I only count teams with 2 or less loses.

AAC 5 teams.
UCF 5-0
USF 5-0
Cincinnati 6-0
Houston 5-1
Memphis 4-2

C-USA 7 teams:
UAB 4-1
North Texas 5-1
Middle Tennessee State 3-2
FIU 3-2
Marshall 3-2
Southern Mississippi 2-2
La. Tech 3-2

MAC 5 teams:
Buffalo 5-1
Western Michigan 4-2
Ohio U. 3-2
Toledo 3-2
Akron 2-2

MWC 6 Teams:
Hawaii 6-1
San Diego State 4-1
Utah State 4-1
Fresno State 4-1
Boise State 3-2
New Mexico 3-2

SBC 5 teams:
Troy 5-1
Georgia Southern 4-1
Appalachian State 3-1
Coastal Carolina 3-2
Arkansas State 3-2

Independent 1:
Army 3-2

15 teams could be eliminated next week with their 3rd loss. Stranger things can happened when Boise State took the NY6 bowl away from Marshall when Boise had 2 losses while Marshall had 1 loss.

It’s the AAC or bust.

The best SBC, CUSA, etc., teams are at best 4th best in the AAC.

Boise's loss yesterday all but eliminated them from NY6 bowl contention.

I wouldn’t sleep on App St. Their only two potential hiccups left are Troy and Georgia Southern.

so cute morons who think Boise still has any shot. And yes, they are morons.

(10-07-2018 03:09 PM)stever20 Wrote:  so cute morons who think Boise still has any shot. And yes, they are morons.

Remember, Boise had 2 losses before, and still got a NY 6 Bowl before. And they won their NY 6 Bowl that year over a PAC 12 team.

The premise behind DavidSt’s original post is completely flawed. Only conference champions matter for the Group of 5 slot. This of course rules out independents like Army or BYU.

If by some disaster scenario there are five confercne champions at 8-5, one of those has to be the G5 representative in the New Year’s Six.

(10-07-2018 02:51 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It’s the AAC or bust.

The best SBC, CUSA, etc., teams are at best 4th best in the AAC.

I've seen enough App State, USF, and Cincinnati this season to know the SBC's best might be 2nd in the AAC.

Remember when Rypien was hyped as the next Kellen Moore?

(10-07-2018 03:20 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-07-2018 03:09 PM)stever20 Wrote:  so cute morons who think Boise still has any shot. And yes, they are morons.

Remember, Boise had 2 losses before, and still got a NY 6 Bowl before. And they won their NY 6 Bowl that year over a PAC 12 team.

No AAC teams have the putrid schedule that Marshall had..... Sorry but you can stick a fork in Boise, they are 100% done.

(10-07-2018 02:51 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It’s the AAC or bust.

The best SBC, CUSA, etc., teams are at best 4th best in the AAC.

1000% This ^^^

(10-07-2018 03:36 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(10-07-2018 03:20 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-07-2018 03:09 PM)stever20 Wrote:  so cute morons who think Boise still has any shot. And yes, they are morons.

Remember, Boise had 2 losses before, and still got a NY 6 Bowl before. And they won their NY 6 Bowl that year over a PAC 12 team.

No AAC teams have the putrid schedule that Marshall had..... Sorry but you can stick a fork in Boise, they are 100% done.

Especially when 3 AAC schools are still undefeated.

Fair or not, and the MWC certainly has had its moments against the AAC this year, the NY6 game is now entirely in the hands of the AAC, there is a 95% chance at least that an AAC team goes to the Access Bowl.

That's just the way it is.

I don't often defend DavidSt, but today's the day.

For a list like this, you want to be over-inclusive. And at this point in the season, you still include the two-loss teams. People are trashing Boise State's inclusion, but nobody's objecting to including the rest of the 2-loss teams, whose Access Bowl dreams are at least as remote as Boise's at this point. Sure, there's a 99% chance the 2018 Access Bowl team has 1 loss or fewer right now, but 99% is not 100%.

Towards the end of the season, it will be time to drop most of the remaining two-loss teams. Until then, they'll eliminate themselves week by week, as they stop being two-loss teams.

(10-07-2018 02:48 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  15 teams could be eliminated next week with their 3rd loss. Stranger things can happened when Boise State took the NY6 bowl away from Marshall when Boise had 2 losses while Marshall had 1 loss.

Stronger than that-- 2 teams *will* be eliminated next week

Middle Tennessee plays at FIU, App State @ Arky State,
Someone walks out with three losses.

Plus Southern Miss (2-2) vs North Texas (5-1), Buffalo (5-1) vs Akron (2-1). They play the games, somebody wins, somebody loses. Modified NCAA basketball-survive and advance, maybe.

(10-07-2018 05:33 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(10-07-2018 02:48 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  15 teams could be eliminated next week with their 3rd loss. Stranger things can happened when Boise State took the NY6 bowl away from Marshall when Boise had 2 losses while Marshall had 1 loss.

Stronger than that-- 2 teams *will* be eliminated next week

Middle Tennessee plays at FIU, App State @ Arky State,
Someone walks out with three losses.

Plus Southern Miss (2-2) vs North Texas (5-1), Buffalo (5-1) vs Akron (2-1). They play the games, somebody wins, somebody loses. Modified NCAA basketball-survive and advance, maybe.

App is 3-1 and Ark St is 3-2 so it's possible neither are completely eliminated.

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The MWC champ is still in the running. A 1 loss Utah St v a 1 loss MWC west champ would be in great shape should the AAC East champion drop the ball in the AAC championship game.

I think App St should be in the running too but their chances of leapfrogging AAC and MWC champ are low

(10-07-2018 07:26 PM)solohawks Wrote:  The MWC champ is still in the running. A 1 loss Utah St v a 1 loss MWC west champ would be in great shape should the AAC East champion drop the ball in the AAC championship game.

I think App St should be in the running too but their chances of leapfrogging AAC and MWC champ are low

Their problem is Houston could be the opponent with 1 loss as well. If it's Houston with 1 loss vs East champ with 0-1 loss, there's absolutely positively nothing any one in any other G5 conference can do about it.

(10-07-2018 07:28 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(10-07-2018 07:26 PM)solohawks Wrote:  The MWC champ is still in the running. A 1 loss Utah St v a 1 loss MWC west champ would be in great shape should the AAC East champion drop the ball in the AAC championship game.

I think App St should be in the running too but their chances of leapfrogging AAC and MWC champ are low

Their problem is Houston could be the opponent with 1 loss as well. If it's Houston with 1 loss vs East champ with 0-1 loss, there's absolutely positively nothing any one in any other G5 conference can do about it.

Houston's only lost was to Texas Tech who knocked off Oklahoma State. Houston's chances are as slim as Boise State's. AAC west looks even weaker than the AAC East. Navy got knocked off by Air Force yesterday.

(10-07-2018 07:40 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-07-2018 07:28 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(10-07-2018 07:26 PM)solohawks Wrote:  The MWC champ is still in the running. A 1 loss Utah St v a 1 loss MWC west champ would be in great shape should the AAC East champion drop the ball in the AAC championship game.

I think App St should be in the running too but their chances of leapfrogging AAC and MWC champ are low

Their problem is Houston could be the opponent with 1 loss as well. If it's Houston with 1 loss vs East champ with 0-1 loss, there's absolutely positively nothing any one in any other G5 conference can do about it.

Houston's only lost was to Texas Tech who knocked off Oklahoma State. Houston's chances are as slim as Boise State's. AAC west looks even weaker than the AAC East. Navy got knocked off by Air Force yesterday.

Wait a minute - didn't you just a few days ago say that Boise State would get picked because they beat Oklahoma 12 years ago? Wouldn't the same be said for Houston's win over Florida State in a NY6 bowl, which occurred more recently? Besides, a 1 loss Houston would have wins over a currently undefeated and ranked USF (note - not looking past the two games we still have to play before then) as well as a win over the AAC East winner (potentially undefeated UCF or Cincinnati). That resume is for sure going to look better than a 2-loss Boise State who dropped a home game to unranked San Diego State and got blown out by an already 2 loss Oklahoma State that still has to play 3 currently top 11 ranked teams as well as go to TCU and thus might finish the season 6-6.

I mean, it's fine to ROOT for a team, but it's usually better to at least be somewhat realistic.

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