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(09-28-2018 09:24 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  I assume this is the article

http://www.dailytarheel.com/article/2018...sacre-0927

If you are not from the South and you are not from North Carolina or lived in North Carolina prior to about 1985 you can have little to no frame of reference with which to understand. To read anything of real value you need a library pass for either State's, Duke's, or Carolina's library. You can't rely on the News and Observer from that period and you have to know where the black folks who survived moved to in order to read their story.


The DTH story while mostly factual, is totally lacking in the depth needed for anyone younger than 50 to understand and North Carolina history in general is not taught in our public schools regarding this period so unless you got it at Duke, UNC, NC State, WF, Davidson, ECU, Wilmington, Greensboro, A&T, or Central, you did not get it and even if you did you needed sociology and political science to begin to comprehend the period.


No one in academia wanted to talk about it for decades because just attempting an explanation makes you seem like an apologist.
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(09-28-2018 09:36 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(09-28-2018 09:00 PM)Statefan Wrote:  
(09-28-2018 08:17 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(09-28-2018 03:45 PM)Statefan Wrote:  
(09-28-2018 03:40 PM)XLance Wrote:  Miami is good, Carolina is not....we're growing impatient waiting for Fedora to be fired.

Getting rid of Fedora will not solve the underlying issues at UNC regarding football.


Have you read today's DTH? To me that is symptomatic of the larger growing issue related to culture and football. What was once a universally accepted sport and culture is losing certain niches.

Chapel Hill is being taken over by a bunch of folks that have been bred on revisionist history. I studied under Hugh Lefler and I guarantee he is turning in his grave.

I studied under Powell for history - what happened in Wilmington is factual and the News and Observer as the Democratic Party paper of record egged it on, covered it up, and a century later finally fessed up. Carolina has been whitewashing it's history since FPG demanded it be done.


Serious de-contextualization occurs because slaves built UNC and racists ran NC in the Jim Crow era from the 1890's through to the Depression. President Graham, President Friday, Governor Sanford, Governor Moore, and Dean Smith all wanted that part of NC's history buried. Part of that history is UNC so it's all intertwined. Kids going through primary and secondary school in NC today learn next to nothing about this period.


The blowback from 1898 continued with the Wilmington 10 through to 1970 until Jim Hunt finally commuted the sentence of the last one, IIRC.



The problem today is that you can't explain the difference between William Davie and Saunders or Kenan to today's kids. Most of them can't comprehend the difference between slave owner of the early 19th Century and the Jim Crow/Segregationist/Violent racist of the late 19th and early 20th Century.


It's like trying to explain the difference between a "creeper" and a "sexual harasser" to today's young people - they have no ability to differentiate between degrees. There is a faction at UNC that will keep pushing this as a response to the increasingly elite nature of the student body not taking into account that the same problem exists at Duke, WF, and State. It takes a crafty politician to paper over all this dissonance and there has not been a Chancellor capable of that since Hooker died and some of the BOG members and BOT members seem to excel at making it worse and digging a deeper hole.

Folt is just making the situation worse....she couldn't hold Michael Hooker's jock strap.
If Sam doesn't go back up, a lot of the pledges for the capital campaign will never be paid (that comes from the Chair of the BOT) and they will never get another penny out of me.

Sam needs to be contextualized with the other students who died in or near Memorial Hall. If it goes back in the same spot, with the same access, it will get worse and eventually someone will get hurt.
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