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I suspect the "worst case" hire for GT is going to be Geoff Collins
... he wants the job, he's a psychotic recruiter, and he was responsible for the NFL caliber weapons on GT's '09 ACC title team (Dwyer, Nesbitt, Morgan, Burnett).

George O'Leary and many of his disciplines are also purportedly pushing hard for Geoff Collins.
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Well hopefully he's more like Steve Addazio or Matt Rhule than Al Golden. I certainly would feel better about this than Ken Whisenhunt leading the team.

He had a full rebuilding job at Temple and did well with it, minus that hideous loss to Villanova to start this year.
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(12-06-2018 10:04 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  http://footballscoop.com/news/sources-ge...rgia-tech/

I think he'd be a good pick up for GT. It'll take him 3 or 4 years to get going but he seems like a solid hire.
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(12-05-2018 03:00 PM)copycat Wrote:  He had a full rebuilding job at Temple

No
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RE: I suspect the "worst case" hire for GT is going to be Geoff Collins
(12-07-2018 04:02 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 03:00 PM)copycat Wrote:  He had a full rebuilding job at Temple

No

Yeah, I seem to recall a guy named Matt Rhule... he was pretty good.
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RE: I suspect the "worst case" hire for GT is going to be Geoff Collins
(12-07-2018 07:11 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(12-07-2018 04:02 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 03:00 PM)copycat Wrote:  He had a full rebuilding job at Temple

No

Yeah, I seem to recall a guy named Matt Rhule... he was pretty good.

A lot of Temple fans are glad to get rid of Geoff Collins. They believe he underperformed considering the talent he inherited from Matt Rhule.
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RE: I suspect the "worst case" hire for GT is going to be Geoff Collins
(12-07-2018 10:24 AM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  
(12-07-2018 07:11 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(12-07-2018 04:02 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 03:00 PM)copycat Wrote:  He had a full rebuilding job at Temple

No

Yeah, I seem to recall a guy named Matt Rhule... he was pretty good.

A lot of Temple fans are glad to get rid of Geoff Collins. They believe he underperformed considering the talent he inherited from Matt Rhule.

I'm pumped. Canada's name has been mentioned a bunch so far.
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RE: I suspect the "worst case" hire for GT is going to be Geoff Collins
Calling it now...Tech won't get a single win over Athens Cow College or ACC division title as long as Collins is coach. The irrational stigma of option offenses is going to be costly.
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RE: I suspect the "worst case" hire for GT is going to be Geoff Collins
(12-07-2018 10:24 AM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  
(12-07-2018 07:11 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(12-07-2018 04:02 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 03:00 PM)copycat Wrote:  He had a full rebuilding job at Temple

No

Yeah, I seem to recall a guy named Matt Rhule... he was pretty good.

A lot of Temple fans are glad to get rid of Geoff Collins. They believe he underperformed considering the talent he inherited from Matt Rhule.

This is the part that's hard to judge. Yes, there was talent - but how much of that talent was brought in by Collins himself?
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RE: I suspect the "worst case" hire for GT is going to be Geoff Collins
This is a Mike London kind of hire. Psychotic recruiter. History at GT. He was the guy responsible for signing the best recruiting class in GT history. He did good things under O'Leary. He recruited so well Tuscaloosa immediately stole him. If he can bring in the X's and O's people, particularly on offense, this could be interesting.

And for those about to say "but Mike London failed at UVA" ..... yes. But ask yourself what caused VT to fall. I would suggest it was Mike London severing the pipeline between Norfolk and Blacksburg. The Hokies haven't been the same since. And Mike London didn't exactly have a stellar staff beyond himself.
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RE: I suspect the "worst case" hire for GT is going to be Geoff Collins
(12-07-2018 10:57 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(12-07-2018 10:24 AM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  
(12-07-2018 07:11 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(12-07-2018 04:02 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 03:00 PM)copycat Wrote:  He had a full rebuilding job at Temple

No

Yeah, I seem to recall a guy named Matt Rhule... he was pretty good.

A lot of Temple fans are glad to get rid of Geoff Collins. They believe he underperformed considering the talent he inherited from Matt Rhule.

This is the part that's hard to judge. Yes, there was talent - but how much of that talent was brought in by Collins himself?

It's not even that, he's just not a particularly bright guy, and good coach.
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(12-07-2018 11:03 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  This is a Mike London kind of hire. Psychotic recruiter. History at GT. He was the guy responsible for signing the best recruiting class in GT history. He did good things under O'Leary. He recruited so well Tuscaloosa immediately stole him. If he can bring in the X's and O's people, particularly on offense, this could be interesting.

And for those about to say "but Mike London failed at UVA" ..... yes. But ask yourself what caused VT to fall. I would suggest it was Mike London severing the pipeline between Norfolk and Blacksburg. The Hokies haven't been the same since. And Mike London didn't exactly have a stellar staff beyond himself.

YES. If VT had a "Hall of Villains", Mike London would be in it.
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RE: I suspect the "worst case" hire for GT is going to be Geoff Collins
(12-07-2018 10:57 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(12-07-2018 10:24 AM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  
(12-07-2018 07:11 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(12-07-2018 04:02 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 03:00 PM)copycat Wrote:  He had a full rebuilding job at Temple

No

Yeah, I seem to recall a guy named Matt Rhule... he was pretty good.

A lot of Temple fans are glad to get rid of Geoff Collins. They believe he underperformed considering the talent he inherited from Matt Rhule.

This is the part that's hard to judge. Yes, there was talent - but how much of that talent was brought in by Collins himself?
On offense, Collins is responsible for recruiting the tackles. The other offensive players are Matt Rhule recruits. See below:

QB - Anthony Russo, RS So.
RB - Ryquell Armstead, Sr.
FB - Rob Ritrovato, RS Sr.
WR - Randle Jones, Jr.
WR - Brandon Mack, RS So.
WR - Isaiah Wright, Jr.
TE - Chris Myarick, RS Sr.
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RE: I suspect the "worst case" hire for GT is going to be Geoff Collins
(12-07-2018 11:41 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(12-07-2018 11:03 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  This is a Mike London kind of hire. Psychotic recruiter. History at GT. He was the guy responsible for signing the best recruiting class in GT history. He did good things under O'Leary. He recruited so well Tuscaloosa immediately stole him. If he can bring in the X's and O's people, particularly on offense, this could be interesting.

And for those about to say "but Mike London failed at UVA" ..... yes. But ask yourself what caused VT to fall. I would suggest it was Mike London severing the pipeline between Norfolk and Blacksburg. The Hokies haven't been the same since. And Mike London didn't exactly have a stellar staff beyond himself.

YES. If VT had a "Hall of Villains", Mike London would be in it.

I disagree actually. Many of VT's shortcomings in football in recent years have less to do with a guy like Mike London, but a confluence of other factors:

- Beamer's age was getting used against far more after 2010. I don't know if London did it, but I know other coaches in the ACC did. London's biggest recruiting wins in the 757 were based on getting in with one of the 7-on-7 teams that operated in a shady manner, to say the least. After a few of those kids ended up at UVA, that pipeline dried up pretty quickly.

- In addition, the 757 landscape got even more competitive once ODU resurrected their program in 2009. A lot of the 2 & 3 star guys VT might have developed from the 757 in the past have yet another option and it's right in their backyard.

- During the aughts, VT feasted on a weak Coastal division. Programs either suffered from lack of resources (i.e. Duke) or poor hires (i.e. Miami). As investment increased post-2010 when ACC folks finally realized football was going to be the gravy train, the Coastal got a lot more competitive.

- At the same time, former AD Jim Weaver was reluctant to join the facilities arms race and I don't think he understood how much it was going to mean in the modern era of college football. Weaver always left the athletic department in the black, but the amount of catching up to do we've had to undertake under Whit Babcock is probably a lot more than many realize.

- Under Fuente, success was pretty immediate with the upperclassmen Beamer left. After Year 1, we've dealt with a lot of attrition for various reasons. We fielded a very young team this year, which I think contributes a lot to this year's struggles. We only had 6 seniors on the entire roster! As the numbers start to balance back out, I think VT is well positioned for the future.
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(12-07-2018 12:02 PM)H.U.S.T.L.E. Wrote:  
(12-07-2018 11:41 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(12-07-2018 11:03 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  This is a Mike London kind of hire. Psychotic recruiter. History at GT. He was the guy responsible for signing the best recruiting class in GT history. He did good things under O'Leary. He recruited so well Tuscaloosa immediately stole him. If he can bring in the X's and O's people, particularly on offense, this could be interesting.

And for those about to say "but Mike London failed at UVA" ..... yes. But ask yourself what caused VT to fall. I would suggest it was Mike London severing the pipeline between Norfolk and Blacksburg. The Hokies haven't been the same since. And Mike London didn't exactly have a stellar staff beyond himself.

YES. If VT had a "Hall of Villains", Mike London would be in it.

I disagree actually. Many of VT's shortcomings in football in recent years have less to do with a guy like Mike London, but a confluence of other factors:

- Beamer's age was getting used against far more after 2010. I don't know if London did it, but I know other coaches in the ACC did. London's biggest recruiting wins in the 757 were based on getting in with one of the 7-on-7 teams that operated in a shady manner, to say the least. After a few of those kids ended up at UVA, that pipeline dried up pretty quickly.

- In addition, the 757 landscape got even more competitive once ODU resurrected their program in 2009. A lot of the 2 & 3 star guys VT might have developed from the 757 in the past have yet another option and it's right in their backyard.

- During the aughts, VT feasted on a weak Coastal division. Programs either suffered from lack of resources (i.e. Duke) or poor hires (i.e. Miami). As investment increased post-2010 when ACC folks finally realized football was going to be the gravy train, the Coastal got a lot more competitive.

- At the same time, former AD Jim Weaver was reluctant to join the facilities arms race and I don't think he understood how much it was going to mean in the modern era of college football. Weaver always left the athletic department in the black, but the amount of catching up to do we've had to undertake under Whit Babcock is probably a lot more than many realize.

- Under Fuente, success was pretty immediate with the upperclassmen Beamer left. After Year 1, we've dealt with a lot of attrition for various reasons. We fielded a very young team this year, which I think contributes a lot to this year's struggles. We only had 6 seniors on the entire roster! As the numbers start to balance back out, I think VT is well positioned for the future.

I totally agree on the youth thing - there's young, and then there's only 6 seniors. Lots of guys left early for the NFL when they really shouldn't have. Some just left, and some had to be kicked out.

As for Mike London, I heard he definitely used negative recruiting tactics against Beamer - to the point that some kids who didn't want to go to UVA no longer wanted to go to VT either (which ultimately hurts the entire ACC). London seemed to employ the "rule or ruin" philosophy when it came to the 757 - which is why I called him a villain.
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I didn't see this posted any where on the ACC board. It's official Geoff Collins is GT's new head coach.

https://www.wsbtv.com/sports/georgia-tec...szUNSVwYsM
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This allows Al Golden's rightful return to his nesting place in the Liberty Bell.

Side note, the only coach I've ever seen wearing an Oxford and a tie in 15 degree weather is Al Golden.
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(12-07-2018 11:59 PM)esayem Wrote:  This allows Al Golden's rightful return to his nesting place in the Liberty Bell.

Side note, the only coach I've ever seen wearing an Oxford and a tie in 15 degree weather is Al Golden.

lol
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I like the hire of Geoff Collins who is GOL guy or from that tree, has been at Bama, Miss State, and Florida... Is a Defensive guy and is committed to running a NFL Offense and Defense.... He has a 7 year contract

I think this is a Homerun.... I am hearing the only reason that Ken W was getting support is becuase of former player and Big money $$$$ donor Mr. Dewberry wanted Ken.... The fact that Whisenhunt isn’t getting the job should tell us the direction Georgia Tech is going. #TogetherWeSwarm

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