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Hey, James Franklin
How's that "Great" Penn State team doing?
11-04-2018 09:29 AM
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Had to do a double-take when seeing the 42-7 score yesterday. Remember when they led OSU 26-14 late? And Franklin said playing Pitt is like playing Akron? What a cliffdrop.
11-04-2018 09:33 AM
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The Big Ten really does need to allow OOC games to break up the conference schedule, IMO. It allows teams to heal when they don’t have a bye week. That’s precisely why the SEC allows it, IMO. Still, that blowout loss to Michigan was pretty bad.
11-04-2018 11:44 AM
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(11-04-2018 11:44 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  The Big Ten really does need to allow OOC games to break up the conference schedule, IMO. It allows teams to heal when they don’t have a bye week. That’s precisely why the SEC allows it, IMO. Still, that blowout loss to Michigan was pretty bad.

There’s no outright Big Ten rule against late season OOC games. (See Notre Dame at Northwestern yesterday.) That’s just not how Big Ten schools generally choose to do schedule and the league largely doesn’t have conference bye weeks during the last 3 weeks of the year. As a fan, it’s definitely better. I have zero desire to see a non-conference G5/FCS opponent in November. (It’s a bit different if you’re playing a team like Notre Dame.)
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11-04-2018 03:22 PM
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Although you may not like those kinds of games Frank, I'm sure there are fans out there who cannot afford Big Ten conference opponent ticket prices at all, and they may only have a shot at going to a game in November, but those fans could afford a non-conference G5/FCS opponent in November, so I'm sure they'd welcome the concept. In addition, non-conference G5/FCS opponents (when my G5 school isn't playing) give me a chance to catch up on work around the house and not be worried about missing a great game on tv (which still happens for me sometimes). Those games also give the coaches a chance to give the starters a well-deserved break as well as not having to worry about missing a crucial game due to injury, and get a look at how the backups are progressing.
11-05-2018 02:47 AM
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a break in thier sch, what about the conf games
top 3 teams in west been beat by Akron, BYU & EM
OSU was lucky to get out alive
B-10 been beaten by 7 G5 schools, you guys ? UCF conf sch.
Rutgers got hammered by Kansas & Buffalo
Nebraska improving, maybe thier getting into conf sch
Now B-10 did lose to the best team in Sun Belt, dam lucky it wasn't 2 loses
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11-05-2018 05:38 AM
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(11-04-2018 03:22 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  There’s no outright Big Ten rule against late season OOC games. (See Notre Dame at Northwestern yesterday.) That’s just not how Big Ten schools generally choose to do schedule and the league largely doesn’t have conference bye weeks during the last 3 weeks of the year.

That might be more true for some than others. To hear it from Penn State fans, Penn State-Pitt came off its place on the late November schedule because Big Ten schools felt they shouldn't have to (accommodate the scheduling), thus, wouldn't give PSU the concession.

I heard the same for Nebraska coming in with regard to Colorado. That it was known October and November were the Big Ten's weekends, not something out of the conference. Clearly, the PAC offers more wiggle room.

And while Northwestern got a late season game with Notre Dame, Michigan State came off the annual slate because of numerous challenges, including calendar placement. Michigan State had some rigid demands, and so did Notre Dame. The "best" Notre Dame could do was offer the game as part of the Shamrock Series, which got no play.

I know I've been saying for years that this "tradition" of the Big Ten conference schedule has got to go, and that the conference and its member institutions have to be fine with letting it go. It's been compromised ever since Penn State joined the conference, interrupting series every year now for over 25 years; it got worse as the conference expanded. But, instead of embracing it, you see the Big Ten doing things like creating new rivalries for its new members that carry no value or meaning to them. It's disingenuous.
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11-05-2018 08:03 AM
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Count me in the group that opposes any non-conference games after conference play starts. I hate even the handful of games they now schedule in the first 3 weeks. There is pluses and minuses of any set-up, but I'll take a bit heavier workload at the end rather than a chance to be thrown out of a divisional race before the team has had a chance to fully gel. National championship means being good all year, but the conference race is only for 8/9 games and I would prefer that not start until after everyone gets games in.

I've just seen too many years where an ACC/SEC race is done or close to done by November (the SEC is literally already done now and we are a month removed from the championship) or years where a game or games played in early September throws out a team that ends up being quite good.
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(11-04-2018 03:22 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(11-04-2018 11:44 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  The Big Ten really does need to allow OOC games to break up the conference schedule, IMO. It allows teams to heal when they don’t have a bye week. That’s precisely why the SEC allows it, IMO. Still, that blowout loss to Michigan was pretty bad.

There’s no outright Big Ten rule against late season OOC games. (See Notre Dame at Northwestern yesterday.) That’s just not how Big Ten schools generally choose to do schedule and the league largely doesn’t have conference bye weeks during the last 3 weeks of the year. As a fan, it’s definitely better. I have zero desire to see a non-conference G5/FCS opponent in November. (It’s a bit different if you’re playing a team like Notre Dame.)

That might be the case for programs like Illinois, Indiana, Rutgers, etc. but not for the likes of Penn State, Ohio State and Michigan.

One thing I noticed as a new PSU fan this season was fans were livid playing a road game (Illinois) on a Friday night. I don’t get why, maybe I see it from a G5 point of view and it was a road game not a home one but they were not happy. It was the first time since 1981 that PSU played on a Friday.
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(11-05-2018 01:53 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  One thing I noticed as a new PSU fan this season was fans were livid playing a road game (Illinois) on a Friday night. I don’t get why, maybe I see it from a G5 point of view and it was a road game not a home one but they were not happy. It was the first time since 1981 that PSU played on a Friday.

Some of these schools and their fans are not going to have to endure this scheduling demand. It should piss off Penn State's fans...considering they are one of the few schools in the conference that has no problem filling up their own or others' joints, this is on the school and the conference for putting this hardship on them. It might be one thing to play this game in New Brunswick or College Park...fans (and students) can make those trips easily by car. PSU to Illinois is almost a ten-hour trip by car. So you can go (yes, the always economical option of flight) to someone else's stadium and sit in garbage seats...the Big Ten clearly didn't think this through.
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(11-05-2018 01:53 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  One thing I noticed as a new PSU fan this season was fans were livid playing a road game (Illinois) on a Friday night. I don’t get why, maybe I see it from a G5 point of view and it was a road game not a home one but they were not happy. It was the first time since 1981 that PSU played on a Friday.

The Friday game date was fine. The starting time was not. The B1G and Fox did Penn State a disservice with the starting time.

That PSU @ Illinois game started at 9 ET --- which means it didn't end until considerably after Midnight ET (11 PM CT). That is absurd for a conference game. MSU had a situation where their game at Arizona State ended at 2 AM ET, but MSU is the one who scheduled a game in the Pacific Time Zone.

Admittedly: Illinois probably wanted the 8:00 local start to aid in their fan base getting there. OK. Then the B1G and Fox should work together to make sure that Friday night home game is against a fellow Central Time Zone team.
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PSU fans are crying because the game ended after midnight on fri night
are you kidden me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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(11-04-2018 11:44 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  The Big Ten really does need to allow OOC games to break up the conference schedule, IMO. It allows teams to heal when they don’t have a bye week. That’s precisely why the SEC allows it, IMO. Still, that blowout loss to Michigan was pretty bad.

Many rational people laugh at the SEC for their November scheduling.
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