I think ESPN would love to have more FCS schools up at the FBS level. They could show those 12th game on the Championship weekend. They could be for FBS schools who could not makeup a game could work with those call ups for both teams to play on that day. Give more games onESPN, plus you could easily work in the schedule. ECU Vs James Madison as a replacement game could work. I do not think fBS could work to have an FCS team on that day when they are 5-6 and already have a win against another FCS team. Bringing up more teams to FBS could work for scheduling issues just in case of games being canceled by hurricanes. There are plenty FCS schools that do support FBS with their stadium size. Would like to see UNC play at the Fargo Dome as an away game when Hurricane Florence hit. I think ACC, AAC, and SEC schools could actually play games away from the coast just in case of hurricanes. Tennessee State would be a perfect away game just in case because they play in a pro-football stadium. These schools could be rewarded this way, and they could get a waiver to fill in bowls. I think fans would rather see a 12-0 NDSU over a 5-7 San Jose State team in bowl games as a replacement as an award.

Arizona State went 6-6 when they asked the NCAA for a waiver. The problem was that 2of their wins came against Northern Arizona and Weber State. If one of those schools were FBS? They would have gone to the bowl game that year. As it is right now, Big Sky, CAA, MVFC, OVC, Southern, Southland, a couple of MEAC schools and schools like Kennesaw State and North Alabama could help out. Not sure if all schools could be able to, but the majority of what I listed could be strong FBS opponent. These teams could be the in-betweeners of FCS and FBS.

I'm not sure I really understand your proposal. Is it just that the NCAA should give a blanket waiver this year for FBS teams affected by the storm to count a second FCS win toward bowl eligibility?

As I understand it, I expect many of the cancelled games to get made up. South Carolina/Marshall, for instance, will likely get played December 1 as long as neither team is in their championship game. The teams that will be most hurt will be UCF, VA Tech, and West Virginia, as they are likely to be in a championship game and thus could miss out on potential resume boosting wins.

(09-17-2018 06:09 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think ESPN would love to have more FCS schools up at the FBS level. They could show those 12th game on the Championship weekend. They could be for FBS schools who could not makeup a game could work with those call ups for both teams to play on that day. Give more games onESPN, plus you could easily work in the schedule. ECU Vs James Madison as a replacement game could work. I do not think fBS could work to have an FCS team on that day when they are 5-6 and already have a win against another FCS team. Bringing up more teams to FBS could work for scheduling issues just in case of games being canceled by hurricanes. There are plenty FCS schools that do support FBS with their stadium size. Would like to see UNC play at the Fargo Dome as an away game when Hurricane Florence hit. I think ACC, AAC, and SEC schools could actually play games away from the coast just in case of hurricanes. Tennessee State would be a perfect away game just in case because they play in a pro-football stadium. These schools could be rewarded this way, and they could get a waiver to fill in bowls. I think fans would rather see a 12-0 NDSU over a 5-7 San Jose State team in bowl games as a replacement as an award.

Arizona State went 6-6 when they asked the NCAA for a waiver. The problem was that 2of their wins came against Northern Arizona and Weber State. If one of those schools were FBS? They would have gone to the bowl game that year. As it is right now, Big Sky, CAA, MVFC, OVC, Southern, Southland, a couple of MEAC schools and schools like Kennesaw State and North Alabama could help out. Not sure if all schools could be able to, but the majority of what I listed could be strong FBS opponent. These teams could be the in-betweeners of FCS and FBS.

(09-17-2018 08:26 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  I'm not sure I really understand your proposal. Is it just that the NCAA should give a blanket waiver this year for FBS teams affected by the storm to count a second FCS win toward bowl eligibility?

As I understand it, I expect many of the cancelled games to get made up. South Carolina/Marshall, for instance, will likely get played December 1 as long as neither team is in their championship game. The teams that will be most hurt will be UCF, VA Tech, and West Virginia, as they are likely to be in a championship game and thus could miss out on potential resume boosting wins.

The problem is if one of the schools that get effected by hurricanes go 5-6, and one of their opponents can't make up the game, but that FBS school needs a 6th game as a replacement. If no other FBS school available because they made up a game, and got a replace? Then the 12th game with an FCS opponent as to make the FBS school get a 6th win for that FBS school to be bowl eligible. UTSA last year was robbed of a game with Houston that was never made up. UTSA could play a school like Lamar to become 7-5. As it is in FCS? There are 2 levels there as well. MVFC is the FCS version of the SEC conference. MVFC is actually better football conference over MAC, SBC, AAC west and MWC west. That FCS conference gets more respect that they are treated that way.

(09-17-2018 12:17 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-17-2018 08:26 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  I'm not sure I really understand your proposal. Is it just that the NCAA should give a blanket waiver this year for FBS teams affected by the storm to count a second FCS win toward bowl eligibility?

As I understand it, I expect many of the cancelled games to get made up. South Carolina/Marshall, for instance, will likely get played December 1 as long as neither team is in their championship game. The teams that will be most hurt will be UCF, VA Tech, and West Virginia, as they are likely to be in a championship game and thus could miss out on potential resume boosting wins.

The problem is if one of the schools that get effected by hurricanes go 5-6, and one of their opponents can't make up the game, but that FBS school needs a 6th game as a replacement. If no other FBS school available because they made up a game, and got a replace? Then the 12th game with an FCS opponent as to make the FBS school get a 6th win for that FBS school to be bowl eligible. UTSA last year was robbed of a game with Houston that was never made up. UTSA could play a school like Lamar to become 7-5. As it is in FCS? There are 2 levels there as well. MVFC is the FCS version of the SEC conference. MVFC is actually better football conference over MAC, SBC, AAC west and MWC west. That FCS conference gets more respect that they are treated that way.

MVFC has never been "better" than either division of the AAC since its present composition in 2015.

Using Sagarin (because he does rank all the conferences divisions...happy to entertain other ranking systems)...
thus far in the 2018 season, MVFC is ahead of only MAC East (but not MAC West), and SBC West (but not SBC East) and CUSA. Behind AAC and mwc.
In 2015, MVFC was behind AAC, mwc, and MAC West (and although was ahead of MAC East, looks like combined MAC ahead of MVFC).
In 2016, MVFC was behind AAC, SunBelt, mwc Mountain (and mwc combined even though ahead of mwc West), and MAC West (and MAC combined even though ahead of MAC East).
In 2017, MVFC was behind AAC, period. Was behind mwc Mountain and combined mwc. Was behind MAC West and edged combined MAC by decimal dust.

(09-17-2018 12:17 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-17-2018 08:26 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  I'm not sure I really understand your proposal. Is it just that the NCAA should give a blanket waiver this year for FBS teams affected by the storm to count a second FCS win toward bowl eligibility?

As I understand it, I expect many of the cancelled games to get made up. South Carolina/Marshall, for instance, will likely get played December 1 as long as neither team is in their championship game. The teams that will be most hurt will be UCF, VA Tech, and West Virginia, as they are likely to be in a championship game and thus could miss out on potential resume boosting wins.

The problem is if one of the schools that get effected by hurricanes go 5-6, and one of their opponents can't make up the game, but that FBS school needs a 6th game as a replacement. If no other FBS school available because they made up a game, and got a replace? Then the 12th game with an FCS opponent as to make the FBS school get a 6th win for that FBS school to be bowl eligible. UTSA last year was robbed of a game with Houston that was never made up. UTSA could play a school like Lamar to become 7-5. As it is in FCS? There are 2 levels there as well. MVFC is the FCS version of the SEC conference. MVFC is actually better football conference over MAC, SBC, AAC west and MWC west. That FCS conference gets more respect that they are treated that way.

I certainly agree that waivers should be granted for games cancelled by weather.

If all these FBS schools need games, why don't they play each other instead of FCS? This is like trying to solve a problem when there isn't one.

(09-17-2018 06:09 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think ESPN would love to have more FCS schools up at the FBS level. They could show those 12th game on the Championship weekend. They could be for FBS schools who could not makeup a game could work with those call ups for both teams to play on that day. Give more games onESPN, plus you could easily work in the schedule. ECU Vs James Madison as a replacement game could work. I do not think fBS could work to have an FCS team on that day when they are 5-6 and already have a win against another FCS team. Bringing up more teams to FBS could work for scheduling issues just in case of games being canceled by hurricanes. There are plenty FCS schools that do support FBS with their stadium size. Would like to see UNC play at the Fargo Dome as an away game when Hurricane Florence hit. I think ACC, AAC, and SEC schools could actually play games away from the coast just in case of hurricanes. Tennessee State would be a perfect away game just in case because they play in a pro-football stadium. These schools could be rewarded this way, and they could get a waiver to fill in bowls. I think fans would rather see a 12-0 NDSU over a 5-7 San Jose State team in bowl games as a replacement as an award.

Arizona State went 6-6 when they asked the NCAA for a waiver. The problem was that 2of their wins came against Northern Arizona and Weber State. If one of those schools were FBS? They would have gone to the bowl game that year. As it is right now, Big Sky, CAA, MVFC, OVC, Southern, Southland, a couple of MEAC schools and schools like Kennesaw State and North Alabama could help out. Not sure if all schools could be able to, but the majority of what I listed could be strong FBS opponent. These teams could be the in-betweeners of FCS and FBS.

On Championship Weekend, the better FCS teams are competing in their playoffs. As for having it lead to playing in a potential bowl game, I personally prefer the playoffs, it might not be as high profile as a bowl game, but it leads to a National Championship that is sponsored by the NCAA.

(09-17-2018 06:37 PM)GoBison Wrote:  

(09-17-2018 06:09 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think ESPN would love to have more FCS schools up at the FBS level. They could show those 12th game on the Championship weekend. They could be for FBS schools who could not makeup a game could work with those call ups for both teams to play on that day. Give more games onESPN, plus you could easily work in the schedule. ECU Vs James Madison as a replacement game could work. I do not think fBS could work to have an FCS team on that day when they are 5-6 and already have a win against another FCS team. Bringing up more teams to FBS could work for scheduling issues just in case of games being canceled by hurricanes. There are plenty FCS schools that do support FBS with their stadium size. Would like to see UNC play at the Fargo Dome as an away game when Hurricane Florence hit. I think ACC, AAC, and SEC schools could actually play games away from the coast just in case of hurricanes. Tennessee State would be a perfect away game just in case because they play in a pro-football stadium. These schools could be rewarded this way, and they could get a waiver to fill in bowls. I think fans would rather see a 12-0 NDSU over a 5-7 San Jose State team in bowl games as a replacement as an award.

Arizona State went 6-6 when they asked the NCAA for a waiver. The problem was that 2of their wins came against Northern Arizona and Weber State. If one of those schools were FBS? They would have gone to the bowl game that year. As it is right now, Big Sky, CAA, MVFC, OVC, Southern, Southland, a couple of MEAC schools and schools like Kennesaw State and North Alabama could help out. Not sure if all schools could be able to, but the majority of what I listed could be strong FBS opponent. These teams could be the in-betweeners of FCS and FBS.

On Championship Weekend, the better FCS teams are competing in their playoffs. As for having it lead to playing in a potential bowl game, I personally prefer the playoffs, it might not be as high profile as a bowl game, but it leads to a National Championship that is sponsored by the NCAA.

HDSU are the media darlings, and could sneak in to grab the access bowl if they go undefeated.

ESPN barely even considers FCS to be D-1. I was watching the MNF pregame show last night and something about Willie Taggart and FSU being 0-2 vs D1 competition went by on the ticker, even though they have beat a FCS team.....

(09-18-2018 09:44 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  ESPN barely even considers FCS to be D-1. I was watching the MNF pregame show last night and something about Willie Taggart and FSU being 0-2 vs D1 competition went by on the ticker, even though they have beat a FCS team.....

The problem is that FSU are too chicken to face North Dakota State. FSU love their cupcakes.

(09-18-2018 02:26 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 09:44 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  ESPN barely even considers FCS to be D-1. I was watching the MNF pregame show last night and something about Willie Taggart and FSU being 0-2 vs D1 competition went by on the ticker, even though they have beat a FCS team.....

The problem is that FSU are too chicken to face North Dakota State. FSU love their cupcakes.

NDSU playing Florida State makes zero sense. You want an FCS team to be able to bus to your FBS game in order to maximize revenue on it.

(09-18-2018 02:26 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 09:44 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  ESPN barely even considers FCS to be D-1. I was watching the MNF pregame show last night and something about Willie Taggart and FSU being 0-2 vs D1 competition went by on the ticker, even though they have beat a FCS team.....

The problem is that FSU are too chicken to face North Dakota State. FSU love their cupcakes.

You're right and them and most other FBS schools are smart to do so. It makes no sense for anyone to play NDSU, it's a lose lose situation.

But that's besides the point I made.....

(09-18-2018 02:26 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 09:44 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  ESPN barely even considers FCS to be D-1. I was watching the MNF pregame show last night and something about Willie Taggart and FSU being 0-2 vs D1 competition went by on the ticker, even though they have beat a FCS team.....

The problem is that FSU are too chicken to face North Dakota State. FSU love their cupcakes.

Why pay for NDSU or whoever to fly in when there are plenty of instate or local teams that can bus in and FSU can throw a bone to?

South Carolina for example almost exclusively plays instate teams, although this year is a bit of an exception with UT Chattanooga