(11-18-2018 12:45 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: (11-18-2018 12:37 PM)TerryD Wrote: (11-18-2018 12:29 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: (11-18-2018 11:32 AM)otown Wrote: (11-18-2018 11:29 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: In a vacuum I agree with you.
However, you have teams go undefeated, or with one loss, that have over the course of the season beaten top 10 teams, sometimes more than once and played in vastly higher stakes games.
That’s worth more.
Outside of Bama, Clemson, and ND......... what other teams ahead of UCF fit that merit? Use examples of who they beat, and dont ignore their losses
LSU has achieved more than UCF.
LSU has also achieved two losses. I am pretty damn far from a UCF fan, but think that they should be ranked ahead of a two loss LSU.
Their two loses are to two top 5 teams.
Make up fantasy facts as you go. The Gators have never been a top 5 team. With that said, as much as it pains me to say, the Gators have no business being in the top 15 as we speak.
So let me get this straight, one top 5 win against Georgia is enough to counteract 2 losses for LSU? Gotcha. I would agree with you if they only had one loss to Bama, but try to breath the air not at such a high altitude. At some point, losses have to matter.
OSU, who did they beat? A couple of preseason overranked teams in TCU, Penn State, and MSU? 2 of who are unranked now and another who has 3 losses already? Lets not forget the nail biter against Maryland yesterday and their loss against Purdue.
West Virginia, who did they beat? A 3 loss Texas and an overranked TTU who is no longer ranked? They now have 2 losses, so hopefully they drop. A true top ten team should not lose to an unranked team.
Washington State, who did they beat? An over ranked Oregon and Stanford with 4 losses each? Plus a loss to an unranked USC?
Oklahoma, who did they beat? NOBODY........ not a single ranked team. They did lose to an overranked Texas with 3 losses, 2 of which are to unranked teams. Lets not forget the 40 points they gave up to KANSAS.... yes, freaking KANSAS!!
Can't argue with Georgia, AT THIS TIME (although their loss to LSU was not even close).
Hesitant to argue with Michigan the way they have been playing late in the season. However, their one marque win is against a 3 loss PSU, no other ranked wins. And of course they lost to ND. Where are those huge marquee wins needed to erase a loss.
So that leaves us with a big question. I agree, huge top 10 wins can erase a loss. I simply do not see any teams outside of Georgia with the resume of wins to counteract a loss(es).
Nobody is arguing UCF's schedule side by side if we were comparing undefeated teams. This is despite a lot of those teams on the current #5-#10 CFP schedules who were frauds themselves and over ranked.
When does a loss mean anything anymore? Those teams with a loss, are not losing to top 10 teams. In some cases they are losing to downright crappy/mediocre teams.