(09-26-2018 12:58 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:52 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:45 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  You need actual CREDIBLE charges, not vague, purposely unprovable stuff from 40 years ago when he was a teenager.

The current accusations and attacks lack credibility and are clearly political in nature.

Multiple women reporting either being victims of him, or seeing incidents involving him at different times through HS & college that follows the same track of behavior qualifies as credible, period. You have to check it out.

ANYONE can make an accusation from 40 years ago. And in this current political climate, anyone will do just that.

The accusations have to have some actual facts and credibility.

So far we have NONE of that. These accusations are all purposely vauge and virtually unprovable.

1000 uncredible accusations do not equal 1 single credible accusation.

And Kavanaugh can deny and dismiss them all as well..doesn't make him credible either.

(09-26-2018 12:54 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:52 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:45 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:34 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:16 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  The MSM has already proclaimed Kavanaugh's guilt. NBC nightly reporter, Peter Alexander, was on some news show and he said that even if Kavanaugh is confirmed, he will always have an asterisk by his name. Journalism is absolutely dead in this country.

If it's not investigated & he gets pushed through regardless, then it SHOULD have an asterisk.

I would hope we've learned lessons from past politicians/SC justices to pay attention when these things are brought up, and not just wave them off as unimportant just because they may have happened when they were younger. This isn't "I stole from the candy store when I was a kid" type of stuff.

You need actual CREDIBLE charges, not vague, purposely unprovable stuff from 40 years ago when he was a teenager.

The current accusations and attacks lack credibility and are clearly political in nature.

Multiple women reporting either being victims of him, or seeing incidents involving him at different times through HS & college that follows the same track of behavior qualifies as credible, period. You have to check it out.

So who should do the investigating?

Who would normally do the investigating in a situation like this?

There is no statute of limitations in Maryland, so the police COULD if the accusers wanted to file a complaint.

(09-26-2018 12:40 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  Investigated by whom?

Are you aware of what an FBI background check consists of?

(09-26-2018 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:58 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:52 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:45 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  You need actual CREDIBLE charges, not vague, purposely unprovable stuff from 40 years ago when he was a teenager.

The current accusations and attacks lack credibility and are clearly political in nature.

Multiple women reporting either being victims of him, or seeing incidents involving him at different times through HS & college that follows the same track of behavior qualifies as credible, period. You have to check it out.

ANYONE can make an accusation from 40 years ago. And in this current political climate, anyone will do just that.

The accusations have to have some actual facts and credibility.

So far we have NONE of that. These accusations are all purposely vauge and virtually unprovable.

1000 uncredible accusations do not equal 1 single credible accusation.

And Kavanaugh can deny and dismiss them all as well..doesn't make him credible either.

If you believe in due process, the burden of proof is not on him.

(09-26-2018 01:01 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:58 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:52 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:45 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  You need actual CREDIBLE charges, not vague, purposely unprovable stuff from 40 years ago when he was a teenager.

The current accusations and attacks lack credibility and are clearly political in nature.

Multiple women reporting either being victims of him, or seeing incidents involving him at different times through HS & college that follows the same track of behavior qualifies as credible, period. You have to check it out.

ANYONE can make an accusation from 40 years ago.

The accusations have to have some actual facts and credibility.

So far we have NONE of that. These accusations are all purposely vauge and virtually unprovable.

1000 uncredible accusations do not equal 1 single credible accusation.

It does to the "guilty until proven innocent" crowd.

They have no shame and do not care who they destroy or under what circumstances.

Well, if this wasn't a farce before, there is no doubt it is a farce now. I would say I'm surprised the left would stoop this low; however, nothing surprises me at this point.

(09-26-2018 01:02 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:40 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  Investigated by whom?

Are you aware of what an FBI background check consists of?

I was just wanting tiger green to answer the question. He/she keeps saying there needs to be an investigation. There have been 6 FBI background checks conducted on Kavanaugh during his career. Biden has already stated that the FBI doesn't come to any conclusion in a confirmation hearing like this.

Grassley stated today that lawyers are contacting the latest accuser to get information. The prosecutor from Arizona who is an expert is coming in tomorrow to talk to Ford. What else should be done?

(09-26-2018 01:02 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:58 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:52 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:45 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  You need actual CREDIBLE charges, not vague, purposely unprovable stuff from 40 years ago when he was a teenager.

The current accusations and attacks lack credibility and are clearly political in nature.

Multiple women reporting either being victims of him, or seeing incidents involving him at different times through HS & college that follows the same track of behavior qualifies as credible, period. You have to check it out.

ANYONE can make an accusation from 40 years ago. And in this current political climate, anyone will do just that.

The accusations have to have some actual facts and credibility.

So far we have NONE of that. These accusations are all purposely vauge and virtually unprovable.

1000 uncredible accusations do not equal 1 single credible accusation.

And Kavanaugh can deny and dismiss them all as well..doesn't make him credible either.

If you believe in due process, the burden of proof is not on him.

Well, I don't believe this is a legal issue at this point, so not sure if due process even applies. But more importantly, this isn't a crime where you necessarily have any sort of proof other than witnesses...which this latest accuser says she has and Ford also claims that Judge is a witness. Shouldn't those folks be interviewed by the senate committee at least before they vote on a lifetime appointment?

Kavanaugh's Yearbook entry reminds me of Winston's case after he was accused of rape, standing on the table, yelling sexually explicit stuff about women. He claimed he did not do it. Same thing with Kavanaugh. I think he and Judge have done these things back then. There are hints more women are coming out soon.

(09-26-2018 12:50 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:47 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Misogyny 101. When a male comes out about sexual assault from a priest 30 years ago they are hailed as brave. When a woman comes out against sexual assault thirty years later we get ......... well just read the comments on here..... disgraceful....

You would sell your own mother out if it was politically expedient.

Why do you guys ALWAYS make it personal......

Are your wittle fweelings that hurt Ewic......

Misogynist know thy name.....

(09-26-2018 12:58 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:52 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:45 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  You need actual CREDIBLE charges, not vague, purposely unprovable stuff from 40 years ago when he was a teenager.

The current accusations and attacks lack credibility and are clearly political in nature.

Multiple women reporting either being victims of him, or seeing incidents involving him at different times through HS & college that follows the same track of behavior qualifies as credible, period. You have to check it out.

ANYONE can make an accusation from 40 years ago. And in this current political climate, anyone will do just that.

The accusations have to have some actual facts and credibility.

So far we have NONE of that. These accusations are all purposely vauge and virtually unprovable.

1000 uncredible accusations do not equal 1 single credible accusation.

How exactly are they PURPOSELY vague? Seems to me that given the nature of the situation (drunk people years ago), things would be vague regardless. All of these accusers have given some facts; you're just choosing to discount their credibility because it's not what you want to hear.

If multiple people come forward at different points in Kavanaugh's life with stories of the same type of behavior, that is credible enough to look into. Bill Cosby's accusers took a while to start coming out as well, if you remember.

(09-26-2018 01:02 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:58 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:52 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:45 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  You need actual CREDIBLE charges, not vague, purposely unprovable stuff from 40 years ago when he was a teenager.

The current accusations and attacks lack credibility and are clearly political in nature.

Multiple women reporting either being victims of him, or seeing incidents involving him at different times through HS & college that follows the same track of behavior qualifies as credible, period. You have to check it out.

ANYONE can make an accusation from 40 years ago. And in this current political climate, anyone will do just that.

The accusations have to have some actual facts and credibility.

So far we have NONE of that. These accusations are all purposely vauge and virtually unprovable.

1000 uncredible accusations do not equal 1 single credible accusation.

And Kavanaugh can deny and dismiss them all as well..doesn't make him credible either.

If you believe in due process, the burden of proof is not on him.

The burden of proof should never be on him. Expecially when the accusations are this vague and unprovable.

What a disgusting predicent that would set.

He's already been throughly vetted by the FBI and sitting on the court for years HE HAS CREDIBILTY.

These accusations have none at this point.

(09-26-2018 01:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 01:02 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:58 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:52 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  Multiple women reporting either being victims of him, or seeing incidents involving him at different times through HS & college that follows the same track of behavior qualifies as credible, period. You have to check it out.

ANYONE can make an accusation from 40 years ago. And in this current political climate, anyone will do just that.

The accusations have to have some actual facts and credibility.

So far we have NONE of that. These accusations are all purposely vauge and virtually unprovable.

1000 uncredible accusations do not equal 1 single credible accusation.

And Kavanaugh can deny and dismiss them all as well..doesn't make him credible either.

If you believe in due process, the burden of proof is not on him.

Well, I don't believe this is a legal issue at this point, so not sure if due process even applies. But more importantly, this isn't a crime where you necessarily have any sort of proof other than witnesses...which this latest accuser says she has and Ford also claims that Judge is a witness. Shouldn't those folks be interviewed by the senate committee at least before they vote on a lifetime appointment?

Actually, the first two accusers can't corroborate anything. Ford will have her day tomorrow, that is if she shows up.

(09-26-2018 01:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 01:02 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:58 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:52 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  Multiple women reporting either being victims of him, or seeing incidents involving him at different times through HS & college that follows the same track of behavior qualifies as credible, period. You have to check it out.

ANYONE can make an accusation from 40 years ago. And in this current political climate, anyone will do just that.

The accusations have to have some actual facts and credibility.

So far we have NONE of that. These accusations are all purposely vauge and virtually unprovable.

1000 uncredible accusations do not equal 1 single credible accusation.

And Kavanaugh can deny and dismiss them all as well..doesn't make him credible either.

If you believe in due process, the burden of proof is not on him.

Well, I don't believe this is a legal issue at this point, so not sure if due process even applies. But more importantly, this isn't a crime where you necessarily have any sort of proof other than witnesses...which this latest accuser says she has and Ford also claims that Judge is a witness. Shouldn't those folks be interviewed by the senate committee at least before they vote on a lifetime appointment?

I think some of the incidents happened in Maryland. I do not think that state have a statue of limit, and from what is being said, the 3rd accuser could go to the police there, and filed a report there thinking her case happened in that state. That means Judge and Kavanaugh would face a bunch of charges.

(09-26-2018 01:08 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 01:02 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:58 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:52 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  Multiple women reporting either being victims of him, or seeing incidents involving him at different times through HS & college that follows the same track of behavior qualifies as credible, period. You have to check it out.

ANYONE can make an accusation from 40 years ago. And in this current political climate, anyone will do just that.

The accusations have to have some actual facts and credibility.

So far we have NONE of that. These accusations are all purposely vauge and virtually unprovable.

1000 uncredible accusations do not equal 1 single credible accusation.

And Kavanaugh can deny and dismiss them all as well..doesn't make him credible either.

If you believe in due process, the burden of proof is not on him.

The burden of proof should never be on him. Expecially when the accusations are this vague and unprovable.

What a disgusting predicent that would set.

He's already been throughly vetted by the FBI and sitting on the court for years HE HAS CREDIBILTY.

These accusations have none at this point.

So let me get this straight. Any women who comes forward with a rape allegation against anyone, but has no evidence, automatically has no credibility?

If you honestly believe that, that's reprehensible. Not to mention, Exhibit A as to why women don't report!

(09-26-2018 01:06 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  Grassley stated today that lawyers are contacting the latest accuser to get information. The prosecutor from Arizona who is an expert is coming in tomorrow to talk to Ford. What else should be done?

All of this should be done - all of you want to discredit & discount these women before any of this is done.

If it comes out that they're all 100% fabricated, so be it. However, I find it hard to believe that given Kavanaugh's party boy image from those days, that some of it isn't true.

His buddy Mike Judge who has already talked about being blackout drunk & not knowing what he may have done, or to whom, is refusing to get involved. Wonder why that is? Surely not because he doesn't want to incriminate his friend?

(09-26-2018 01:08 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:58 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:52 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:45 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  You need actual CREDIBLE charges, not vague, purposely unprovable stuff from 40 years ago when he was a teenager.

The current accusations and attacks lack credibility and are clearly political in nature.

Multiple women reporting either being victims of him, or seeing incidents involving him at different times through HS & college that follows the same track of behavior qualifies as credible, period. You have to check it out.

ANYONE can make an accusation from 40 years ago. And in this current political climate, anyone will do just that.

The accusations have to have some actual facts and credibility.

So far we have NONE of that. These accusations are all purposely vauge and virtually unprovable.

1000 uncredible accusations do not equal 1 single credible accusation.

How exactly are they PURPOSELY vague? Seems to me that given the nature of the situation (drunk people years ago), things would be vague regardless. All of these accusers have given some facts; you're just choosing to discount their credibility because it's not what you want to hear.

If multiple people come forward at different points in Kavanaugh's life with stories of the same type of behavior, that is credible enough to look into. Bill Cosby's accusers took a while to start coming out as well, if you remember.

You would believe anything they say, no matter how absurd. Even accusations this vague and unprovable from 40 years ago when they are kids.

Its just a sad display all around.

People lack honesty and lack self-awareness. Their political views overtake all reason and fairness.

(09-26-2018 01:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 01:08 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 01:02 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 12:58 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  ANYONE can make an accusation from 40 years ago. And in this current political climate, anyone will do just that.

The accusations have to have some actual facts and credibility.

So far we have NONE of that. These accusations are all purposely vauge and virtually unprovable.

1000 uncredible accusations do not equal 1 single credible accusation.

And Kavanaugh can deny and dismiss them all as well..doesn't make him credible either.

If you believe in due process, the burden of proof is not on him.

The burden of proof should never be on him. Expecially when the accusations are this vague and unprovable.

What a disgusting predicent that would set.

He's already been throughly vetted by the FBI and sitting on the court for years HE HAS CREDIBILTY.

These accusations have none at this point.

So let me get this straight. Any women who comes forward with a rape allegation against anyone, but has no evidence, automatically has no credibility?

If you honestly believe that, that's reprehensible. Not to mention, Exhibit A as to why women don't report!

So let me get this straight. Any women who comes forward with a rape allegation against anyone, but has no evidence, automatically should be believed, even if it means destroying the accused?

If you honestly believe that, that's reprehensible.

Just change this womans name to Karen Monahan. The liberals will suddenly shut up and not give a damned.

(09-26-2018 01:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 01:08 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The burden of proof should never be on him. Expecially when the accusations are this vague and unprovable.

What a disgusting predicent that would set.

He's already been throughly vetted by the FBI and sitting on the court for years HE HAS CREDIBILTY.

These accusations have none at this point.

So let me get this straight. Any women who comes forward with a rape allegation against anyone, but has no evidence, automatically has no credibility?

If you honestly believe that, that's reprehensible. Not to mention, Exhibit A as to why women don't report!

Bingo. In these guy's minds, these women are just supposed to 'stay in their place,' far out of the eyes of anyone who might listen to their story.