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RE: SERVPRO First Responder Bowl: Boise State vs Boston College
(12-27-2018 12:50 PM)JRsec Wrote: (12-27-2018 11:36 AM)quo vadis Wrote: (12-26-2018 04:14 PM)JRsec Wrote: (12-26-2018 03:34 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (12-26-2018 03:31 PM)MWC Tex Wrote: Wow.
Game cancelled. Will go as a no contest.
Sucks for the teams and fans.
Can't remember the last time a bowl game was canceled in play. Huge disappointment for players, fans, everybody like me watching on TV.
Guess there was just no end in sight to the bad weather.
That's because to my knowledge there never has been a cancellation, ever! I know how you feel Quo but you're about to hear how I feel about it.
College football has been played for over 130 years. I've never heard of a report of a fan or player being killed by weather in that entire 130 years and includes an Auburn / Miami game played in the squalls of an actual hurricane in the early 70's, tornadoes, lightening, hail, snow, and extreme heat.
The snowflake alarmist B.S. being foisted upon us is producing nothing but reactionism by the public.
Yes, but two things have changed since the good old days: The legal threat of liability is much greater, with the chances of a multi-million dollar liability claim far greater now than 50 years ago, and also the instant social media outrage machine would incinerate anyone involved - the bowl, the school, the network, everyone - if there was a lightning threat and something bad happened. Fifty years ago there would be a brief statement from some authority figure regretting the loss of life and that would be it, now there would be 100,000 critical tweets within a half-hour. The title sponsor's Facebook page would be inundated with people saying they'd never do business with them again, etc. Reputations of elite figures would be ruined instantly. Whether these changes are good or bad is another issue, but that's the way it is.
Bottom line: There's very little downside to canceling the game, enormous downside if they play and something bad happens. Why risk it?
Quo, I refuse to submit my life to the court of public opinion, and while I don't pretend to know everything, I do know about my circumstances and risks a helluva lot more than a bunch of strangers pontificating on my decisions from afar. Vox populi should never govern anyone's life. Those chiming in have zero skin in my game and are only aggrandizing their own inadequacies by trying to foist their opinions on the rest of the world.
So when companies I am forced to do business with if I'm to watch football (here's looking at you Disney, CBS, FOX, NBC, and the rest) try to sell me their politics while on my time and dime, or foist their social agenda on me when I'm at an event that I've given my money to see, and make decisions that impact thousands because they fear they might lose a nickel because the faceless plugged in masses feel there is a danger, it pisses me off. It pisses me off because prima facia that is rule by fear of legal action, and rule of mob opinion. In either case it means I'm less free because of it.
Now if the players and coaches feel it is not safe to play then those wishes I'll bow to. But don't alter my decisions because of some vague fear of what remotely might happen. If you go down that path you might as well not even get out of bed in the morning.
When I was 10 I bought my first lawnmower. By the age of 16 I bought my first car with money I made mowing yards and working at a sawmill (started at age 12). Sounds dangerous doesn't it. It wasn't really. The jobs I had at the sawmill at age 12 were tasks I could manage so that older and stronger employees were free for more demanding jobs. At 10 before I could purchase my mower from Sears, my father made me change the filters and oil on his mower, change the blade, and remove the carburetor and reassemble it. He made me mow over a can to see what it would do and showed me how far the mower could sling a stick. So when he was convinced that I was responsible enough to manage a mower I got one. Today if a 10 year old was operating a mower the parents would receive a call from family and children's services. Consequently my grandchildren no longer have the responsibilities or rights that I once had. Why? Mostly because of the irresponsible parents of many other children and an overreaching government stepping in to say no. The result is a more infantile society. Quite the opposite of what many today believe, a progressive society doesn't govern itself by the inadequacies and limitations of its weakest members, but rather gears its future for the brightest and most productive. Our government is going backwards!
For those who think I'm being hyperbolic of course I am to a degree. The only way to point out this kind of fallacy in logic is to carry the action through to its ridiculous conclusion. To make life decisions based on fear is as illogical as it gets when those fears are only remote and there is no statistical data to say anyone is in imminent, or even likely, danger. Modern stadia are Faraday cages. I don't fear lightening inside them. A tornado would get more of my attention but I would simply move into the concession area. I've played football in hail storms. It stings the arms a little but everything else is covered in pads.
We have become a reactionary society and that doesn't bode well long term. Why? We are being preconditioned to respond to what those in authority suggest we should do and to condemn those who act on their own initiative. I'm responsible for me. Not the government, not my neighbor, and not some 18 year old tweeting on their cell phone from their mommy's house. I'll obey the law, but when the crisis strikes I'm ultimately on my own. If a natural event wipes out my home I expect my insurance company to cover most of the loss. That's what I pay them to do. I don't need FEMA prohibiting me from combing through the wreckage of my home to retrieve any important documents, photos, or possessions that might help salvage my loss. Until I can return I only expect my local law enforcement, or perhaps the national guard patrolling to prevent looting until I show my proof of identity and ownership of the wrecked residence.
The more government becomes a parent and the more infant like the public becomes the less free we are. Government is there to maintain our rights, enforce our borders, maintain civil order, and provide for the common defense. It is not my health care provider. That's my responsibility. It's not my economic adviser, that's my responsibility. It's not there to teach my children values, that's my responsibility. It's not there to tell me how I should believe in my faith life, that's my responsibility. But when enough people don't accept their responsibility (as is the current prevailing thought of many of the younger people in this country) it gives government a vacuum to fill but a vacuum that sucks the freedom away from all.
The law is an arm of the government. Civil actions are part of law. When fear of a potential event the likelihood of which has not been determined impinges my freedom because of the fears of the irresponsible and because of the liability fears of companies directly or tangentially related to my activity, my right to choose has been denied.
Case in point. A woman who sat near us at the baseball games for 30 years got plunked on the noggin by a foul ball. She was texting and not watching the game. We were watching the game and if the bimbo seated next to her had not gotten in my way I would have spared her the shock of having baseball come to her while she wasn't mentally dialed into the game. Our seats were on the first base line. We chose those seats because they were beyond the home plate area backstop and fence. I had an unobstructed view of the field. She complained about the danger and the University's knee jerk reaction was to extend the fence all the way to the foul pole. 30 years of baseball enjoyment was gone because one idiot, who was not there to watch the game, was hit by a soft fly ball that if she had been watching she could have side stepped easily. Why should my right to enjoy a baseball game be impinged by an individual who wanted to chat via phone with her buddies because her husband wanted to watch the game? He probably could have saved her the bump had he not gone to the Men's room. The way the stadium was designed most line drives could not reach the stands until well into the outfield. Pop flies are not a real health risk to aware individuals. So my rights have been curtailed by the personal choices and irresponsibility of others. That's worth fighting a revolution over. And it is why I don't take the histrionic reactions of others wanting to impinge my rights lightly!
I will have to give you some rep for that JR. We may have some differences of opinion, but I definitely agree with you on this. The above is why I vote for conservatives & why I voted for President Trump.
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