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RE: Looks like the WAC adding Dixie St throws a wrench into any split of the MW or CUSA.
(01-23-2019 06:07 PM)DavidSt Wrote: West Texas A&M 20,000 seat off campus stadium. Building a brand new on campus stadium. Was a former 1A or FBS independent in football with the rest of the sports in MVC. Was a former conference mates with New Mexico State.
UTPB plays close to a 20,000 seat stadium. Needs to grow student body, but a hotbed for high school football players.
Texas A&M-Kingsville plays in a 15,000 seat stadium.
Midwestern State plays in a 14,000 seat stadium.
Texas A&M-Commerce plays in a 13,500 seat stadium.
McNeese State 17,410 seats
Lamar 16,000 seats
SFAU 14,575 seats
Sam Houston State 12,593 seats.
Central Oklahoma 10,000 seats.
Colorado Mesa 8000 seats.
Dixie State 10,000 seats, but plans to go 15,000 +
Azusa Pacific 10,000 seats, but the stadium is home for Citrus College in Glendora. They are not D1 ready yet unless they build their own on-campus stadium.
Those schools in less than 10 years could be FBS ready while others are ready now. All they need are sugar daddies who will donate money to build to be D1 ready.
West Texas A&M (current) and UTPB stadiums are owned by the local school districts and are in the same situation as Azusa Pacific in having little or no control over stadium modifications. West Texas A&M new stadium will be about 10,000.
Central Oklahoma has a 10,000 seat stadium; good for them. They still do not qualify for D1 because they do not have enough sports. That big 10,000 seat stadium was filled to only 44% of capacity on average. Arkansas Tech had better attendance than UCO by a nice margin and we were terrible this year. Moving to D1 does not guarantee a significant attendance boost; football attendance at central arkansas increased by maybe 1,000 over their D2 days.
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01-24-2019 11:45 AM |
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RE: Looks like the WAC adding Dixie St throws a wrench into any split of the MW or CUSA.
(01-24-2019 12:05 AM)billings Wrote: (01-23-2019 05:41 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote: If the G6 would have known they were only going to need 10 teams to host a conference title then Tulsa and Tulane stay in C-USA and Utah St and SJSU stay in the WAC:
C-USA: UTEP, Rice, UAB, USM, Marshall, Tulane, Tulsa, UNT, MTSU, UTSA
SBC: FAU, FIU, Troy, USA, WKU, ULL, ULM, Ark St, GA St, Charlotte (non-FB UALR)
WAC: Idaho, SJSU, Utah St, NMSU, Texas St, LA Tech (non-FB Denver, Seattle, UTA)
The WAC still needs at least 2 more FB programs. If they could lure away Ark St and ULL they'd be set.
ODU, App St, Georgia Southern, and Coastal Carolina likely are all still FCS unless SBC schools defect to the WAC.
Utah State is not leaving the MWC for that mess. geez
If you'd bother to read the thread you'd realize that this was a hypothetical HAD THE MWC NOT TAKEN UTAH ST and SJSU.
I get beyond infuriated when people jump on here, slam a post, and don't even bother to read to understand the context.
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01-24-2019 05:55 PM |
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Fighting Muskie
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RE: Looks like the WAC adding Dixie St throws a wrench into any split of the MW or CUSA.
(01-23-2019 06:07 PM)DavidSt Wrote: (01-23-2019 04:46 PM)chrisattsu Wrote: (01-22-2019 09:16 PM)DavidSt Wrote: Tarleton State wants D1 as well. With th Lone Star Conference at 20 with UTT joining 2019/20 season, and UTD is doing a feasibility study to go D2. You got to wonder if other LSC Texas schools been contacted by the WAC to? 20 to 21 teams would be too many mouths too feed. Plus, how many D3 Texas schools want to join D2 and LSC as well like Sul Ross State and U. of Dallas?
Plus, Dixie State and several LSC schools could jump to be FBS in a shorter time since they could expand. Central Oklahoma could be on this list.
All it needs to be done is too play musical chairs. Several Big Sky schools could go FBS, and some of the Southland as well.
20+ member is too big for the Lone Star. The league has already announced that it will be three divisions. Which seems problematic especially since not everyone sponsors the same sports (some offer football, Texas Woman's doesnt offer mens sports).
For those of you looking at the map for potential WAC members. Each has a student population greater that 10,000, recent facility improvements, and budgets currently in the $9m range.
Tarleton (expressed D1 interest) - Top left corner of GREEN section
West Texas A&M - Top right Yellow section
Angelo State (previous D1 study) - Bottom right Yellow section
Texas A&M Commerce - Bottom BLUE section
FBS is a bit of a push for the the Lone Star Conference schools. The stadiums, student population, and funding are not there. FCS is doable
West Texas A&M 20,000 seat off campus stadium. Building a brand new on campus stadium. Was a former 1A or FBS independent in football with the rest of the sports in MVC. Was a former conference mates with New Mexico State.
UTPB plays close to a 20,000 seat stadium. Needs to grow student body, but a hotbed for high school football players.
Texas A&M-Kingsville plays in a 15,000 seat stadium.
Midwestern State plays in a 14,000 seat stadium.
Texas A&M-Commerce plays in a 13,500 seat stadium.
McNeese State 17,410 seats
Lamar 16,000 seats
SFAU 14,575 seats
Sam Houston State 12,593 seats.
Central Oklahoma 10,000 seats.
Colorado Mesa 8000 seats.
Dixie State 10,000 seats, but plans to go 15,000 +
Azusa Pacific 10,000 seats, but the stadium is home for Citrus College in Glendora. They are not D1 ready yet unless they build their own on-campus stadium.
Those schools in less than 10 years could be FBS ready while others are ready now. All they need are sugar daddies who will donate money to build to be D1 ready.
These facilities definitely have the capacity for FCS football. The question is would the administration be willing to invest in more scholarships and larger travel budgets to take their programs to the next level.
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01-24-2019 05:58 PM |
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