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RE: The WAC is looking at bringing back football (FCS)
(11-10-2018 01:55 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(11-10-2018 04:45 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(11-09-2018 08:54 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  
(11-09-2018 02:42 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(11-09-2018 12:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Both Simon Fraser and Minot State are looking to join D1 for men's hockey.

Does anybody know why Colorado Mesa just listed their Men's Hockey as an emerging sport? They play as a club team. Could they going upgrade it to D1 varsity and add a women's team? Colo. Mesa already sponsor 23 sports.

Has there been any new press about Minot State and Simon Fraser adding varsity hockey since the purely speculative USCHO article over 2 years ago? Has D1 changed their rules yet to allow international membership?

If you would provide the link to what you are asking about then maybe you could get an answer. Based on the primary source, which would be the school's athletic website, Men's Ice Hockey is a standard club team and a member of the ACHA.

And, what does this have to do with WAC bringing back FCS football?


David thinks that because they form a club hockey team means they are looking at D1 for football.


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I am looking at this because some of the sports listed as club but are under a different organization like the skiing and rodeo are not NCAA sports. Those athletes do get scholarships which are not under NCAA rules. Some schools like Central Washington sponsors both men and women's rugby. That is an emerging sport for NCAA to look at in the future. On another site and not CMU, did not have men's hockey as an emerging sport earlier this year. There have been talks about schools who have club hockey going varsity. There had been several women's club hockey teams already went to varsity the past couple of years. Women's wrestling was listed last year for CMU as an emerging sport, and CMU added it earlier this year as a sport for number 23. If CMU do add men's hockey as a varsity sport? Colorado Mesa also have men and women's rugby listed as an emerging sport.

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So much is wrong with this, it's not worth the effort.

A lot of things could happen.

Again, how is any of this relevant to the WAC bringing back FCS football? Could that question actually be answered?


It depends. Many of the schools I mentioned have football, but not all of the sports that the WAC requires. Rugby is an emerging sport that many WAC teams have in men's sport. Rugby is cheap to add including have a large team for women. It is one of the cheapest of the large teams that D2 could start up with and fall under title 9. Summit League schools also could sponsor Rugby as well which UMKC, Drury, Augustana, St. Cloud St., Minn.-Duluth, Mankato State and some others could be a part of. Several LONE sTAR Schools also have rugby. If the NCAA D1 decides to sponsor D1 men and women's rugby? You do have several D2 schools could make the move to the WAC if WAC sponsors the sport.
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RE: The WAC is looking at bringing back football (FCS)
Why is rugby now being mentioned? Even if the WAC started sponsoring it, I doubt any school that would be an affiliate in the sport would immediately try and use it as a stepping stone to move the rest of their sports to D1.
11-11-2018 03:12 PM
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RE: The WAC is looking at bringing back football (FCS)
(11-11-2018 02:28 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(11-10-2018 01:55 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(11-10-2018 04:45 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(11-09-2018 08:54 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  
(11-09-2018 02:42 PM)AZcats Wrote:  Has there been any new press about Minot State and Simon Fraser adding varsity hockey since the purely speculative USCHO article over 2 years ago? Has D1 changed their rules yet to allow international membership?

If you would provide the link to what you are asking about then maybe you could get an answer. Based on the primary source, which would be the school's athletic website, Men's Ice Hockey is a standard club team and a member of the ACHA.

And, what does this have to do with WAC bringing back FCS football?


David thinks that because they form a club hockey team means they are looking at D1 for football.


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I am looking at this because some of the sports listed as club but are under a different organization like the skiing and rodeo are not NCAA sports. Those athletes do get scholarships which are not under NCAA rules. Some schools like Central Washington sponsors both men and women's rugby. That is an emerging sport for NCAA to look at in the future. On another site and not CMU, did not have men's hockey as an emerging sport earlier this year. There have been talks about schools who have club hockey going varsity. There had been several women's club hockey teams already went to varsity the past couple of years. Women's wrestling was listed last year for CMU as an emerging sport, and CMU added it earlier this year as a sport for number 23. If CMU do add men's hockey as a varsity sport? Colorado Mesa also have men and women's rugby listed as an emerging sport.

...

So much is wrong with this, it's not worth the effort.

A lot of things could happen.

Again, how is any of this relevant to the WAC bringing back FCS football? Could that question actually be answered?


It depends. Many of the schools I mentioned have football, but not all of the sports that the WAC requires. Rugby is an emerging sport that many WAC teams have in men's sport. Rugby is cheap to add including have a large team for women. It is one of the cheapest of the large teams that D2 could start up with and fall under title 9. Summit League schools also could sponsor Rugby as well which UMKC, Drury, Augustana, St. Cloud St., Minn.-Duluth, Mankato State and some others could be a part of. Several LONE sTAR Schools also have rugby. If the NCAA D1 decides to sponsor D1 men and women's rugby? You do have several D2 schools could make the move to the WAC if WAC sponsors the sport.

Men's Rugby is not sanctioned by the NCAA in any way; it is not a championship sport or an emerging sport. As far as the NCAA is concerned, men's rugby is a club sport. Women's Rugby is a NCAA emerging sport with 18 teams. That's it, just 18 varsity women's rugby teams in the entire NCAA. Any other school with women's rugby is a club team.

American International College - DII
Bowdoin College - DIII
Brown University - DI
Castleton University - DIII
Central Washington University - DII
Colby-Sawyer College - DIII
Dartmouth College - DI
Harvard University - DI
Long Island University-Post - DII
Molloy College - DII
Mount St. Mary's University - DI
Norwich University - DIII
Notre Dame College (Ohio) - DII
Quinnipiac University - DI
Sacred Heart University - DI
U.S. Military Academy - DI
University of New England - DIII
West Chester University - DII

Club teams are not going to help a school's varsity athletic department. Now after reading about potential new Ice Hockey and Rugby teams we go back to the original question. How is any of this relevant to the WAC bringing back FCS football?
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