end up being the only such win over a P5 team that will play in a bowl this year, but of course the G5 conferences blocked BYU from being eligible for the "access bowl" spot.

(09-16-2018 04:33 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:30 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  UCF is in the drivers seat until they lose

Agreed. None of the teams in G5 conferences have a win over a P5 team that carries enough weight to overcome UCF's reputation carryover from last season.

BYU's win over Wisconsin is by far the best non-P5 win over a P5 team, and might end up being the only such win over a P5 team that will play in a bowl this year, but of course the G5 conferences blocked BYU from being eligible for the "access bowl" spot.

If BYU wins out, why can't they get an at large spot?

G5 in the Polls

Votes in Both Polls
1. UCF
2. Boise
3. USF
4. SDSU
5. No Texas

Votes in Coaches' Poll
6. App St
7. Cincy
8. Troy
9. Houston
10. Ark St
11. Fresno St

(09-16-2018 04:57 PM)otown Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 04:33 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:30 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  UCF is in the drivers seat until they lose

Agreed. None of the teams in G5 conferences have a win over a P5 team that carries enough weight to overcome UCF's reputation carryover from last season.

BYU's win over Wisconsin is by far the best non-P5 win over a P5 team, and might end up being the only such win over a P5 team that will play in a bowl this year, but of course the G5 conferences blocked BYU from being eligible for the "access bowl" spot.

If BYU wins out, why can't they get an at large spot?

Because they went Indy, spot is for conference winner if BYU wants in get in a conference.


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(09-16-2018 04:57 PM)otown Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 04:33 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:30 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  UCF is in the drivers seat until they lose

Agreed. None of the teams in G5 conferences have a win over a P5 team that carries enough weight to overcome UCF's reputation carryover from last season.

BYU's win over Wisconsin is by far the best non-P5 win over a P5 team, and might end up being the only such win over a P5 team that will play in a bowl this year, but of course the G5 conferences blocked BYU from being eligible for the "access bowl" spot.

If BYU wins out, why can't they get an at large spot?

The point is that BYU shouldn't be limited to that. BYU, NMSU, Army, and UMass (and Liberty after they complete their transition) should be eligible to be chosen for the "access" spot in a CFP bowl game. It should be a "non-P5" place in a CFP bowl, not just something for G5 conference members.

(09-16-2018 06:07 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 04:57 PM)otown Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 04:33 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:30 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  UCF is in the drivers seat until they lose

Agreed. None of the teams in G5 conferences have a win over a P5 team that carries enough weight to overcome UCF's reputation carryover from last season.

BYU's win over Wisconsin is by far the best non-P5 win over a P5 team, and might end up being the only such win over a P5 team that will play in a bowl this year, but of course the G5 conferences blocked BYU from being eligible for the "access bowl" spot.

If BYU wins out, why can't they get an at large spot?

The point is that BYU shouldn't be limited to that. BYU, NMSU, Army, and UMass (and Liberty after they complete their transition) should be eligible to be chosen for the "access" spot in a CFP bowl game. It should be a "non-P5" place in a CFP bowl, not just something for G5 conference members.

But that's what they agreed to....right? Just like the P5 argument why an undefeated UCF doesn't just miss the playoffs, but gets left off the roster by a mile...... because the G5 agreed to this system? Right?

(09-16-2018 06:53 PM)otown Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 06:07 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 04:57 PM)otown Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 04:33 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:30 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  UCF is in the drivers seat until they lose

Agreed. None of the teams in G5 conferences have a win over a P5 team that carries enough weight to overcome UCF's reputation carryover from last season.

BYU's win over Wisconsin is by far the best non-P5 win over a P5 team, and might end up being the only such win over a P5 team that will play in a bowl this year, but of course the G5 conferences blocked BYU from being eligible for the "access bowl" spot.

If BYU wins out, why can't they get an at large spot?

The point is that BYU shouldn't be limited to that. BYU, NMSU, Army, and UMass (and Liberty after they complete their transition) should be eligible to be chosen for the "access" spot in a CFP bowl game. It should be a "non-P5" place in a CFP bowl, not just something for G5 conference members.

But that's what they agreed to....right? Just like the P5 argument why an undefeated UCF doesn't just miss the playoffs, but gets left off the roster by a mile...... because the G5 agreed to this system? Right?

The indy teams didn't agree to anything.

Also, even if you're enraged at the big boys for not turning the bowl games into a March Madness-style tournament, it doesn't make sense to direct that rage at BYU, NMSU, Army, and UMass.

If BYU wants the G5 access bid, then join a conference. No one forced them to go Indy. That goes for the rest of Indies too, except ND. BYU wins one game and they think the rules should be changed. Go join the AAC you all deserve each other.


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(09-16-2018 08:27 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  If BYU wants the G5 access bid, then join a conference. No one forced them to go Indy. That goes for the rest of Indies too, except ND. BYU wins one game and they think the rules should be changed.

This.

(09-16-2018 08:50 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 08:27 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  If BYU wants the G5 access bid, then join a conference. No one forced them to go Indy. That goes for the rest of Indies too, except ND. BYU wins one game and they think the rules should be changed.

This.

x2.

Setting aside Notre Dame the CFP and NY6 bowls are the product of an agreement between conferences and so serve the interests of conferences. That's a fact of life. Indies who want better access need to join a conference.

In BYU's case there's at least one conference and probably two that would accept them as a member in a heartbeat. That puts them in a heck of lot better position than Liberty, UMass or NMSU. At least they have a choice.