(11-05-2018 01:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 01:21 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  i'm aware of that
the point is, if they need Hawaii or Liberty, thier in

I'd agree with you obviously on Hawaii.....

Liberty I'm not so sure of. Given that they are a transitioning team, I don't know that they'd get the benefit of the doubt.....

Without looking it up. Hawaii at 6-7 would make it and they would go back through all the 6 wins who had two FBS wins.
Then if it is less than 78 Liberty is in regardless at 6 wins because they've already worked through the schools with 6 wins but only 5 countable wins.

(11-05-2018 02:47 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 01:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 01:21 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  i'm aware of that
the point is, if they need Hawaii or Liberty, thier in

I'd agree with you obviously on Hawaii.....

Liberty I'm not so sure of. Given that they are a transitioning team, I don't know that they'd get the benefit of the doubt.....

Without looking it up. Hawaii at 6-7 would make it and they would go back through all the 6 wins who had two FBS wins.
Then if it is less than 78 Liberty is in regardless at 6 wins because they've already worked through the schools with 6 wins but only 5 countable wins.

I don't think they would. Liberty would be a 5-6 team with the 2nd FCS win not counting. I don't think they're going to make a huge exception for Liberty at all....

Having said this- I think we'll get to 78. Liberty would need only 28 teams left to get 6 wins..... With where we are- that should not happen.

(11-05-2018 02:51 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 02:47 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 01:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 01:21 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  i'm aware of that
the point is, if they need Hawaii or Liberty, thier in

I'd agree with you obviously on Hawaii.....

Liberty I'm not so sure of. Given that they are a transitioning team, I don't know that they'd get the benefit of the doubt.....

Without looking it up. Hawaii at 6-7 would make it and they would go back through all the 6 wins who had two FBS wins.
Then if it is less than 78 Liberty is in regardless at 6 wins because they've already worked through the schools with 6 wins but only 5 countable wins.

I don't think they would. Liberty would be a 5-6 team with the 2nd FCS win not counting. I don't think they're going to make a huge exception for Liberty at all....

Having said this- I think we'll get to 78. Liberty would need only 28 teams left to get 6 wins..... With where we are- that should not happen.

If you get to Liberty, you've already applied the rule allowing two FCS to count.

(11-05-2018 05:15 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 02:51 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 02:47 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 01:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 01:21 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  i'm aware of that
the point is, if they need Hawaii or Liberty, thier in

I'd agree with you obviously on Hawaii.....

Liberty I'm not so sure of. Given that they are a transitioning team, I don't know that they'd get the benefit of the doubt.....

Without looking it up. Hawaii at 6-7 would make it and they would go back through all the 6 wins who had two FBS wins.
Then if it is less than 78 Liberty is in regardless at 6 wins because they've already worked through the schools with 6 wins but only 5 countable wins.

I don't think they would. Liberty would be a 5-6 team with the 2nd FCS win not counting. I don't think they're going to make a huge exception for Liberty at all....

Having said this- I think we'll get to 78. Liberty would need only 28 teams left to get 6 wins..... With where we are- that should not happen.

If you get to Liberty, you've already applied the rule allowing two FCS to count.

That's not a rule. Used to be, but that went by the wayside a few years ago......

It's now-
1- any team with 6 wins, but FCS win vs non counting team
2- any 6-7 team
3- any 6-6 transitioning team
4- 5-7 by APR

(11-05-2018 05:35 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 05:15 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 02:51 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 02:47 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 01:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I'd agree with you obviously on Hawaii.....

Liberty I'm not so sure of. Given that they are a transitioning team, I don't know that they'd get the benefit of the doubt.....

Without looking it up. Hawaii at 6-7 would make it and they would go back through all the 6 wins who had two FBS wins.
Then if it is less than 78 Liberty is in regardless at 6 wins because they've already worked through the schools with 6 wins but only 5 countable wins.

I don't think they would. Liberty would be a 5-6 team with the 2nd FCS win not counting. I don't think they're going to make a huge exception for Liberty at all....

Having said this- I think we'll get to 78. Liberty would need only 28 teams left to get 6 wins..... With where we are- that should not happen.

If you get to Liberty, you've already applied the rule allowing two FCS to count.

That's not a rule. Used to be, but that went by the wayside a few years ago......

It's now-
1- any team with 6 wins, but FCS win vs non counting team
2- any 6-7 team
3- any 6-6 transitioning team
4- 5-7 by APR

So if the 6th win was against Norfolk State, it just wouldn't count at all, and officially they would be 5-6 for Bowl Purposes?

(11-05-2018 06:19 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 05:35 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 05:15 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 02:51 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 02:47 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Without looking it up. Hawaii at 6-7 would make it and they would go back through all the 6 wins who had two FBS wins.
Then if it is less than 78 Liberty is in regardless at 6 wins because they've already worked through the schools with 6 wins but only 5 countable wins.

I don't think they would. Liberty would be a 5-6 team with the 2nd FCS win not counting. I don't think they're going to make a huge exception for Liberty at all....

Having said this- I think we'll get to 78. Liberty would need only 28 teams left to get 6 wins..... With where we are- that should not happen.

If you get to Liberty, you've already applied the rule allowing two FCS to count.

That's not a rule. Used to be, but that went by the wayside a few years ago......

It's now-
1- any team with 6 wins, but FCS win vs non counting team
2- any 6-7 team
3- any 6-6 transitioning team
4- 5-7 by APR

So if the 6th win was against Norfolk State, it just wouldn't count at all, and officially they would be 5-6 for Bowl Purposes?

Correct. Unless they got a waiver for it- which I wouldn't expect. This is a make up of their Florence game- which sounds waiver possible- except for the fact that the original game was against Norfolk State.

(11-05-2018 05:35 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 05:15 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 02:51 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 02:47 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 01:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I'd agree with you obviously on Hawaii.....

Liberty I'm not so sure of. Given that they are a transitioning team, I don't know that they'd get the benefit of the doubt.....

Without looking it up. Hawaii at 6-7 would make it and they would go back through all the 6 wins who had two FBS wins.
Then if it is less than 78 Liberty is in regardless at 6 wins because they've already worked through the schools with 6 wins but only 5 countable wins.

I don't think they would. Liberty would be a 5-6 team with the 2nd FCS win not counting. I don't think they're going to make a huge exception for Liberty at all....

Having said this- I think we'll get to 78. Liberty would need only 28 teams left to get 6 wins..... With where we are- that should not happen.

If you get to Liberty, you've already applied the rule allowing two FCS to count.

That's not a rule. Used to be, but that went by the wayside a few years ago......

It's now-
1- any team with 6 wins, but FCS win vs non counting team
2- any 6-7 team
3- any 6-6 transitioning team
4- 5-7 by APR

You are saying EXACTLY the same thing I said but drawing a different conclusion.
First they add in any six win without enough qualifying
Then any 6-6
Then any 6 win Transition team.

My conclusion they have already reached the point where they are willing to permit a team with not enough qualifying wins in so they would apply that principle to a 6-6 transition to avoid dropping into the 5-7

(11-05-2018 07:49 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 05:35 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 05:15 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 02:51 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 02:47 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Without looking it up. Hawaii at 6-7 would make it and they would go back through all the 6 wins who had two FBS wins.
Then if it is less than 78 Liberty is in regardless at 6 wins because they've already worked through the schools with 6 wins but only 5 countable wins.

I don't think they would. Liberty would be a 5-6 team with the 2nd FCS win not counting. I don't think they're going to make a huge exception for Liberty at all....

Having said this- I think we'll get to 78. Liberty would need only 28 teams left to get 6 wins..... With where we are- that should not happen.

If you get to Liberty, you've already applied the rule allowing two FCS to count.

That's not a rule. Used to be, but that went by the wayside a few years ago......

It's now-
1- any team with 6 wins, but FCS win vs non counting team
2- any 6-7 team
3- any 6-6 transitioning team
4- 5-7 by APR

You are saying EXACTLY the same thing I said but drawing a different conclusion.
First they add in any six win without enough qualifying
Then any 6-6
Then any 6 win Transition team.

My conclusion they have already reached the point where they are willing to permit a team with not enough qualifying wins in so they would apply that principle to a 6-6 transition to avoid dropping into the 5-7

But their 6-6 would include 2 FCS wins. There is now NO provision for that to move ahead of 5-7 teams. Used to be.

S20 is correct, a waiver would have to be given by the NCAA to allow 2 FCS to count. They did for South Alabama once but that was due to the fact LSU cancelled the game to make up an SEC game. They had to schedule a FCS team to get their 12th game.

(11-05-2018 07:49 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 05:35 PM)stever20 Wrote:  It's now-
1- any team with 6 wins, but FCS win vs non counting team ...

You are saying EXACTLY the same thing I said but drawing a different conclusion.
First they add in any six win without enough qualifying ...

To be explicit, "non-counting team" means ONE FCS win, but the FCS team doesn't have enough scholarships to be eligible to count. It doesn't mean "has an FCSwin that doesn't count because another FCS win has already been counted".

If you have 2 FCS wins and one of them counts because that FCS school has enough scholarships to count ... then you've got your win against a counting FCS school. If neither of them counted, and you had 5 wins against FBS schools, then hitting the first criteria would let one of them count and bump you up to six.

(11-05-2018 10:11 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  Teams with 5 wins

1. Baylor 5-4 (Iowa State, TCU, Texas Tech)
2. Iowa State 5-3 (Baylor, Texas, Kansas State, Incarnate Word)
3. Miami 5-4 (Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, Pitt)
4. Temple 5-3 (Houston, USF, UConn)
5. Texas Tech 5-4 (Texas, Kansas State, Baylor)
6. Georgia Tech 5-4 (Miami, Virginia, Georgia)
7. Eastern Michigan 5-5 (Akron, Kent State)
8. Marshall 5-2 (Charlotte, UTSA, FIU)
9. Colorado 5-4 (Washington State, Utah, California)
10. USC 5-4 (California, UCLA, Norte Dame)
11. Stanford 5-4 (Oregon State, California, UCLA)
12. Memphis 5-4 (Tulsa, SMU, Houston)
13. Texas A&M 5-4 (Ole Miss, UAB, LSU)
14. Arkansas State 5-3 (Coastal Carolina, ULM, Texas State)
15. Oklahoma State 5-4 (Oklahoma, West Virginia, TCU)
16. Purdue 5-4 (Minnesota, Wisconsin, Indiana)
17. Maryland 5-4 (Indiana, Ohio State, Penn State)
18. Northwestern 5-4 (Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois)
19 Toledo 5-5 (Kent State, Central Michigan)
20. Nevada 5-4 (Colorado State, San Jose State, UNLV)
21. California 5-4 (USC, Stanford, Colorado)
22. ULM 5-4 (South Alabama, Arkansas State, Louisiana)
23. Coastal Carolina 5-4 (Arkansas State, Georgia Southern, South Alabama)
24. Pittsburgh 5-4 (Virginia Tech, Wake Forrest, Miami)
25. Arizona 5-5 (Washington State, Arizona State)
26. Arizona State 5-4 (UCLA, Oregon, Arizona)
27. South Carolina 5-3 (Florida, Chattanooga, Clemson, Akron)
28. Missouri 5-4 (Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Arkansas)
29. Hawaii 6-5 Needs 7 wins to be Bowl Eligible (UNLV, San Diego State)




Teams with 4 wins

1. FSU 4-5 (Norte Dame, Boston College, Florida)
2. Virginia Tech 4-4 (Pitt, Miami, Virginia)
3. Tulane 4-5 (East Carolina, Houston, Navy)
4. TCU 4-5 (West Virginia, Baylor, Oklahoma State)
5. Minnesota 4-5 (Purdue, Northwestern, Wisconsin)
6. Illinois 4-5 (Nebraska, Iowa, Northwestern)
7. Indiana 4-5 (Maryland, Michigan, Purdue)
8. BYU 4-5 (UMass, New Mexico State, Utah)
9. Akron 4-4 (Eastern Michigan, Bowling Green, Ohio, South Carolina)
10. Tennessee 4-5 (Kentucky, Missouri, Vanderbilt)
11. Vanderbilt 4-5 (Missouri, Ole Miss, Tennessee)
12. Louisiana 4-5 (Georgia State, South Alabama, ULM)
13. Wake Forrest 4-5 (NC State, Pitt, Duke)
14. FAU 4-5 (Western Kentucky, North Texas, Charlotte)
15. Southern Miss 4-4 (UAB, La Tech, UTEP)
16 Charlotte 4-5 (Marshall, FIU, FAU)
17. SMU 4-5 (UConn, Memphis, Tulsa)
18. UMass 4-6 (BYU, Georgia)
19. Wyoming 4-6 (Air Force, New Mexico)
20. Liberty 4-4 (Virginia, Auburn, New Mexico State, Norfork State 2nd FBS game)
21. Miami Ohio 4-6 (NIU, Ball State)

Updated

Bowl Eligible Teams

1. Clemson 9-0
2. Cincinnati 8-1
3. UCF 8-0
4. USF 7-2
5. Houston 7-2
6. Oklahoma 8-1
7. Texas 6-3
8. Iowa 6-3
9. Michigan 8-1
10. Ohio State 8-1
11. North Texas 7-2
12. UAB 8-1
13. Norte Dame 9-0
14. Buffalo 9-1
15. Western Michigan 6-4
16. Utah State 8-1
17. Fresno State 8-1
18. San Diego State 7-2
19. Washington 7-3
20. Washington State 8-1
21. Alabama 9-0
22. LSU 7-2
23. Florida 6-3
24. Georgia 8-1
25. Kentucky 7-2
26. Georgia Southern 7-1
27. Troy 7-2
28. Boston College 7-2
29. Syracuse 7-2
30. Virginia 6-3
31. West Virginia 7-1
32. Penn State 6-3
33. FIU 6-3
34. LaTech 6-3
35. Army 7-2
36. Boise State 7-2
37. Utah 6-3
38. NC State 6-3
39. Duke 6-3
40. Michigan State 6-3
41. Wisconsin 6-3
42. Middle Tennessee 6-3
43. Ohio 6-4
44. Northern Illinois 7-3
45. Oregon 6-3
46. Auburn 6-3
47. Miss State 6-3
48. Appalachian State 6-2

Teams needing 1 more win

1. Baylor 5-4 (Iowa State, TCU, Texas Tech)
2. Iowa State 5-3 (Baylor, Texas, Kansas State, Incarnate Word)
3. Miami 5-4 (Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, Pitt)
4. Temple 5-3 (Houston, USF, UConn)
5. Texas Tech 5-4 (Texas, Kansas State, Baylor)
6. Georgia Tech 5-4 (Miami, Virginia, Georgia)
7. Eastern Michigan 5-5 (Akron, Kent State)
8. Marshall 5-2 (Charlotte, UTSA, FIU)
9. Colorado 5-4 (Washington State, Utah, California)
10. USC 5-4 (California, UCLA, Norte Dame)
11. Stanford 5-4 (Oregon State, California, UCLA)
12. Memphis 5-4 (Tulsa, SMU, Houston)
13. Texas A&M 5-4 (Ole Miss, UAB, LSU)
14. Arkansas State 5-3 (Coastal Carolina, ULM, Texas State)
15. Oklahoma State 5-4 (Oklahoma, West Virginia, TCU)
16. Purdue 5-4 (Minnesota, Wisconsin, Indiana)
17. Maryland 5-4 (Indiana, Ohio State, Penn State)
18. Northwestern 5-4 (Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois)
19 Toledo 5-5 (Kent State, Central Michigan)
20. Nevada 5-4 (Colorado State, San Jose State, UNLV)
21. California 5-4 (USC, Stanford, Colorado)
22. ULM 5-4 (South Alabama, Arkansas State, Louisiana)
23. Coastal Carolina 5-4 (Arkansas State, Georgia Southern, South Alabama)
24. Pittsburgh 5-4 (Virginia Tech, Wake Forrest, Miami)
25. Arizona 5-5 (Washington State, Arizona State)
26. Arizona State 5-4 (UCLA, Oregon, Arizona)
27. South Carolina 5-3 (Florida, Chattanooga, Clemson, Akron)
28. Missouri 5-4 (Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Arkansas)
29. Wake Forrest 4-5 (Pitt, Duke)
30. Hawaii 6-5 Needs 7 wins to be Bowl Eligible (UNLV, San Diego State)


Teams needing 2 more wins

1. FSU 4-5 (Norte Dame, Boston College, Florida)
2. Virginia Tech 4-4 (Pitt, Miami, Virginia)
3. Tulane 4-5 (East Carolina, Houston, Navy)
4. TCU 4-5 (West Virginia, Baylor, Oklahoma State)
5. Minnesota 4-5 (Purdue, Northwestern, Wisconsin)
6. Illinois 4-5 (Nebraska, Iowa, Northwestern)
7. Indiana 4-5 (Maryland, Michigan, Purdue)
8. BYU 4-5 (UMass, New Mexico State, Utah)
9. Akron 4-4 (Eastern Michigan, Bowling Green, Ohio, South Carolina)
10. Tennessee 4-5 (Kentucky, Missouri, Vanderbilt)
11. Vanderbilt 4-5 (Missouri, Ole Miss, Tennessee)
12. Louisiana 4-5 (Georgia State, South Alabama, ULM)
13. FAU 4-5 (Western Kentucky, North Texas, Charlotte)
14. Southern Miss 4-4 (UAB, La Tech, UTEP)
15 Charlotte 4-5 (Marshall, FIU, FAU)
16. SMU 4-5 (UConn, Memphis, Tulsa)
17. UMass 4-6 (BYU, Georgia)
18. Wyoming 4-6 (Air Force, New Mexico)
19. Miami Ohio 4-6 (NIU, Ball State)
20. Liberty 4-4 (Virginia, Auburn, New Mexico State, Norfork State 2nd FBS game)

Updated list

Bowl Eligible Teams

1. Clemson 10-0
2. Cincinnati 9-1
3. UCF 9-0
4. USF 7-3
5. Houston 7-3
6. Oklahoma 9-1
7. Texas 7-3
8. Iowa 6-4
9. Michigan 9-1
10. Ohio State 9-1
11. North Texas 7-3
12. UAB 9-1
13. Norte Dame 10-0
14. Buffalo 9-1
15. Western Michigan 6-4
16. Utah State 9-1
17. Fresno State 8-2
18. San Diego State 7-3
19. Washington 7-3
20. Washington State 9-1
21. Alabama 10-0
22. LSU 8-2
23. Florida 7-3
24. Georgia 9-1
25. Kentucky 7-3
26. Georgia Southern 7-3
27. Troy 8-2
28. Boston College 7-3
29. Syracuse 8-2
30. Virginia 7-3
31. West Virginia 8-1
32. Penn State 7-3
33. FIU 7-3
34. LaTech 7-3
35. Army 8-2
36. Boise State 8-2
37. Utah 7-3
38. NC State 6-3
39. Duke 7-3
40. Michigan State 6-4
41. Wisconsin 6-4
42. Middle Tennessee 7-3
43. Ohio 6-4
44. Northern Illinois 7-3
45. Oregon 6-4
46. Auburn 6-4
47. Miss State 6-4
48. Appalachian State 7-2
49. Temple 6-4
50. Memphis 6-4
51. Pittsburgh 6-4
52. Georgia Tech 6-4
53. Iowa State 6-3
54. Northwestern 6-4
55. Marshall 6-3
56. Eastern Michigan 6-5
57. Nevada 6-4
58. Stanford 6-4
59. California 6-4
60. Arizona State 6-4
61. Missouri 6-4
62. Texas A&M 6-4
63. ULM 6-4
64. Arkansas State 6-4


Teams needing 1 more win

1. Baylor 5-5 (TCU, Texas Tech)
2. Indiana 5-5 (Michigan, Purdue)
3. Miami 5-5 (Virginia Tech, Pitt)
4. SMU 5-5 (Memphis, Tulsa)
5. Texas Tech 5-5 (Kansas State, Baylor)
6. Minnesota 5-5 (Northwestern, Wisconsin)
7. Tennessee 5-5 (Missouri, Vanderbilt)
8. Colorado 5-5 (Utah, California)
10. USC 5-5 (UCLA, Norte Dame)
11. Louisiana 5-5 (South Alabama, ULM)
12. FAU 5-5 (North Texas, Charlotte)
13. Oklahoma State 5-5 (West Virginia, TCU)
14. Purdue 5-5 (Wisconsin, Indiana)
15. Maryland 5-5 (Ohio State, Penn State)
16. BYU 5-5 (New Mexico State, Utah)
17 Toledo 5-5 (Kent State, Central Michigan)
18. Coastal Carolina 5-5 (Georgia Southern, South Alabama)
19. Arizona 5-5 (Washington State, Arizona State)
20. South Carolina 5-4 (Chattanooga, Clemson, Akron)
21 Wake Forrest 5-5 (Pitt, Duke)
22. Hawaii 6-5 Needs 7 wins to be Bowl Eligible (UNLV, San Diego State)
23. Tulane 5-5 ( Houston, Navy)

Teams needing 2 more wins

1. FSU 4-6 (Boston College, Florida)
2. Virginia Tech 4-5 (Miami, Virginia)
3. Kansas St 4-6 (Texas Tech, Iowa St
4. TCU 4-6 (Baylor, Oklahoma State)
5. Air Force 4-6 (Wyoming, Colorado St)
6. Illinois 4-6 (Nebraska, Iowa, Northwestern)
7. Indiana 5-5 (Michigan, Purdue)
8. Akron 4-5 ( Bowling Green, Ohio, South Carolina)
9. Vanderbilt 4-6 (Ole Miss, Tennessee)
10. Southern Miss 4-5 (La Tech, UTEP)
11 Charlotte 4-6 ( FIU, FAU)
12. SMU 5-5 (Memphis, Tulsa)
13. UMass 4-6 (BYU, Georgia)
14. Wyoming 4-6 (Air Force, New Mexico)
15. Miami Ohio 4-6 (NIU, Ball State)
16. Liberty 4-5 (Auburn, New Mexico State, Norfork State 2nd FBS game)

(11-12-2018 12:08 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  Teams needing 1 more win

1. Baylor 5-5 (TCU, Texas Tech)
2. Indiana 5-5 (Michigan, Purdue)
3. Miami 5-5 (Virginia Tech, Pitt)
4. SMU 5-5 (Memphis, Tulsa)
5. Texas Tech 5-5 (Kansas State, Baylor)
6. Minnesota 5-5 (Northwestern, Wisconsin)
7. Tennessee 5-5 (Missouri, Vanderbilt)
8. Colorado 5-5 (Utah, California)
10. USC 5-5 (UCLA, Norte Dame)
11. Louisiana 5-5 (South Alabama, ULM)
12. FAU 5-5 (North Texas, Charlotte)
13. Oklahoma State 5-5 (West Virginia, TCU)
14. Purdue 5-5 (Wisconsin, Indiana)
15. Maryland 5-5 (Ohio State, Penn State)
16. BYU 5-5 (New Mexico State, Utah)
17 Toledo 5-5 (Kent State, Central Michigan)
18. Coastal Carolina 5-5 (Georgia Southern, South Alabama)
19. Arizona 5-5 (Washington State, Arizona State)
20. South Carolina 5-4 (Chattanooga, Clemson, Akron)
21 Wake Forrest 5-5 (Pitt, Duke)
22. Hawaii 6-5 Needs 7 wins to be Bowl Eligible (UNLV, San Diego State)
23. Tulane 5-5 ( Houston, Navy)

A lot of these teams needing one more win are facing tough competition. Of these, I expect SMU, TT, USC, ULL, FAU, OK State, Purdue, BYU, Toledo, South Carolina, and Hawaii to make it.

I don't think any of the teams needing two wins will. FSU's remarkable 37 year streak is in mortal danger.

(11-12-2018 09:40 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 12:08 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  Teams needing 1 more win

1. Baylor 5-5 (TCU, Texas Tech)
2. Indiana 5-5 (Michigan, Purdue)
3. Miami 5-5 (Virginia Tech, Pitt)
4. SMU 5-5 (Memphis, Tulsa)
5. Texas Tech 5-5 (Kansas State, Baylor)
6. Minnesota 5-5 (Northwestern, Wisconsin)
7. Tennessee 5-5 (Missouri, Vanderbilt)
8. Colorado 5-5 (Utah, California)
10. USC 5-5 (UCLA, Norte Dame)
11. Louisiana 5-5 (South Alabama, ULM)
12. FAU 5-5 (North Texas, Charlotte)
13. Oklahoma State 5-5 (West Virginia, TCU)
14. Purdue 5-5 (Wisconsin, Indiana)
15. Maryland 5-5 (Ohio State, Penn State)
16. BYU 5-5 (New Mexico State, Utah)
17 Toledo 5-5 (Kent State, Central Michigan)
18. Coastal Carolina 5-5 (Georgia Southern, South Alabama)
19. Arizona 5-5 (Washington State, Arizona State)
20. South Carolina 5-4 (Chattanooga, Clemson, Akron)
21 Wake Forrest 5-5 (Pitt, Duke)
22. Hawaii 6-5 Needs 7 wins to be Bowl Eligible (UNLV, San Diego State)
23. Tulane 5-5 ( Houston, Navy)

A lot of these teams needing one more win are facing tough competition. Of these, I expect SMU, TT, USC, ULL, FAU, OK State, Purdue, BYU, Toledo, South Carolina, and Hawaii to make it.

I don't think any of the teams needing two wins will. FSU's remarkable 37 year streak is in mortal danger.

Coastal Carolina should pick up its 6th win against South Alabama. Also Tulane can win against Navy.

(11-12-2018 10:17 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 09:40 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 12:08 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  Teams needing 1 more win

1. Baylor 5-5 (TCU, Texas Tech)
2. Indiana 5-5 (Michigan, Purdue)
3. Miami 5-5 (Virginia Tech, Pitt)
4. SMU 5-5 (Memphis, Tulsa)
5. Texas Tech 5-5 (Kansas State, Baylor)
6. Minnesota 5-5 (Northwestern, Wisconsin)
7. Tennessee 5-5 (Missouri, Vanderbilt)
8. Colorado 5-5 (Utah, California)
10. USC 5-5 (UCLA, Norte Dame)
11. Louisiana 5-5 (South Alabama, ULM)
12. FAU 5-5 (North Texas, Charlotte)
13. Oklahoma State 5-5 (West Virginia, TCU)
14. Purdue 5-5 (Wisconsin, Indiana)
15. Maryland 5-5 (Ohio State, Penn State)
16. BYU 5-5 (New Mexico State, Utah)
17 Toledo 5-5 (Kent State, Central Michigan)
18. Coastal Carolina 5-5 (Georgia Southern, South Alabama)
19. Arizona 5-5 (Washington State, Arizona State)
20. South Carolina 5-4 (Chattanooga, Clemson, Akron)
21 Wake Forrest 5-5 (Pitt, Duke)
22. Hawaii 6-5 Needs 7 wins to be Bowl Eligible (UNLV, San Diego State)
23. Tulane 5-5 ( Houston, Navy)

A lot of these teams needing one more win are facing tough competition. Of these, I expect SMU, TT, USC, ULL, FAU, OK State, Purdue, BYU, Toledo, South Carolina, and Hawaii to make it.

I don't think any of the teams needing two wins will. FSU's remarkable 37 year streak is in mortal danger.

Coastal Carolina should pick up its 6th win against Georgia State. Also Tulane can win against Navy.

Yeah, I admit I don't know enough about some of those more obscure G5 schools like Coastal to really know, and I thought hard about Tulane vs Navy, but I think the middies will pull that one out. I admit that will be a close one that Tulane definitely could win.

So if there are 77 bowl-eligible teams, how many short would that leave us?

AF & Wym play for 5th win
both winnable games following wk

need 7 to make eligabilty this wk
which they barely make [SoCar, Toledo, BYU should be locks]
they following wk, almost 20 [5 wins] schools, need 6

(11-12-2018 10:23 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 10:17 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 09:40 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 12:08 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  Teams needing 1 more win

1. Baylor 5-5 (TCU, Texas Tech)
2. Indiana 5-5 (Michigan, Purdue)
3. Miami 5-5 (Virginia Tech, Pitt)
4. SMU 5-5 (Memphis, Tulsa)
5. Texas Tech 5-5 (Kansas State, Baylor)
6. Minnesota 5-5 (Northwestern, Wisconsin)
7. Tennessee 5-5 (Missouri, Vanderbilt)
8. Colorado 5-5 (Utah, California)
10. USC 5-5 (UCLA, Norte Dame)
11. Louisiana 5-5 (South Alabama, ULM)
12. FAU 5-5 (North Texas, Charlotte)
13. Oklahoma State 5-5 (West Virginia, TCU)
14. Purdue 5-5 (Wisconsin, Indiana)
15. Maryland 5-5 (Ohio State, Penn State)
16. BYU 5-5 (New Mexico State, Utah)
17 Toledo 5-5 (Kent State, Central Michigan)
18. Coastal Carolina 5-5 (Georgia Southern, South Alabama)
19. Arizona 5-5 (Washington State, Arizona State)
20. South Carolina 5-4 (Chattanooga, Clemson, Akron)
21 Wake Forrest 5-5 (Pitt, Duke)
22. Hawaii 6-5 Needs 7 wins to be Bowl Eligible (UNLV, San Diego State)
23. Tulane 5-5 ( Houston, Navy)

A lot of these teams needing one more win are facing tough competition. Of these, I expect SMU, TT, USC, ULL, FAU, OK State, Purdue, BYU, Toledo, South Carolina, and Hawaii to make it.

I don't think any of the teams needing two wins will. FSU's remarkable 37 year streak is in mortal danger.

Coastal Carolina should pick up its 6th win against Georgia State. Also Tulane can win against Navy.

Yeah, I admit I don't know enough about some of those more obscure G5 schools like Coastal to really know, and I thought hard about Tulane vs Navy, but I think the middies will pull that one out. I admit that will be a close one that Tulane definitely could win.

So if there are 77 bowl-eligible teams, how many short would that leave us?

One

Bowl Eligible Teams

1. Clemson 11-0
2. Cincinnati 9-2
3. UCF 10-0
4. USF 7-4
5. Houston 8-3
6. Oklahoma 10-1
7. Texas 8-3
8. Iowa 7-4
9. Michigan 10-1
10. Ohio State 10-1
11. North Texas 8-3
12. UAB 9-2
13. Norte Dame 11-0
14. Buffalo 9-2
15. Western Michigan 6-4
16. Utah State 10-1
17. Fresno State 9-2
18. San Diego State 7-4
19. Washington 8-3
20. Washington State 10-1
21. Alabama 11-0
22. LSU 9-2
23. Florida 8-3
24. Georgia 10-1
25. Kentucky 8-3
26. Georgia Southern 8-3
27. Troy 9-2
28. Boston College 7-4
29. Syracuse 8-3
30. Virginia 7-4
31. West Virginia 8-2
32. Penn State 8-3
33. FIU 8-3
34. LaTech 7-4
35. Army 9-2
36. Boise State 9-2
37. Utah 8-3
38. NC State 7-3
39. Duke 7-3
40. Michigan State 6-5
41. Wisconsin 7-4
42. Middle Tennessee 7-4
43. Ohio 7-4
44. Northern Illinois 7-3
45. Oregon 7-4
46. Auburn 7-4
47. Miss State 7-4
48. Appalachian State 8-2
49. Temple 7-4
50. Memphis 7-4
51. Pittsburgh 7-4
52. Georgia Tech 7-4
53. Iowa State 6-4
54. Northwestern 7-4
55. Marshall 7-3
56. Eastern Michigan 6-5
57. Nevada 7-4
58. Stanford 6-4
59. California 6-4
60. Arizona State 6-5
61. Missouri 7-4
62. Texas A&M 7-4
63. ULM 6-5
64. Arkansas State 7-4
65. Miami 6-5
66. Oklahoma State 6-5
67. BYU 6-5
68. Toledo 6-5
69. Hawaii 7-5
70. South Carolina 6-4
71. Louisiana 6-5



Teams needing 1 more win

1. Baylor 5-6 ( Texas Tech)
2. Indiana 5-6 (Purdue)
3. FSU 5-6 (Florida)
4. SMU 5-6 (Tulsa)
5. Texas Tech 5-6 (Baylor)
6. Minnesota 5-6 (Wisconsin)
7. Tennessee 5-6 (Vanderbilt)
8. Colorado 5-6 (California)
10. USC 5-6 (Norte Dame)
11. Kansas St 5-6 (Iowa St)
12. FAU 5-6 (Charlotte)
13. TCU 5-6 (Oklahoma State)
14. Purdue 5-6 (Indiana)
15. Maryland 5-6 (Penn State)
16 Southern Miss 5-5 (UTEP)
17. Coastal Carolina 5-6 (South Alabama)
18. Arizona 5-6 (Arizona State)
19. Wake Forrest 5-6 (Duke)
20.Vanderbilt 5-6 (Ole Miss,)
21. Tulane 5-6 (Navy)
22. Wyoming 5-6 (New Mexico)
23. Miami Ohio 5-6 (Ball State)

Teams needing 2 more wins

1. Akron 4-6 ( Ohio, South Carolina)
2. Liberty 4-6 (New Mexico State, Norfork State 2nd FBS game)