(12-21-2018 09:30 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  It was the Big 10 and Pac 12 that wanted a playoff. Now they aren't happy with the results.

They should sponsor their own National Championship game.

(12-22-2018 04:55 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(12-22-2018 04:04 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(12-22-2018 03:49 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  There is absolutely no reason for The SEC or ACC to support expanding the playoffs. Of the 20 spots that have been awarded since the start of the CFP era, The SEC and ACC have accounted for 11 of the 20 spots. Simply don’t see any reason to give the other conferences more access.

Um, yes there IS a reason for the ACC to support it... they want to hold a conference championship game without divisions. The ACC divisions stink, but there's no way they go North/South (the only thing which might work). Make it a package deal: 8 playoff teams, P5 auto-bids, AND CCG without divisions... ACC and B1G co-sponsor it... just need one more P5 to vote for it (hello Big XII). GIT 'ER DONE!

Cardinal Jim, your holiness, your stats point to the likelihood of the ACC getting TWO teams in an 8 team playoff! Well yes, that would require an upset, but nevertheless it doesn’t hurt the ACC.

Hokie, you’re the only Gobbler fan I “know” that is okay with Tech being in a hypothetical North Division (although I am pretty sure you’d prefer to get rid of divisions). Tech will see Wake, State, Clemson, and FSU much more without divisions; I think those are more compelling games for the Gobblers than the current Coastal, you may agree?

We won’t blame the Big Ten for their shortsightedness, after all, they passed on Notre Dame.

Yes, I MUCH prefer getting rid of divisions!
Yes, I'd love to see VT play Wake, State, Clemson and FSU more (those are some of the Hokies most-played opponents, pre-Big East)

(12-22-2018 06:12 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(12-22-2018 03:21 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-22-2018 03:12 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(12-22-2018 03:11 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Nothing has changed that dictates changing the playoff format except The Big Ten repeatedly getting left out. Why should The SEC and ACC vote to increase the number of teams in the playoffs?

The ACC asked to do away with divisions and Delaney refused it. Now he wants The ACC to support changing the playoffs to help his conference? No....

ACC can't do anything about it though. If G5, and the Big 12, Big Ten, and Pac 12 are in favor- it's going to happen....

Realistically, if the Big 10 and SEC are in favor, it will happen. G5 is along for the ride. The other 3 could veto, but aren't likely to. With the 4 team playoff, it didn't happen until Slive and Delany sat in a room and then told the rest of FBS how it would work.

How many votes would it take to force a move?

I believe NCAA Management Council has it set up for 3 votes P5, 2 votes G5, 1 vote others for all issues. On football issues where there is autonomy is it 3 P5 to 2 G5 or is it 2 P5 to 1 G5?

If its 3 to 2, the G5 would only need one P5 conference to agree to have a simple majority. 13-12.

If its 2 to 1 the G5 will need two P5 conferences on board to make it happen. 9-6. Otherwise its 7-8 in favor of the G5.

There's the legal requirements and the realistic requirements.
Plus, I think the A5 has legal veto power on just about everything related to football (hence the name "Autonomous" conferences).