Maybe it's just a matter of time, but I don't see anything definitive as of 9:15amET Sunday morning that Fedora has been fired. I see internet reports that the Cheaters' AD, Bubba, was quoted as saying "no decision" (has been made) postgame yesterday. Inside Carolina (aka Cheaters Central) is claiming it is imminent.

Per Bruce Feldman on Twitter, UNC has fired Larry Fedora.

Fedora is gone. I’m worried.

Not worried at all.

As much as some of you may not admit, the unc job is bigger than hcmh right now.

Unc can pay. A lot.

They aren’t splashing out that kind of money for an fcs coach. They will get someone bigger.

In 2015, Fedora led UNC to an 11-3 record, including a close loss to Clemson in the ACC championship game. 8-5 in 2016.

Two bad years, and he's gone. Not much patience there. Without looking, wonder if they lost one of their coordinators from 2015-2016 or had a ton of seniors.

It may just be the same rumor spread across multiple locations, but I've now read on more than one site, that there is a possibility they will try to get Mack Brown out of retirement to come home and right the ship.

(11-25-2018 11:30 AM)jmu007 Wrote:  It may just be the same rumor spread across multiple locations, but I've now read on more than one site, that there is a possibility they will try to get Mack Brown out of retirement to come home and right the ship.

That would actually be an excellent hire for UNC. If true too, it shows that MH will not be among their top 3 choices just due to the fact that he’s an FCS coach.

(11-25-2018 11:08 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  Not worried at all.

As much as some of you may not admit, the unc job is bigger than hcmh right now.

Unc can pay. A lot.

They aren’t splashing out that kind of money for an fcs coach. They will get someone bigger.

This ^. MH isn't going straight to a P5. It is too risky a move for an AD even if it makes sense.

Do we know for sure it makes sense? We have created our own purple world inside a purple bubble. We are an unseeded fcs program in a field with Incarnate Word and Duquesne. A team that punked us and cost us a seed lost to Wofford yesterday.

If we are going to lie to ourselves I agree we should lie big.

Houston to UNC is concerning, but shouldn’t be our biggest concern.

Scott Satterfield from App State is going to be on their very short list. If he’s their choice, App is going to come after Houston hard. That worries me.

Is App that much of an upgrade really? He said he would leave for something special and I doubt App State is that offer. Perhaps he would leave if he felt FBS just wasn’t in the cards at JMU. Because if we were going after FBS we could be in a conference that many would deem better than the SunBelt. In that case he would have left money on the table for a downgrade.
I think he would leave for a P5 and anything else would be a stretch. I know some say that’s not likely to happen, but it isn’t impossible. Plus if so that’s good for us.

(11-25-2018 01:39 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  Is App that much of an upgrade really? He said he would leave for something special and I doubt App State is that offer. Perhaps he would leave if he felt FBS just wasn’t in the cards at JMU. Because if we were going after FBS we could be in a conference that many would deem better than the SunBelt. In that case he would have left money on the table for a downgrade.
I think he would leave for a P5 and anything else would be a stretch. I know some say that’s not likely to happen, but it isn’t impossible. Plus if so that’s good for us.

If Houston were to leave JMU for App State we have our answer on JMU and FBS. Imagine Jeff Bourne's nebulous question dodging comments about that move.

In a way, Houston is in the same boat the JMU program is in. For the most part, a move to SB/CUSA/MAC would likely not be a step up, either from a program or salary point. I don't personally think he's going to move for a 200k bump- too much to lose. I also don't see him taking a P5 coordinator role- he likes being chief. But you never know. So what does that leave on the East Coast as a head coach? P5- not likely, from a perception standpoint. AAC schools, maybe-if they're bold. Appy could come into play though. They're a very solid program. Satterfield is getting 711k before performance incentives (425 base , plus 13k monthly retention and 130k "personality & licensing" bonus. Would think he'd want more to uproot the family again.

App State is a good job and it is close to home for Houston. We don’t want Satterfield going to UNC and opening up that possibility.

I imagine if Satterfield does leave, App State is ready to increase their package to a new coach so they can keep the momentum rolling.
They outplayed Penn State and took them to overtime on the road this year so there is plenty of talent on the roster.

Well, I was wrong. The Cheaters did fire the Hat. I hope they convince Mack Brown to come back. That would make me sleep a little better regarding Houston leaving us. Like I said earlier the arrogance at Cheater U is probably too great to take Houston, but like others have said, if they go after Satterfield, Houston may take the App job because of his ties to NC.


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I could definitely see donors from UNC screaming to not get Houston purely because he isn't a big name. They feel like they are a top program and deserve the best. To them- why on earth would they go after a guy that coached The Citadel? Why on earth would they take a guy coaching at a Division II school??
They aren't a top program but think they are and if they don't go after a big name, I can almost guarantee the UNC alums and donors will let them have it. It's not like Tennessee, but I could seriously see the donors backlashing against any guy that doesn't have a big name associated with him.... especially a guy that's never coached at an FBS school.
Especially a guy that just lost to NC State.

(11-25-2018 11:12 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  In 2015, Fedora led UNC to an 11-3 record, including a close loss to Clemson in the ACC championship game. 8-5 in 2016.

Two bad years, and he's gone. Not much patience there. Without looking, wonder if they lost one of their coordinators from 2015-2016 or had a ton of seniors.

In regards to the '16 season success. UNC had ~6-8 draft picks in the 2017 draft and ~3 more in 2018. Not sure how many of those picks played in 2015 but they had talented rosters those two years.

Only getting 2 FBS wins last season and 1 this year coupled with the 'successful' years for Cuse, BC, GT, and Pitt probably compounded the impact of two terrible years at UNC.

I would say App St is more likely a destination for Houston than UNC. This would be a good move for him if he wants to get to that P5 level eventually. If he is successful at App St for 3-4 years that would put him in line to get to a P5 gig, not to mention he is from their backyard.

Mike Houston is my favorite JMU coach of all time. I respect the way he runs the "program" and man 'o man do I love the results.

But as others have mentioned, it becomes more clear each game his comfort level is solid defense and a somewhat conservative offense.

There are many things I did not like about Withers, but one thing I did appreciate was his uptempo offense. I'm old school - great running game, wear out the other team's defense, play action pass, and play solid defense. I don't think he had great schemes, but he showed me if you press the tempo when you have better athletes it will lengthen the game when you have better athletes and JMU can more quickly wear down the defense. It also produced a swagger for the offense that I don't see right now. It's a lot more attractive for the fans, and I'm sure for recruiting. The offensive style of this team would not put up 65 against Sam Houston State.

I used to think if was harder to have a great defense with a high powered offense, but my views have changed. It's certainly more doable but I think now they can co-exist.

I think when Mike first got here he saw the offense was performing great so he focused more on the Defense and kept the offense more status quo. The offense still plays a decent pace, but it's not the extreme pass Withers teams or Houston's first year team ran.

Sadly I think this will hurt him if he steps up. To succeed these days the top programs also have great offenses.

All and all Mike is a great coach. His results speak for themselves. With the Citadel solid running game and great defense was the recipe for success. At JMU he should strive for a great offense and great defense.

Overall record as a head coach 80-24.
Overall record at JMU 37-5.

Amazing results.

Withers 2 years and Mike's first year it seemed like we pressed the pedal to the metal to enforce our will on other teams. I think we could still do the same today.

I just think revving up the engine a bit would benefit him.

Just my thoughts.

UNC hired Mack Brown

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(11-26-2018 09:16 AM)JMUDukes1750 Wrote:  UNC hired Mack Brown

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wow. OK.