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RE: Bowl Attendance Tracking Thread ....
Updated for Hawaii and Dollar General bowls.
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(12-22-2018 10:43 PM)TexanMark Wrote: Mobile Bowl... about 15K I figure
Hawaii Bowl with Hawaii in it...maybe 10-13K pretty sad
??? 10-13k....Wow. Did you not see it on espn? That was a good crowd.
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(12-23-2018 04:05 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote: (12-22-2018 10:43 PM)TexanMark Wrote: Mobile Bowl... about 15K I figure
Hawaii Bowl with Hawaii in it...maybe 10-13K pretty sad
Hawaii Bowl:
Attendance:...30,911
Turnstile........27,837
Don’t know where you got 10-13K.
It’s true the crowd was late getting into their seats but that’s typical. Hawaii fans love their tailgating.
Also keep in mind the venue seats 50,000, so even with a good turnout it’s not going to look crowded.
My eyes tell me no way that stadium was over 55% full (as suggested by your turnstile count). Granted I was observing in the first quarter.
I went back and checked a few more crowd shots. The upper deck looked empty. The lower deck did fill in later as you suggested.... I'd probably revise it to 20K. Cheers
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12-23-2018 08:46 AM |
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RE: Bowl Attendance Tracking Thread ....
(12-23-2018 08:46 AM)TexanMark Wrote: (12-23-2018 04:05 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote: (12-22-2018 10:43 PM)TexanMark Wrote: Mobile Bowl... about 15K I figure
Hawaii Bowl with Hawaii in it...maybe 10-13K pretty sad
Hawaii Bowl:
Attendance:...30,911
Turnstile........27,837
Don’t know where you got 10-13K.
It’s true the crowd was late getting into their seats but that’s typical. Hawaii fans love their tailgating.
Also keep in mind the venue seats 50,000, so even with a good turnout it’s not going to look crowded.
My eyes tell me no way that stadium was over 55% full (as suggested by your turnstile count). Granted I was observing in the first quarter.
I went back and checked a few more crowd shots. The upper deck looked empty. The lower deck did fill in later as you suggested.... I'd probably revise it to 20K. Cheers
I agree, the official attendance figures of over 30k each are way above what I would have guessed via my eyeballs for the Hawaii and DG bowls.
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Some stadiums are hard to observe...I know when I'm in the Carrier Dome and run off for a pit stop in game there are literally over 1000 folks milling around the concourse for the 200/300 level as it allows you to watch the action and stand.
Traditional designed stadiums don't allow that and feed you through tunnels under the stands. I tend to think both Mobile and Aloha are more old school.
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12-23-2018 09:18 AM |
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(12-23-2018 09:18 AM)TexanMark Wrote: Some stadiums are hard to observe...I know when I'm in the Carrier Dome and run off for a pit stop in game there are literally over 1000 folks milling around the concourse for the 200/300 level as it allows you to watch the action and stand.
Traditional designed stadiums don't allow that and feed you through tunnels under the stands. I tend to think both Mobile and Aloha are more old school.
Yes, both of those stadiums date from before 1975. And also the ratio of attendance to the size of the stadium matters. 30k in a 50k seat stadium looks more impressive than 30k in a 80k seat stadium.
E.g., you remember the 2011 Syracuse vs Tulane game in the Superdome. Officially, there were about 6,000 in attendance, but i could have sworn the real number was in the hundreds.
Nevertheless, the DG stadium is small, its capacity is about 34,000. Officially, the DG bowl drew 31,000, a near sellout. I never saw anything anywhere near a near-sellout in the stands. The stands looked mostly empty.
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12-23-2018 09:31 AM |
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RE: Bowl Attendance Tracking Thread ....
(12-23-2018 08:46 AM)TexanMark Wrote: (12-23-2018 04:05 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote: (12-22-2018 10:43 PM)TexanMark Wrote: Mobile Bowl... about 15K I figure
Hawaii Bowl with Hawaii in it...maybe 10-13K pretty sad
Hawaii Bowl:
Attendance:...30,911
Turnstile........27,837
Don’t know where you got 10-13K.
It’s true the crowd was late getting into their seats but that’s typical. Hawaii fans love their tailgating.
Also keep in mind the venue seats 50,000, so even with a good turnout it’s not going to look crowded.
My eyes tell me no way that stadium was over 55% full (as suggested by your turnstile count). Granted I was observing in the first quarter.
I went back and checked a few more crowd shots. The upper deck looked empty. The lower deck did fill in later as you suggested.... I'd probably revise it to 20K. Cheers
The upper deck was shut down, no tickets were sold for that part of the stadium. Only the lower bowl which seats roughly 35,000 was opened for the game. Given that some attendees are always out of their seats, a turnstile count of 28,000 would result in the lower bowl being about three-quarters occupied. Which it was at the height of the game.
Also keep in mind that turnstile counts include everyone who comes through the stadium gates. That’s not just the fans in the stands. It’s everyone on the field too, and everyone up in the pressbox, and everyone staffing the concessions, and the ushers, security guards, etc. etc.
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RE: Bowl Attendance Tracking Thread ....
quick lane Attendance 27,228.
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12-27-2018 09:06 AM |
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RE: Bowl Attendance Tracking Thread ....
(12-27-2018 09:06 AM)GTFletch Wrote: quick lane Attendance 27,228.
Thanks.
Also updated for Cheez-It and the aborted SERVPRO Bowl.
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RE: Bowl Attendance Tracking Thread ....
(12-23-2018 09:31 AM)quo vadis Wrote: (12-23-2018 09:18 AM)TexanMark Wrote: Some stadiums are hard to observe...I know when I'm in the Carrier Dome and run off for a pit stop in game there are literally over 1000 folks milling around the concourse for the 200/300 level as it allows you to watch the action and stand.
Traditional designed stadiums don't allow that and feed you through tunnels under the stands. I tend to think both Mobile and Aloha are more old school.
Yes, both of those stadiums date from before 1975. And also the ratio of attendance to the size of the stadium matters. 30k in a 50k seat stadium looks more impressive than 30k in a 80k seat stadium.
E.g., you remember the 2011 Syracuse vs Tulane game in the Superdome. Officially, there were about 6,000 in attendance, but i could have sworn the real number was in the hundreds.
Nevertheless, the DG stadium is small, its capacity is about 34,000. Officially, the DG bowl drew 31,000, a near sellout. I never saw anything anywhere near a near-sellout in the stands. The stands looked mostly empty.
I think it was covered there was just always 30,000 people in the bathroom and buying hot dogs.
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RE: Bowl Attendance Tracking Thread ....
Seemed like about 20K in the stands at the peak. One of the poorer attended Pinstripe Bowls
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Texas Bowl feels like 40k easily are there.
Fun game with lots of offense do far
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RE: Bowl Attendance Tracking Thread ....
updated for texas, independence, and pinstripe bowls.
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12-28-2018 11:17 AM |
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RE: Bowl Attendance Tracking Thread ....
Updated for music city, alamo, and camping world bowls.
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51,000 in Houston for Baylor and Vanderbilt???
I didn't watch much of the game, so I couldn't figure a crowd breakdown. When I heard the matchup of 6-6 teams from two private schools, I thought the Houston bowl would take a bath this year. I knew there would be plenty of Baylor fans due to proximity, but I didn't expect a matchup with Vanderbilt to do well at the gate.
For a game between two private schools with 6-6 records, well done, Houston. It could have been much worse.
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41K+ announced for Camping World Bowl. It was pretty legit (not too many empty seats) I heard the lower 2 levels had 41K seats. Anyways Cuse repped well...excited fanbase. At least 20-23K Cuse fans. They wrapped around both end zones and even had a few small pockets on the WVU sideline. Very few local neutral fans from what I could see...probably the price of the tickets kept the casual fans away. I saw one UCF fan.
The WVU band was twice the size of Cuse's...however, Cuse played a ton more than they did in game.
A really pretty WVU coed sitting in our section...think she was there with a Cuse boyfriend. She seemed to enjoy herself nonetheless...nobody razzed her from what I could tell.
Cuse should make many preseason Top 25 lists next year...we are back!!!
Edit:. Updated Cuse fan numbers downward after reevaluating. There were probably 37-38k actual in there. Cuse had a good 65% of the crowd.
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12-29-2018 01:53 PM |
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RE: Bowl Attendance Tracking Thread ....
Updated for playoffs, peach, belk, and arizona bowls.
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12-30-2018 07:36 AM |
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RE: Bowl Attendance Tracking Thread ....
Updated for 12/31 bowls
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RE: Bowl Attendance Tracking Thread ....
(01-01-2019 06:03 PM)quo vadis Wrote: Updated for 12/31 bowls
Did the Potato Bowl get erased?
I wish it didn't exist but...
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(01-01-2019 11:25 PM)MWC Tex Wrote: (01-01-2019 06:03 PM)quo vadis Wrote: Updated for 12/31 bowls
Did the Potato Bowl get erased?
I wish it didn't exist but...
Updated for January 1st bowls, and the Potato Bowl.
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